Culture War and the death of “Woke”

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Anonymous wrote:The saddest part about this election is diversity, equity, and inclusion actually ended up being the perfect summation of Trumps coalition of voters that sent him to the White House.

LOL true, they are the true DEI king.

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Anonymous wrote:This madness happened in the past few years strongly resembles the Great Cultural Revolution in the 1970's in China. It lasted 10 years and destroyed catastrophically education, economy, families, and communities. People lost trust in each other even within families and traditional values and faiths were gone. My Chinese immigrant friends and I are all scared of this and are happy conservatives prevailed liberals in this election.

Same here.

Several of my adult friends grew up in China; they see the progressive movement in the USA as a similar threat as Mao’s murderous cultural revolution.

The woke left is the opposite of “tolerant.” Plus, they are violent.

The only American period that is remotely close to Culture revolution is the Maccarthy era. However people did not get beat to death in front of their family by Mao's hooligans, they just lost their livelihood. Maccarthy was republican, and some of Trump's rhetorics were similar to his.

BTW, Jan 6 was the closet to Mao's "mass movement" - sending the mob.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This madness happened in the past few years strongly resembles the Great Cultural Revolution in the 1970's in China. It lasted 10 years and destroyed catastrophically education, economy, families, and communities. People lost trust in each other even within families and traditional values and faiths were gone. My Chinese immigrant friends and I are all scared of this and are happy conservatives prevailed liberals in this election.

Same here.

Several of my adult friends grew up in China; they see the progressive movement in the USA as a similar threat as Mao’s murderous cultural revolution.

The woke left is the opposite of “tolerant.” Plus, they are violent.

The only American period that is remotely close to Culture revolution is the Maccarthy era. However people did not get beat to death in front of their family by Mao's hooligans, they just lost their livelihood. Maccarthy was republican, and some of Trump's rhetorics were similar to his.

BTW, Jan 6 was the closet to Mao's "mass movement" - sending the mob.

Not sure if you were alive during the summer of 2020 but THAT was a mob burning city after city with complete impunity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Calling someone "woke" as a slur says more about the person saying it than it does about the so called "woke" person.

Caring about others and respecting their differences is not about a bad thing.

Yes, but as a liberal we’ve gone overboard with the soft bigotry of low expectations. Permitting crime in cities or letting “youths up to age 25” in DC basically car jack someone and have their criminal recorded shielded and they don’t get prosecuted. Slap on the wrist penalties. Letting people with unlimited amounts of speeding tickets not lose their license because it’s “unfair”. That sort of progressive, yes “woke” criminal justice is extremely unsafe and unhelpful.

Or in our schools, the woke idea that gifted and talented classes aren’t fair and we should lump remedial learners with advanced learners, thus forcing teachers to teach to the common denominator. This sort of woke thinking makes the entire nation dumber. I know it feels good and whatever, but do you want an engineer who was just scooted by and pushed up to the next grade and is less qualified because we have water down academic vigor? Because we eliminated neutral testing for entry to rigorous schools? No dude. That’s how you get Boeing 737 type planes everywhere.

I’m a pro-choice liberal who voted for Harris and who lives in SE DC the way. I live in a nice row house and I drive a cargo bike and do all the normal urban city sht every other parent here does, but I’m sick of the idiocy and woke policies with crime and school. It’s fking up our world standing, competitiveness and domestic safety.

As a democratic voter, I am completely aligned with your thinking. Wish our party was more reasonable and practical. Only reason I am not a republican these days is because all they have to offer is the criminal Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think arguing about wokeness is stupid, it is exactly what the rich want us to do - divide and conquer. What really matters is social economics - lifting the poor out of poverty, stabilizing the middle class... Americans should talk more about class instead of race, gender,...

Capitalism can lift the poor out of poverty.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Calling someone "woke" as a slur says more about the person saying it than it does about the so called "woke" person.

Caring about others and respecting their differences is not about a bad thing.

Yes, but as a liberal we’ve gone overboard with the soft bigotry of low expectations. Permitting crime in cities or letting “youths up to age 25” in DC basically car jack someone and have their criminal recorded shielded and they don’t get prosecuted. Slap on the wrist penalties. Letting people with unlimited amounts of speeding tickets not lose their license because it’s “unfair”. That sort of progressive, yes “woke” criminal justice is extremely unsafe and unhelpful.

Or in our schools, the woke idea that gifted and talented classes aren’t fair and we should lump remedial learners with advanced learners, thus forcing teachers to teach to the common denominator. This sort of woke thinking makes the entire nation dumber. I know it feels good and whatever, but do you want an engineer who was just scooted by and pushed up to the next grade and is less qualified because we have water down academic vigor? Because we eliminated neutral testing for entry to rigorous schools? No dude. That’s how you get Boeing 737 type planes everywhere.

