Quince Orchard high school - recent experiences

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Anonymous wrote:IIf you leave these schools for private, you are part of the problem.
Be the change!

Sending my kid to a crappy school doesn’t make it better.

Sorry — my kid’s education is too important to me.

I put my son in private fyi, and he got a subpar STEM education. The kids who stayed the course at QO and the feeder MS did much better.

Name the school or I don’t believe you. This is a tired stereotype.

I will not but it is the truth. My son freaked out when he returned to QO and his previous classmates were 1 to 2 years ahead in Math. The breath of classes offered at QO is far ahead of privates unless of course you want to study Latin. DS did get 100% on the ACT English.

Uh huh. Sure.

Let’s look at math at QO:

Algebra Courses
Algebra 1
Algebra 2
Honors Algebra 2
2 year Algebra 2

Geometry Courses
Geometry
Honors Geometry

Statistics Courses
Honors Statistics
AP Statistics

Precalculus & Calculus Courses
Honors Calculus with Applications
Precalculus
AP Precalculus
AP Calculus AB
AP Calculus BC

Additional Courses
Financial Mathematics
Related Math
Statistics and Math Modeling

Now let’s look at Sidwell:

Geometry with integrated algebra
Geometry
Math I (accelerated)

Algebra 2
Pre calculus
Accelerated combined Algebra 2 and pre calculus

AP Stats
AB calc
BC calc

Math IV (accelerated AP BC calc)

Linear Algebra

I could go through and do a comparison of the hard sciences. But I’m sure QOHS’s stellar 61% of white kids and 69% of Asian kids who are proficient in math speaks for itself. Obviously QO is a math powerhouse that none of the private schools can touch.

dp.. You are comparing a wealthier private with a diverse public that needs to meet the needs of ESOL students. Not exactly a fair comparison.

Even so, a large public has the economies of scale to offer various courses. Smaller privates can't do that, especially the non top tier privates.

I never argued that small, mediocre private schools are better.

I argued the good private schools are better.

As for the number of courses:

QO doesn’t offer any more courses than the vast majority of private schools.

Second, why does the number of courses mean anything when their proficiency scores are so awful? You could offer 200 math courses, but if you can’t produce proficient students, who cares?

"Good private schools" are the rich ones, so of course they will be "better". Very obtuse.

Based on the list, I see that QO does indeed offer more differentiation in math classes than privates. I count 20 math courses at QO and like 11 at Sidwell, per your list. That is almost double.

That doesn’t translate into more differentiation. It’s purely how they’re dividing out the classes.

Sidwell offers linear algebra, while QO does not. In fact, every private school I’ve looked at offers linear algebra.

Once again, the rich privates will offer more advanced options, but not the non top tier ones, yet you consistently compare a diverse large public school that has a 30%+ FARMS rate with a small rich private school.

I bash MCPS a lot, but your critical thinking skills need some honing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Take your kids to Watkins Mill or Gaithersburg, much better if they don't want to be in a school where basically football is the top priority. (Take this joke seriously or not.)

LOL!

Of course, MCPS has exactly one 5 star high school: Whitman.

Not even Poolesville has 5 stars.

Pathetic.

Oh gosh, yea, a 160K student school district with a close to 40% FARMs and an almost 20% ESOL rate doesn't have more than one 5 star outstanding HS. I'm so shocked. /s

Are some of you pro-private school parents seriously this dumb?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From what I can tell, linear algebra is not offered at MCPS outside the math magnet programs.

But sure — math is SO strong in MCPS.

Compared to most private schools, yes, MCPS is stronger in math because of economies of scale.

If you want to compare a large public school district to private schools, then you don't get to pick and choose which private schools to compare it to.

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Anonymous wrote:IIf you leave these schools for private, you are part of the problem.
Be the change!

Sending my kid to a crappy school doesn’t make it better.

Sorry — my kid’s education is too important to me.

I put my son in private fyi, and he got a subpar STEM education. The kids who stayed the course at QO and the feeder MS did much better.

