Quince Orchard high school - recent experiences

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To the QO basher: are you worried you won't get into Sidwell, is that why you are upset? Or are you worried about the poors in the vicinity that you mistakenly were not aware of when you purchased your home?

Get off your computer, go to the gym (you must be SAHM) then come home and figure out how to move to a W school pronto on your budget.

Once again, I find it incredible.

The MCPS forum is happy to bash MCPS all day long, until someone points out that private schools are better.

Then they defend MCPS to the bitter end.

Go enjoy giving your kid a mediocre education at a 3 star high school that can’t even get more than 69% of the Asian kids proficient in math.

[Anonymous]

In addition to having more ESOL students, more students with learning disabilities, and more students from low income households, QO is one of only two high schools in MoCo that house a special program for autistic students. Public schools can’t counsel out students who are struggling or have behavioral problems. The bar for even temporarily suspending students who fail to comply with MCPS’s code of conduct has been raised substantially over the years. It’s absurd to compare math proficiency overall between Sidwell’s students and QO’s students.

However, if you compared the math proficiency of Sidwell’s valedictorians with QO’s valedictorians, I don’t think you’d see an enormous gap.

[Anonymous]

[img]

Anonymous wrote:In addition to having more ESOL students, more students with learning disabilities, and more students from low income households, QO is one of only two high schools in MoCo that house a special program for autistic students. Public schools can’t counsel out students who are struggling or have behavioral problems. The bar for even temporarily suspending students who fail to comply with MCPS’s code of conduct has been raised substantially over the years. It’s absurd to compare math proficiency overall between Sidwell’s students and QO’s students.

However, if you compared the math proficiency of Sidwell’s valedictorians with QO’s valedictorians, I don’t think you’d see an enormous gap.

It might be absurd, but it’s what the poster I’m responding to did.

They said:

“The breath of classes offered at QO is far ahead of privates unless of course you want to study Latin.”

They also said their kid coming from private school was 1-2 years behind in math at QO, and that he got a “subpar STEM education” at his private school.

[Anonymous]

You took my words out of context . I
Am too Busy to give a proper response
If you are not rich enough to go private then move to a sh*t box tear down in bethesda and stop bashing your neighborhood

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You took my words out of context . I
Am too Busy to give a proper response
If you are not rich enough to go private then move to a sh*t box tear down in bethesda and stop bashing your neighborhood

Ah, I see. So we’re all just supposed to accept mediocrity. If we criticize anything, then we’re just bashing our neighborhoods.

[Anonymous]

So you don't want to get involved? Your arguments make no sense. MOVE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So you don't want to get involved? Your arguments make no sense. MOVE.

What arguments don’t make sense? Be specific.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To the QO basher: are you worried you won't get into Sidwell, is that why you are upset? Or are you worried about the poors in the vicinity that you mistakenly were not aware of when you purchased your home?

Get off your computer, go to the gym (you must be SAHM) then come home and figure out how to move to a W school pronto on your budget.

Once again, I find it incredible.

The MCPS forum is happy to bash MCPS all day long, until someone points out that private schools are better.

Then they defend MCPS to the bitter end.

Go enjoy giving your kid a mediocre education at a 3 star high school that can’t even get more than 69% of the Asian kids proficient in math.

OMG. Once again, you are comparing a tiny wealthy private school to a large diverse public school that has to serve all kinds of students: those with SN, ESOL, mental health issues, while some place like Sidwell gets to pick and choose whom they educate.

Apples to oranges comparison. Stop already. You're embarrassing yourself.

-signed an MCPS basher

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IIf you leave these schools for private, you are part of the problem.
Be the change!

Sending my kid to a crappy school doesn’t make it better.

Sorry — my kid’s education is too important to me.

I put my son in private fyi, and he got a subpar STEM education. The kids who stayed the course at QO and the feeder MS did much better.

Name the school or I don’t believe you. This is a tired stereotype.

I will not but it is the truth. My son freaked out when he returned to QO and his previous classmates were 1 to 2 years ahead in Math. The breath of classes offered at QO is far ahead of privates unless of course you want to study Latin. DS did get 100% on the ACT English.

Uh huh. Sure.

Let’s look at math at QO:

Algebra Courses
Algebra 1
Algebra 2
Honors Algebra 2
2 year Algebra 2

Geometry Courses
Geometry
Honors Geometry

Statistics Courses
Honors Statistics
AP Statistics

Precalculus & Calculus Courses
Honors Calculus with Applications
Precalculus
AP Precalculus
AP Calculus AB
AP Calculus BC

Additional Courses
Financial Mathematics
Related Math
Statistics and Math Modeling

Now let’s look at Sidwell:

Geometry with integrated algebra
Geometry
Math I (accelerated)

Algebra 2
Pre calculus
Accelerated combined Algebra 2 and pre calculus

AP Stats
AB calc
BC calc

Math IV (accelerated AP BC calc)

Linear Algebra

I could go through and do a comparison of the hard sciences. But I’m sure QOHS’s stellar 61% of white kids and 69% of Asian kids who are proficient in math speaks for itself. Obviously QO is a math powerhouse that none of the private schools can touch.

dp.. You are comparing a wealthier private with a diverse public that needs to meet the needs of ESOL students. Not exactly a fair comparison.

