NYP reports Westland teaching trans lessons, including breast binding

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Anonymous wrote:I have to wonder if some of these school leaders are TRYING to get MCPS vilified.

If not, we have some truly dumb or blinded by ideology people in our school buildings.

And I say this as a diehard liberal, with a rainbow flag bumper sticker, who believed MCPS was right in the Supreme Court case.

Doesn’t anyone train these school leaders to think about how their slides or letter will look on the front page of the Washington Post? Or the New York Post for that matter?

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Anonymous wrote:I think the OP really illustrates the true agenda of right-wing bigots.

There was no breast binding lesson at Westland.

The lesson that did exist was available to opt out.

A year ago, bigots were telling us that they don't care what other kids are taught, they just want the ability to opt out for their own kids.

Now they are revealing their true face - it's not enough to offer an opt out. They want trans and gender nonconforming folks erased from the curriculum, and preferably from society as a whole.

Those, like yourself, who keep saying breast binding was not in the lesson are lying.

There was a video in question from nonbinary influencer Laurenzo, that did include "Tips on binding." Now since kids had a choice of WHICH video to watch during that portion of the lesson, maybe not every kid saw that video. But to say that breast binding was not part of the lesson is a lie.

Tip 7, in this video, which was included in the Westland lesson is all about how to bind your chest.

I can’t believe anyone thinks that video belongs in a school setting.

It absolutely was not appropriate for school. Even if you WANT to instruct on the concepts of trans ideology or nonbinary identities, MCPS should be using ACADEMIC, vetted resources. Not just grabbing some random influencer's garbage from YouTube and presenting it as educational material.

Yes, or even if you use that influencer's videos, they have ones that are like "How to be Respectful of a Non-Binary Person." That's fine, IMO. But including the "Tips on BEING Non-Binary" video is such a bone-headed decision for someone in a public school to make in 2025.

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This non-sence does not belong in school.

Perhaps your school should have taught you how to spell nonsense, Vlad.

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Anonymous wrote:Did you go through the slideshow linked in the news story? It’s mostly a lesson about how to come out and how to be nonbinary versus how to be an ally. One of the slides has links to 10 different videos and asks students to watch 1. Almost all of the videos are nonbinary people who were assigned female at birth. There is a real social contagion to this and I think in a few years people will be ashamed when they look back at what kids were exposed to.

Also, as a teacher there is no way you could get through these slides in one advisory period. Gender is already covered in health classes. Kids are SO over these lessons shoved in their face all the time

Nonbinary is a social construct

Gender is, you mean.

Nonbinary simply means something other than X or Y.

No. Gender, for a long time, was synonymous with sex.

There's now an active movement in the LGBTQ community to ARGUE that gender is a social construct and that it is completely divorced from biological sex.

However, not everyone is on board with this theory and many Americans feel differently and are pushing back, which is why lessons like this one at Westland, which assumes the more nascent and controversial viewpoint on gender/sex gets backlash and pushback once it makes the news.

Only in your puny little brain. Look, I understand that cognitive dissonance is hard, but the two terms were never synonymous or interchangeable.

Please shut up and read a dictionary: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/gender

used to refer to the condition of being physically male, female, or intersex (= having a body that has both male and female characteristics):
Does this test show the gender of the baby?
Forensic scientists can tell the gender of the victim from the skeleton.
Synonym
sex (MALE/FEMALE)
Note:
Some people prefer to use the word "sex" when talking about the physical condition of being male, female, or intersex, and prefer to use the word "gender" only when talking about someone's identity and the group they belong to in society.

Your interpretation of gender as being distinct from sex is not the mainstream norm now nor has it been in the past. It is an emerging way SOME PEOPLE (like yourself) choose to interpret gender as distinct from sex. Just because you believe in it doesn't mean everyone else does.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it important for tweens and teens to have publicly visible breast lumps?

I'd put it the other way. Why should girls whose bodies are still developing be sent a message that maybe something needs to be changed with their body? At 11-12 some girls have breasts and some barely do. It's all in flux and IMO not the time to be pushed a message that it's possible the sex you were assigned at birth might not be the right one. Have these info sessions in high school if you must do them.

Once again, there were no binding lessons, and the only message about binding was "probably don't do it."

If this lesson upsets you, opt out. This constant goalpost moving is getting tiring. You have the option to remove your child from the classroom if you don't like the lesson. Exercise it.

Not appropiate regardless.

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I looked at the slides and I generally consider myself a liberal but I don’t think this is appropriate for school. Of course we believe in treating everyone with respect. But teaching this pseudoscience that male brains can be trapped in female bodies and vice versa is as bad as teaching creationism. It’s propaganda pretending to be science.

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Anonymous wrote:I looked at the slides and I generally consider myself a liberal but I don’t think this is appropriate for school. Of course we believe in treating everyone with respect. But teaching this pseudoscience that male brains can be trapped in female bodies and vice versa is as bad as teaching creationism. It’s propaganda pretending to be science.

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