Name the school or I don’t believe you. This is a tired stereotype.

I will not but it is the truth. My son freaked out when he returned to QO and his previous classmates were 1 to 2 years ahead in Math. The breath of classes offered at QO is far ahead of privates unless of course you want to study Latin. DS did get 100% on the ACT English.

Uh huh. Sure.

Let’s look at math at QO:

Algebra Courses
Algebra 1
Algebra 2
Honors Algebra 2
2 year Algebra 2

Geometry Courses
Geometry
Honors Geometry

Statistics Courses
Honors Statistics
AP Statistics

Precalculus & Calculus Courses
Honors Calculus with Applications
Precalculus
AP Precalculus
AP Calculus AB
AP Calculus BC

Additional Courses
Financial Mathematics
Related Math
Statistics and Math Modeling

Now let’s look at Sidwell:

Geometry with integrated algebra
Geometry
Math I (accelerated)

Algebra 2
Pre calculus
Accelerated combined Algebra 2 and pre calculus

AP Stats
AB calc
BC calc

Math IV (accelerated AP BC calc)

Linear Algebra

I could go through and do a comparison of the hard sciences. But I’m sure QOHS’s stellar 61% of white kids and 69% of Asian kids who are proficient in math speaks for itself. Obviously QO is a math powerhouse that none of the private schools can touch.

dp.. You are comparing a wealthier private with a diverse public that needs to meet the needs of ESOL students. Not exactly a fair comparison.

Even so, a large public has the economies of scale to offer various courses. Smaller privates can't do that, especially the non top tier privates.

I never argued that small, mediocre private schools are better.

I argued the good private schools are better.

As for the number of courses:

QO doesn’t offer any more courses than the vast majority of private schools.

Second, why does the number of courses mean anything when their proficiency scores are so awful? You could offer 200 math courses, but if you can’t produce proficient students, who cares?

"Good private schools" are the rich ones, so of course they will be "better". Very obtuse.

Based on the list, I see that QO does indeed offer more differentiation in math classes than privates. I count 20 math courses at QO and like 11 at Sidwell, per your list. That is almost double.

That doesn’t translate into more differentiation. It’s purely how they’re dividing out the classes.

Sidwell offers linear algebra, while QO does not. In fact, every private school I’ve looked at offers linear algebra.

Once again, the rich privates will offer more advanced options, but not the non top tier ones, yet you consistently compare a diverse large public school that has a 30%+ FARMS rate with a small rich private school.

I bash MCPS a lot, but your critical thinking skills need some honing.

Do I have to say it again?

I was responding to someone who said QOHS offers a better STEM education than private schools.

They didn’t say better than lower tier private schools. They said private schools in general.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From what I can tell, linear algebra is not offered at MCPS outside the math magnet programs.

But sure — math is SO strong in MCPS.

Compared to most private schools, yes, MCPS is stronger in math because of economies of scale.

If you want to compare a large public school district to private schools, then you don't get to pick and choose which private schools to compare it to.

Just because they offer more courses doesn’t make them stronger.

The math proficiency rates are abysmal. I don’t care how many courses are being offered. If kids aren’t learning anything, it doesn’t matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Take your kids to Watkins Mill or Gaithersburg, much better if they don't want to be in a school where basically football is the top priority. (Take this joke seriously or not.)

LOL!

Of course, MCPS has exactly one 5 star high school: Whitman.

Not even Poolesville has 5 stars.

Pathetic.

Oh gosh, yea, a 160K student school district with a close to 40% FARMs and an almost 20% ESOL rate doesn't have more than one 5 star outstanding HS. I'm so shocked. /s

Are some of you pro-private school parents seriously this dumb?

Then stop acting as though all the W schools are good. Because clearly they’re not.

[Anonymous]

My goodness! So many insecure private schools parents who need to justify paying for an inferior product.
DMV private schools cannot compete with MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My goodness! So many insecure private schools parents who need to justify paying for an inferior product.
DMV private schools cannot compete with MCPS.

