Quince Orchard high school - recent experiences

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Anonymous wrote:Which are the closest magnet MS & HS from Rachel Carson ES? Do they provide busing? My kids are in Rachel Carsom ES now.


RCES has CES in 4th and 5th grades.

I believe the MS magnet options are Clemente for math or MLK for humanities. I don’t know that MCPS has a magnet option that covers all subjects.

For HS it would be Poolesville. You apply to a subject-based program.

The magnet programs are very, very competitive.


Are both Clemente magnet MS & MLK magnet MS in germantown better than lakeland MS? And, is it lottery based? I have an all A student, but he has IEP for emotional regulation and friendship. Does IEP goals transfer to other school? His strength is math.


The magnet programs are miles better than Lakelands Park.

Consider that only 37% of white students and 55% of Asian students are proficient in math at LPMS. For students with disabilities (which would likely include your child, given his IEP), it’s only 7%.

If he wants a strong math program, LPMS is not the place.

https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/ReportCards/ReportCardSchool/1/M/1/15/0522/0

You don't need a strong math program in MS. Have him do extra math stuff outside of school and aim for Poolesville SMCS later. Did not look, but I bet scores for clemente are even worse


Why skip clemente MS and going to LPMS if there's an option? I am asking because he has really high IQ (private testing for many reasons) and he wants competitive math which current school cannot provide. His another strength are chess and history/geography. I don't know what those extra stuffs are for supplement you mention here because no families at RCES care about axademic. If you know, can you share resources? They only care about sports every time I talk to them.

It’s been 6 years since I had a child at RCES, but that wasn’t our experience at all. Granted, my kids aren’t athletes so maybe that’s why nobody talked to us about sports, but there was definitely a culture that supported academics. Grades, test scores, reading levels, the spelling bee, the science fair, the CES were all very important to parents.


I have asked teachers at RCES for possible enrichment and more information for CES, they tell me that they don't know much about it. It does not make sense to me because some of them have taught there for decades. I never hear about spelling bees, and all I hear is that they stress on attenance and try to provide resources to help kids that fall behind to the average levels.

My kids went through RCES ending 5 years ago. There was a spelling bee back before Covid but what you are describing sounds the same. My one kid (now in college) was also very advanced. In fact so advanced that he had the highest MAP-M score his teacher had seen in 25 years (99% 3 grades up). You have to understand that there is not really anything they can do for these kids in ES. And no, I don't think private is any better. I was also worried about my kid's lack of challenge at RCES. I can tell you though now having come out of other side, that you don't need to worry about ES. All the challenges are out there in HS and beyond. Let you kid bet a kid. Enroll him in more chess. Let him explore things on Khan academy. Visit museums on weekend. Encourage his friendships and anything else he is interested in.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Which are the closest magnet MS & HS from Rachel Carson ES? Do they provide busing? My kids are in Rachel Carsom ES now.


RCES has CES in 4th and 5th grades.

I believe the MS magnet options are Clemente for math or MLK for humanities. I don’t know that MCPS has a magnet option that covers all subjects.

For HS it would be Poolesville. You apply to a subject-based program.

The magnet programs are very, very competitive.


Are both Clemente magnet MS & MLK magnet MS in germantown better than lakeland MS? And, is it lottery based? I have an all A student, but he has IEP for emotional regulation and friendship. Does IEP goals transfer to other school? His strength is math.


The magnet programs are miles better than Lakelands Park.

Consider that only 37% of white students and 55% of Asian students are proficient in math at LPMS. For students with disabilities (which would likely include your child, given his IEP), it’s only 7%.

If he wants a strong math program, LPMS is not the place.

https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/ReportCards/ReportCardSchool/1/M/1/15/0522/0

You don't need a strong math program in MS. Have him do extra math stuff outside of school and aim for Poolesville SMCS later. Did not look, but I bet scores for clemente are even worse


Extra Math stuff as in what? Should the child know Algebra 2 to be considered for Poolesville or is Algebra1 sufficient? Kumon or Mathnasium? Algebra 2 in Summer school?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Which are the closest magnet MS & HS from Rachel Carson ES? Do they provide busing? My kids are in Rachel Carsom ES now.


RCES has CES in 4th and 5th grades.

I believe the MS magnet options are Clemente for math or MLK for humanities. I don’t know that MCPS has a magnet option that covers all subjects.

For HS it would be Poolesville. You apply to a subject-based program.

The magnet programs are very, very competitive.


Are both Clemente magnet MS & MLK magnet MS in germantown better than lakeland MS? And, is it lottery based? I have an all A student, but he has IEP for emotional regulation and friendship. Does IEP goals transfer to other school? His strength is math.


The magnet programs are miles better than Lakelands Park.

Consider that only 37% of white students and 55% of Asian students are proficient in math at LPMS. For students with disabilities (which would likely include your child, given his IEP), it’s only 7%.