I’m a pro-choice liberal who voted for Harris and who lives in SE DC the way. I live in a nice row house and I drive a cargo bike and do all the normal urban city sht every other parent here does, but I’m sick of the idiocy and woke policies with crime and school. It’s fking up our world standing, competitiveness and domestic safety.

As a democratic voter, I am completely aligned with your thinking. Wish our party was more reasonable and practical. Only reason I am not a republican these days is because all they have to offer is the criminal Trump.

I'm another mainly democratic voter who broke this time, because of all the DEI and they/them stuff coming from the left. Yes, I despise Trump, but honestly this craziness from the left has got to stop. I'm just really hoping that they learn the lesson from this election and move away from the far left nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Listen, Trump voters don’t have mental capacity to think large or think ahead.

A man participating in a women Olympics is more important than our environment going down the toilet, more important than lack of affordable healthcare or the crap mass food production.

Modern Americans are obese and sickly and will have much shorter life span, but sure let’s focus on gender bathrooms.

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I don't think for most of us the main objection is the trans advantage in women's sports. I'm a teacher and for several years now we've been counseled against saying boys and girls in favor of more "gender inclusive" language. When visiting colleges with my daughters, the presenters would always begin by announcing their pronouns.

This is the kind of shift that most Americans find deeply troubling and quite frankly inane. This is our society, our culture, what the left is trying to push on us as normal. It's not just conservative that are fed up with this. It's really the norm among the majority although people are reluctant to speak openly about it. I know quite a few left leaning if not liberal people who have grumbled about feeling like they now need to add their pronouns to their work emails. Even my college daughter who is definitely a democrat says she feels like she needs to add her pronouns to her socials even though she thinks it's rather silly. I truly don't think the left realizes how much this stuff has alienated the majority of Americans.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Calling someone "woke" as a slur says more about the person saying it than it does about the so called "woke" person.

Caring about others and respecting their differences is not about a bad thing.

Yes, but as a liberal we’ve gone overboard with the soft bigotry of low expectations. Permitting crime in cities or letting “youths up to age 25” in DC basically car jack someone and have their criminal recorded shielded and they don’t get prosecuted. Slap on the wrist penalties. Letting people with unlimited amounts of speeding tickets not lose their license because it’s “unfair”. That sort of progressive, yes “woke” criminal justice is extremely unsafe and unhelpful.

Or in our schools, the woke idea that gifted and talented classes aren’t fair and we should lump remedial learners with advanced learners, thus forcing teachers to teach to the common denominator. This sort of woke thinking makes the entire nation dumber. I know it feels good and whatever, but do you want an engineer who was just scooted by and pushed up to the next grade and is less qualified because we have water down academic vigor? Because we eliminated neutral testing for entry to rigorous schools? No dude. That’s how you get Boeing 737 type planes everywhere.

I’m a pro-choice liberal who voted for Harris and who lives in SE DC the way. I live in a nice row house and I drive a cargo bike and do all the normal urban city sht every other parent here does, but I’m sick of the idiocy and woke policies with crime and school. It’s fking up our world standing, competitiveness and domestic safety.

As a democratic voter, I am completely aligned with your thinking. Wish our party was more reasonable and practical. Only reason I am not a republican these days is because all they have to offer is the criminal Trump.

Lifelong liberal and I have to agree as well

Hey, I'm a what used to be called liberal, and I actually broke and voted for Trump this time because I am just so sick and fed up with this crap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think arguing about wokeness is stupid, it is exactly what the rich want us to do - divide and conquer. What really matters is social economics - lifting the poor out of poverty, stabilizing the middle class... Americans should talk more about class instead of race, gender,...

Who are you to tell me what should matter to me? That is incredibly condescending. For me, the main issue is wokeness. I actually side with the Democrats about most other issues, but I hate what the left is doing to the culture, and for ME culture is deeply important, it's ingrained in day to day life and after a lot of reflection I realized that it's really what I care about more than other issues, even the economy. How dare you tell me what it is that I should really care about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Men are just pathetic. Just suck it up.

Somebody is angry that she doesn’t have more big hairy men in her life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Calling someone "woke" as a slur says more about the person saying it than it does about the so called "woke" person.

Caring about others and respecting their differences is not about a bad thing.

Yes, but as a liberal we’ve gone overboard with the soft bigotry of low expectations. Permitting crime in cities or letting “youths up to age 25” in DC basically car jack someone and have their criminal recorded shielded and they don’t get prosecuted. Slap on the wrist penalties. Letting people with unlimited amounts of speeding tickets not lose their license because it’s “unfair”. That sort of progressive, yes “woke” criminal justice is extremely unsafe and unhelpful.