And here’s the ignorance we’ve been dealing with, folks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My goodness! So many insecure private schools parents who need to justify paying for an inferior product.
DMV private schools cannot compete with MCPS.

And here’s the ignorance we’ve been dealing with, folks.

It's fact.
I know it hurts every time you have to send in the check, but it is what it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My goodness! So many insecure private schools parents who need to justify paying for an inferior product.
DMV private schools cannot compete with MCPS.

And here’s the ignorance we’ve been dealing with, folks.

It's fact.
I know it hurts every time you have to send in the check, but it is what it is.

Hint: it helps to provide evidence for your claims.

The MD state report card puts MCPS’s mediocrity out there for everyone to see.

It would be so helpful if you could provide evidence proving private schools produce worse outcomes. Data, maybe?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Take your kids to Watkins Mill or Gaithersburg, much better if they don't want to be in a school where basically football is the top priority. (Take this joke seriously or not.)

LOL!

Of course, MCPS has exactly one 5 star high school: Whitman.

Not even Poolesville has 5 stars.

Pathetic.

Oh gosh, yea, a 160K student school district with a close to 40% FARMs and an almost 20% ESOL rate doesn't have more than one 5 star outstanding HS. I'm so shocked. /s

Are some of you pro-private school parents seriously this dumb?

Then stop acting as though all the W schools are good. Because clearly they’re not.

Good =/= perfect

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Take your kids to Watkins Mill or Gaithersburg, much better if they don't want to be in a school where basically football is the top priority. (Take this joke seriously or not.)

LOL!

Of course, MCPS has exactly one 5 star high school: Whitman.

Not even Poolesville has 5 stars.

Pathetic.

Oh gosh, yea, a 160K student school district with a close to 40% FARMs and an almost 20% ESOL rate doesn't have more than one 5 star outstanding HS. I'm so shocked. /s

Are some of you pro-private school parents seriously this dumb?

Then stop acting as though all the W schools are good. Because clearly they’re not.

Good =/= perfect

I’ve got news for you: Only having 72% of white kids hitting math proficiency at Churchill and Wootton isn’t good. Even at Poolesville, it’s only 70%.

But hey — if you’re ok with your kid going to a mediocre school, more power to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My goodness! So many insecure private schools parents who need to justify paying for an inferior product.
DMV private schools cannot compete with MCPS.

And here’s the ignorance we’ve been dealing with, folks.

It's fact.
I know it hurts every time you have to send in the check, but it is what it is.

Hint: it helps to provide evidence for your claims.

The MD state report card puts MCPS’s mediocrity out there for everyone to see.

It would be so helpful if you could provide evidence proving private schools produce worse outcomes. Data, maybe?

Hint: you don’t even know what the MD report card scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My goodness! So many insecure private schools parents who need to justify paying for an inferior product.
DMV private schools cannot compete with MCPS.

And here’s the ignorance we’ve been dealing with, folks.

It's fact.
I know it hurts every time you have to send in the check, but it is what it is.

Hint: it helps to provide evidence for your claims.

The MD state report card puts MCPS’s mediocrity out there for everyone to see.

It would be so helpful if you could provide evidence proving private schools produce worse outcomes. Data, maybe?

Hint: you don’t even know what the MD report card scores.

Hint: I know it assesses proficiency in math, reading, etc.

Would be nice if you could provide ANY evidence that shows private schools are inferior. If you make a claim, it’s nice to have backing. Otherwise it looks like you’re just talking out of your ass.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From what I can tell, linear algebra is not offered at MCPS outside the math magnet programs.

But sure — math is SO strong in MCPS.

Compared to most private schools, yes, MCPS is stronger in math because of economies of scale.

If you want to compare a large public school district to private schools, then you don't get to pick and choose which private schools to compare it to.

Just because they offer more courses doesn’t make them stronger.

The math proficiency rates are abysmal. I don’t care how many courses are being offered. If kids aren’t learning anything, it doesn’t matter.

Well, gosh, why would that be. Think real hard.