If he wants a strong math program, LPMS is not the place.

https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/ReportCards/ReportCardSchool/1/M/1/15/0522/0


I’m confused by this argument how are the kids that are not proficient in math gong to affect my child’s ability to be proficient in math


First of all, I hope your child is learning how to use punctuation.

Second of all, the reason it’s important is because it suggests that the math instruction is poor.


It’s clearly not poor for everybody because there are people proficient.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Which are the closest magnet MS & HS from Rachel Carson ES? Do they provide busing? My kids are in Rachel Carsom ES now.


RCES has CES in 4th and 5th grades.

I believe the MS magnet options are Clemente for math or MLK for humanities. I don’t know that MCPS has a magnet option that covers all subjects.

For HS it would be Poolesville. You apply to a subject-based program.

The magnet programs are very, very competitive.


Are both Clemente magnet MS & MLK magnet MS in germantown better than lakeland MS? And, is it lottery based? I have an all A student, but he has IEP for emotional regulation and friendship. Does IEP goals transfer to other school? His strength is math.


The magnet programs are miles better than Lakelands Park.

Consider that only 37% of white students and 55% of Asian students are proficient in math at LPMS. For students with disabilities (which would likely include your child, given his IEP), it’s only 7%.

If he wants a strong math program, LPMS is not the place.

https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/ReportCards/ReportCardSchool/1/M/1/15/0522/0


I’m confused by this argument how are the kids that are not proficient in math gong to affect my child’s ability to be proficient in math


First of all, I hope your child is learning how to use punctuation.

Second of all, the reason it’s important is because it suggests that the math instruction is poor.


It’s clearly not poor for everybody because there are people proficient.


If the math program is producing large swaths of the student body that is not proficient, then yes — it’s poor.

Why are you making excuses for this mediocrity?
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Compare LPMS to Pyle.

There, 30% of economically disadvantaged kids are proficient in math. At LPMS, 37% of all white kids are proficient in math.

LPMS cannot educate the overall white population better in math than Pyle can do so for economically disadvantaged kids.

And I’m supposed to be ok with sending my kid to LPMS? That’s her assigned middle school.
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IIf you leave these schools for private, you are part of the problem.
Be the change!
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I believe the aging population of the neighbor hoods within half to one mile of the school, i.e. expensive single families is contributing to the problem. Previously, these were the families that were super involved like PTA president etc.. Things will turn around with a new principal and you must get involved.
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Anonymous wrote:IIf you leave these schools for private, you are part of the problem.
Be the change!


Sending my kid to a crappy school doesn’t make it better.

Sorry — my kid’s education is too important to me.
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Anonymous wrote:IIf you leave these schools for private, you are part of the problem.
Be the change!


Sending my kid to a crappy school doesn’t make it better.

Sorry — my kid’s education is too important to me.


I put my son in private fyi, and he got a subpar STEM education. The kids who stayed the course at QO and the feeder MS did much better.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:IIf you leave these schools for private, you are part of the problem.
Be the change!


Sending my kid to a crappy school doesn’t make it better.

Sorry — my kid’s education is too important to me.


I put my son in private fyi, and he got a subpar STEM education. The kids who stayed the course at QO and the feeder MS did much better.


Name the school or I don’t believe you. This is a tired stereotype.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:IIf you leave these schools for private, you are part of the problem.
Be the change!


Sending my kid to a crappy school doesn’t make it better.

Sorry — my kid’s education is too important to me.


I put my son in private fyi, and he got a subpar STEM education. The kids who stayed the course at QO and the feeder MS did much better.


Name the school or I don’t believe you. This is a tired stereotype.


I will not but it is the truth. My son freaked out when he returned to QO and his previous classmates were 1 to 2 years ahead in Math. The breath of classes offered at QO is far ahead of privates unless of course you want to study Latin. DS did get 100% on the ACT English.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:IIf you leave these schools for private, you are part of the problem.
Be the change!


Sending my kid to a crappy school doesn’t make it better.

Sorry — my kid’s education is too important to me.


I put my son in private fyi, and he got a subpar STEM education. The kids who stayed the course at QO and the feeder MS did much better.


Name the school or I don’t believe you. This is a tired stereotype.


I will not but it is the truth. My son freaked out when he returned to QO and his previous classmates were 1 to 2 years ahead in Math. The breath of classes offered at QO is far ahead of privates unless of course you want to study Latin. DS did get 100% on the ACT English.


Uh huh. Sure.