Or in our schools, the woke idea that gifted and talented classes aren’t fair and we should lump remedial learners with advanced learners, thus forcing teachers to teach to the common denominator. This sort of woke thinking makes the entire nation dumber. I know it feels good and whatever, but do you want an engineer who was just scooted by and pushed up to the next grade and is less qualified because we have water down academic vigor? Because we eliminated neutral testing for entry to rigorous schools? No dude. That’s how you get Boeing 737 type planes everywhere.

I’m a pro-choice liberal who voted for Harris and who lives in SE DC the way. I live in a nice row house and I drive a cargo bike and do all the normal urban city sht every other parent here does, but I’m sick of the idiocy and woke policies with crime and school. It’s fking up our world standing, competitiveness and domestic safety.

As a democratic voter, I am completely aligned with your thinking. Wish our party was more reasonable and practical. Only reason I am not a republican these days is because all they have to offer is the criminal Trump.

Lifelong liberal and I have to agree as well

Hey, I'm a what used to be called liberal, and I actually broke and voted for Trump this time because I am just so sick and fed up with this crap.

Your party needs to get a hold of your progressive wing and rise up the classical liberals again.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Men are just pathetic. Just suck it up.

Somebody is angry that she doesn’t have more big hairy men in her life.

You all are so freaked out by anyone that doesn't look or act like the people in your stepford wives village. Listen to yourselves. You sound like scared little whiny b******. You need to relax stop spending so much time and energy being frightened by shadows.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hate to break this to you, but woke is here to stay. Things change and you can try to push but it’s bigger than you are. Sink or swim

Dems sabotage themselves by not knowing when to stop.

The had a steady flow of illegals, but turned it into a flood. Too much.

They had legal abortion but pushed for late-term abortions & no notification of parents & government funding. Too much.

They had Title IX women’s equality in sports, but pushed for trans participation in women’s sports. Too far.

They got legalized gay marriage, but pushed for drag shows in elementary schools. Too much.

Some Dems are gluttonous progressives that are always going a bridge too far. Finally even many Democrats said “Enough!”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate to break this to you, but woke is here to stay. Things change and you can try to push but it’s bigger than you are. Sink or swim

Dems sabotage themselves by not knowing when to stop.

The had a steady flow of illegals, but turned it into a flood. Too much.

They had legal abortion but pushed for late-term abortions & no notification of parents & government funding. Too much.

They had Title IX women’s equality in sports, but pushed for trans participation in women’s sports. Too far.

They got legalized gay marriage, but pushed for drag shows in elementary schools. Too much.

Some Dems are gluttonous progressives that are always going a bridge too far. Finally even many Democrats said “Enough!”

What a bunch of nonsense. Find a better planet to live on because because you seem to be living on some sad rigid planet of Bull crap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Calling someone "woke" as a slur says more about the person saying it than it does about the so called "woke" person.

Caring about others and respecting their differences is not about a bad thing.

Yes, but as a liberal we’ve gone overboard with the soft bigotry of low expectations. Permitting crime in cities or letting “youths up to age 25” in DC basically car jack someone and have their criminal recorded shielded and they don’t get prosecuted. Slap on the wrist penalties. Letting people with unlimited amounts of speeding tickets not lose their license because it’s “unfair”. That sort of progressive, yes “woke” criminal justice is extremely unsafe and unhelpful.

Or in our schools, the woke idea that gifted and talented classes aren’t fair and we should lump remedial learners with advanced learners, thus forcing teachers to teach to the common denominator. This sort of woke thinking makes the entire nation dumber. I know it feels good and whatever, but do you want an engineer who was just scooted by and pushed up to the next grade and is less qualified because we have water down academic vigor? Because we eliminated neutral testing for entry to rigorous schools? No dude. That’s how you get Boeing 737 type planes everywhere.

I’m a pro-choice liberal who voted for Harris and who lives in SE DC the way. I live in a nice row house and I drive a cargo bike and do all the normal urban city sht every other parent here does, but I’m sick of the idiocy and woke policies with crime and school. It’s fking up our world standing, competitiveness and domestic safety.

As a democratic voter, I am completely aligned with your thinking. Wish our party was more reasonable and practical. Only reason I am not a republican these days is because all they have to offer is the criminal Trump.

I respect the introspection, but you admittedly voted to allow the 100s or 1000s of criminals and disadvantaged children you just mentioned to continue the status quo just because you dislike the man’s personal affairs. I think that needs some thought as well.

Simply wishing your party was one way or another does not fix anything. You need to let them know with your vote like millions of other Americans did.

Hopefully after this fumble more reasonable Democratic Party leaders are voted in and things go in a better direction.