Even so, a large public has the economies of scale to offer various courses. Smaller privates can't do that, especially the non top tier privates.

I never argued that small, mediocre private schools are better.

I argued the good private schools are better.

As for the number of courses:

QO doesn’t offer any more courses than the vast majority of private schools.

Second, why does the number of courses mean anything when their proficiency scores are so awful? You could offer 200 math courses, but if you can’t produce proficient students, who cares?

"Good private schools" are the rich ones, so of course they will be "better". Very obtuse.

Based on the list, I see that QO does indeed offer more differentiation in math classes than privates. I count 20 math courses at QO and like 11 at Sidwell, per your list. That is almost double.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To the QO basher: are you worried you won't get into Sidwell, is that why you are upset? Or are you worried about the poors in the vicinity that you mistakenly were not aware of when you purchased your home?

Get off your computer, go to the gym (you must be SAHM) then come home and figure out how to move to a W school pronto on your budget.

Once again, I find it incredible.

The MCPS forum is happy to bash MCPS all day long, until someone points out that private schools are better.

Then they defend MCPS to the bitter end.

Go enjoy giving your kid a mediocre education at a 3 star high school that can’t even get more than 69% of the Asian kids proficient in math.

OMG. Once again, you are comparing a tiny wealthy private school to a large diverse public school that has to serve all kinds of students: those with SN, ESOL, mental health issues, while some place like Sidwell gets to pick and choose whom they educate.

Apples to oranges comparison. Stop already. You're embarrassing yourself.

-signed an MCPS basher

Once again, I am responding to someone who said QOHS offers many more courses than private schools and that her son received a subpar STEM education at his private school.

So rather than harping on me, you might want to address that person.

[Anonymous]

One word: Football.

I have 2 kids at RM even though our home is zoned for the Rockville cluster, we're more grateful to be in Richard Montgomery than what sounds like a warzone of a school Rockville.

For this scenario if your kid is zoned for QO and doesn't even care about football, take them to neighboring clusters (Wootton, Northwest, etc.), or if you want to take the other route and go to a private school instead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IIf you leave these schools for private, you are part of the problem.
Be the change!

Sending my kid to a crappy school doesn’t make it better.

Sorry — my kid’s education is too important to me.

I put my son in private fyi, and he got a subpar STEM education. The kids who stayed the course at QO and the feeder MS did much better.

Name the school or I don’t believe you. This is a tired stereotype.

I will not but it is the truth. My son freaked out when he returned to QO and his previous classmates were 1 to 2 years ahead in Math. The breath of classes offered at QO is far ahead of privates unless of course you want to study Latin. DS did get 100% on the ACT English.

Uh huh. Sure.

Let’s look at math at QO:

Algebra Courses
Algebra 1
Algebra 2
Honors Algebra 2
2 year Algebra 2

Geometry Courses
Geometry
Honors Geometry

Statistics Courses
Honors Statistics
AP Statistics

Precalculus & Calculus Courses
Honors Calculus with Applications
Precalculus
AP Precalculus
AP Calculus AB
AP Calculus BC

Additional Courses
Financial Mathematics
Related Math
Statistics and Math Modeling

Now let’s look at Sidwell:

Geometry with integrated algebra
Geometry
Math I (accelerated)

Algebra 2
Pre calculus
Accelerated combined Algebra 2 and pre calculus

AP Stats
AB calc
BC calc

Math IV (accelerated AP BC calc)

Linear Algebra

I could go through and do a comparison of the hard sciences. But I’m sure QOHS’s stellar 61% of white kids and 69% of Asian kids who are proficient in math speaks for itself. Obviously QO is a math powerhouse that none of the private schools can touch.

dp.. You are comparing a wealthier private with a diverse public that needs to meet the needs of ESOL students. Not exactly a fair comparison.

Even so, a large public has the economies of scale to offer various courses. Smaller privates can't do that, especially the non top tier privates.

I never argued that small, mediocre private schools are better.

I argued the good private schools are better.

As for the number of courses:

QO doesn’t offer any more courses than the vast majority of private schools.

Second, why does the number of courses mean anything when their proficiency scores are so awful? You could offer 200 math courses, but if you can’t produce proficient students, who cares?

"Good private schools" are the rich ones, so of course they will be "better". Very obtuse.

Based on the list, I see that QO does indeed offer more differentiation in math classes than privates. I count 20 math courses at QO and like 11 at Sidwell, per your list. That is almost double.

That doesn’t translate into more differentiation. It’s purely how they’re dividing out the classes.

Sidwell offers linear algebra, while QO does not. In fact, every private school I’ve looked at offers linear algebra.

[Anonymous]

From what I can tell, linear algebra is not offered at MCPS outside the math magnet programs.

But sure — math is SO strong in MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Take your kids to Watkins Mill or Gaithersburg, much better if they don't want to be in a school where basically football is the top priority. (Take this joke seriously or not.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Take your kids to Watkins Mill or Gaithersburg, much better if they don't want to be in a school where basically football is the top priority. (Take this joke seriously or not.)

LOL!

Of course, MCPS has exactly one 5 star high school: Whitman.

Not even Poolesville has 5 stars.

Pathetic.