Let’s look at math at QO:

Algebra Courses
Algebra 1
Algebra 2
Honors Algebra 2
2 year Algebra 2

Geometry Courses
Geometry
Honors Geometry

Statistics Courses
Honors Statistics
AP Statistics

Precalculus & Calculus Courses
Honors Calculus with Applications
Precalculus
AP Precalculus
AP Calculus AB
AP Calculus BC

Additional Courses
Financial Mathematics
Related Math
Statistics and Math Modeling

Now let’s look at Sidwell:

Geometry with integrated algebra
Geometry
Math I (accelerated)

Algebra 2
Pre calculus
Accelerated combined Algebra 2 and pre calculus

AP Stats
AB calc
BC calc

Math IV (accelerated AP BC calc)

Linear Algebra

I could go through and do a comparison of the hard sciences. But I’m sure QOHS’s stellar 61% of white kids and 69% of Asian kids who are proficient in math speaks for itself. Obviously QO is a math powerhouse that none of the private schools can touch.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:IIf you leave these schools for private, you are part of the problem.
Be the change!


Sending my kid to a crappy school doesn’t make it better.

Sorry — my kid’s education is too important to me.


I put my son in private fyi, and he got a subpar STEM education. The kids who stayed the course at QO and the feeder MS did much better.


Name the school or I don’t believe you. This is a tired stereotype.


I will not but it is the truth. My son freaked out when he returned to QO and his previous classmates were 1 to 2 years ahead in Math. The breath of classes offered at QO is far ahead of privates unless of course you want to study Latin. DS did get 100% on the ACT English.


Uh huh. Sure.

Let’s look at math at QO:

Algebra Courses
Algebra 1
Algebra 2
Honors Algebra 2
2 year Algebra 2

Geometry Courses
Geometry
Honors Geometry

Statistics Courses
Honors Statistics
AP Statistics

Precalculus & Calculus Courses
Honors Calculus with Applications
Precalculus
AP Precalculus
AP Calculus AB
AP Calculus BC

Additional Courses
Financial Mathematics
Related Math
Statistics and Math Modeling

Now let’s look at Sidwell:

Geometry with integrated algebra
Geometry
Math I (accelerated)

Algebra 2
Pre calculus
Accelerated combined Algebra 2 and pre calculus

AP Stats
AB calc
BC calc

Math IV (accelerated AP BC calc)

Linear Algebra

I could go through and do a comparison of the hard sciences. But I’m sure QOHS’s stellar 61% of white kids and 69% of Asian kids who are proficient in math speaks for itself. Obviously QO is a math powerhouse that none of the private schools can touch.


dp.. You are comparing a wealthier private with a diverse public that needs to meet the needs of ESOL students. Not exactly a fair comparison.

Even so, a large public has the economies of scale to offer various courses. Smaller privates can't do that, especially the non top tier privates.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:IIf you leave these schools for private, you are part of the problem.
Be the change!


Sending my kid to a crappy school doesn’t make it better.

Sorry — my kid’s education is too important to me.


I put my son in private fyi, and he got a subpar STEM education. The kids who stayed the course at QO and the feeder MS did much better.


Name the school or I don’t believe you. This is a tired stereotype.


I will not but it is the truth. My son freaked out when he returned to QO and his previous classmates were 1 to 2 years ahead in Math. The breath of classes offered at QO is far ahead of privates unless of course you want to study Latin. DS did get 100% on the ACT English.


Uh huh. Sure.

Let’s look at math at QO:

Algebra Courses
Algebra 1
Algebra 2
Honors Algebra 2
2 year Algebra 2

Geometry Courses
Geometry
Honors Geometry

Statistics Courses
Honors Statistics
AP Statistics

Precalculus & Calculus Courses
Honors Calculus with Applications
Precalculus
AP Precalculus
AP Calculus AB
AP Calculus BC

Additional Courses
Financial Mathematics
Related Math
Statistics and Math Modeling

Now let’s look at Sidwell:

Geometry with integrated algebra
Geometry
Math I (accelerated)

Algebra 2
Pre calculus
Accelerated combined Algebra 2 and pre calculus

AP Stats
AB calc
BC calc

Math IV (accelerated AP BC calc)

Linear Algebra

I could go through and do a comparison of the hard sciences. But I’m sure QOHS’s stellar 61% of white kids and 69% of Asian kids who are proficient in math speaks for itself. Obviously QO is a math powerhouse that none of the private schools can touch.


dp.. You are comparing a wealthier private with a diverse public that needs to meet the needs of ESOL students. Not exactly a fair comparison.

Even so, a large public has the economies of scale to offer various courses. Smaller privates can't do that, especially the non top tier privates.


I never argued that small, mediocre private schools are better.

I argued the good private schools are better.

As for the number of courses:

QO doesn’t offer any more courses than the vast majority of private schools.

Second, why does the number of courses mean anything when their proficiency scores are so awful? You could offer 200 math courses, but if you can’t produce proficient students, who cares?
Anonymous
To the QO basher: are you worried you won't get into Sidwell, is that why you are upset? Or are you worried about the poors in the vicinity that you mistakenly were not aware of when you purchased your home?

Get off your computer, go to the gym (you must be SAHM) then come home and figure out how to move to a W school pronto on your budget.
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