Culture War and the death of “Woke”

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Anonymous wrote:Listen, Trump voters don’t have mental capacity to think large or think ahead.

A man participating in a women Olympics is more important than our environment going down the toilet, more important than lack of affordable healthcare or the crap mass food production.

Modern Americans are obese and sickly and will have much shorter life span, but sure let’s focus on gender bathrooms.
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I don't think for most of us the main objection is the trans advantage in women's sports. I'm a teacher and for several years now we've been counseled against saying boys and girls in favor of more "gender inclusive" language. When visiting colleges with my daughters, the presenters would always begin by announcing their pronouns.

This is the kind of shift that most Americans find deeply troubling and quite frankly inane. This is our society, our culture, what the left is trying to push on us as normal. It's not just conservative that are fed up with this. It's really the norm among the majority although people are reluctant to speak openly about it. I know quite a few left leaning if not liberal people who have grumbled about feeling like they now need to add their pronouns to their work emails. Even my college daughter who is definitely a democrat says she feels like she needs to add her pronouns to her socials even though she thinks it's rather silly. I truly don't think the left realizes how much this stuff has alienated the majority of Americans.




Wait, so you’re alienated by adding pronouns to social media so others are clear on what you want to be called vs the rise in hate speech that’s being allowed and encouraged?


It’s a national refusal to play pretend with mentally ill people anymore. I have no problem with trans people in general. Unfortunately they’re already a fringe community that was then plagued with an even more fringe community of mentally unstable people seeking a place in society. I’ve seen countless trans individuals express their frustration with the situation.


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The problem is that in the eugenics moment it was the white women who were deemed feebleminded and housed in institutions. I don’t think the “mentally unstable” slippery slope is one women should be so eager to jump on.


“Hey, little lady, that’s some nice independent thinking you’ve got. You wouldn’t want to see that go away, would you? Better agree with us completely that transwomen are women, don’t you think?”

People voted against you precisely because they are sick of people like you threatening them exactly like you just did.
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Anonymous wrote:Listen, Trump voters don’t have mental capacity to think large or think ahead.

A man participating in a women Olympics is more important than our environment going down the toilet, more important than lack of affordable healthcare or the crap mass food production.

Modern Americans are obese and sickly and will have much shorter life span, but sure let’s focus on gender bathrooms.
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I don't think for most of us the main objection is the trans advantage in women's sports. I'm a teacher and for several years now we've been counseled against saying boys and girls in favor of more "gender inclusive" language. When visiting colleges with my daughters, the presenters would always begin by announcing their pronouns.

This is the kind of shift that most Americans find deeply troubling and quite frankly inane. This is our society, our culture, what the left is trying to push on us as normal. It's not just conservative that are fed up with this. It's really the norm among the majority although people are reluctant to speak openly about it. I know quite a few left leaning if not liberal people who have grumbled about feeling like they now need to add their pronouns to their work emails. Even my college daughter who is definitely a democrat says she feels like she needs to add her pronouns to her socials even though she thinks it's rather silly. I truly don't think the left realizes how much this stuff has alienated the majority of Americans.




Wait, so you’re alienated by adding pronouns to social media so others are clear on what you want to be called vs the rise in hate speech that’s being allowed and encouraged?


It’s a national refusal to play pretend with mentally ill people anymore. I have no problem with trans people in general. Unfortunately they’re already a fringe community that was then plagued with an even more fringe community of mentally unstable people seeking a place in society. I’ve seen countless trans individuals express their frustration with the situation.


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The problem is that in the eugenics moment it was the white women who were deemed feebleminded and housed in institutions. I don’t think the “mentally unstable” slippery slope is one women should be so eager to jump on.


“Hey, little lady, that’s some nice independent thinking you’ve got. You wouldn’t want to see that go away, would you? Better agree with us completely that transwomen are women, don’t you think?”

People voted against you precisely because they are sick of people like you threatening them exactly like you just did.


I am really am horrified that men literally are insisting that I have to call them women. And to further clarify, I, the woman, must actually refer to myself as a ciswoman. But the conservatives are the problem? The ones who just want to live and let live?
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Anonymous wrote: I am a middle aged Catholic married mother. Trying to be empathetic to people who are not “normies” is not too much of an ask for me. However, I will never be ok with a felon, racist, thief, rapist as president.


It’s moved well beyond “empathy” when we are asked to allow biological male bodies on our girls’ sports team and into their restrooms.


I'm far more worried about hetero men around me and my daughter than any trans person.

And this is just not happening -men in women's bathrooms and teams- on any significant level. And even it if were, it could be handled to find a solution that wasn't demonizing people and without cruelty. But as usual, MAGA is not capable of that.

Do you never use a unisex bathroom, btw?


It absolutely is happening at a significant level. Look at the boycotts of collegiate women, willing to lose games rather than risk their safety playing against male bodies. Look at the firing of the coaches speaking up for their female players. Look at the two winners of the female boxing category at the Olympics. You can bury your head in the sand or you can open your eyes.



I have college athletes on my own and I've been to countless athletic events in college and elsewhere. This is not a thing. Youth sports, college sports, high school sports. They are rolling along as the billion dollar business that they are . relax


The left always starts with denial before moving to “it’s not happening at all significant level” to “it’s happening and it’s a good thing”.

Tell the San Jose state volleyball team that they didn’t boycott a game for fear of their safety. Tell the coach that she wasn’t suspended - well actually, address the title ix lawsuit she just fired. Her name is Melissa Smoose.

According to the UN report, "Violence Against Women and Girls in Sports," transgender athletes have won around 900 medals in different women's sports at several events, replacing female athletes.


Lucky ass. We've got enough problems locked down that we get to put all our energy into college volleyball. Awesome!.


Complete inability to see how change happens. It's okay if just a few women are discriminated against, right? It's not happening that much? Just volleyball. Don't you see what that signifies? We are so close to eliminating the rights women were provided by Title IX that it's frightening. Those rights are far more at risk than "reproductive rights," but this election and young women on the left have reduced us all to our uteruses. The issues are far greater than a few men in the women's locker room or playing on volleyball teams--but these are the signs and people like you are choosing to ignore them so you can look virtuous. Erasing women is not a virtue.


Get a life. you're putting the entire country through hell over a non-issue


Not PP but this attitude is exactly why you lost the presidency and congress. Telling voters their concerns are a “non issue” is condescending and backfires.


But why don't you go and tell that to my niece who was raped and lost a year of college. Explain to her why this guy has to sit in the oval office and she's struggling to finish college. And there's plenty more like her. Way way more like her than trans athletes that ever stepped out on a field.


So sorry honey and sorry to the several hundred thousand others like you every single year. I know that was really brutal and disorienting and fundamentally altered your life, but San Jose State volleyball is more important. Suck it up Buttercup


What does this niece have to do with the San Jose volleyball players being told to risk their safety playing men?


Let’s see if Trump bans her. We all know she will continue to play and you will seethe. The rich liberals on this board will be talking about their extravagant trips to Europe on their tax savings and doubling home prices in DC while the Republicans continue to get fatter, need more healthcare that they can’t afford, and rage about the transgenders. The truth hurts.


The NCAA has entered an agreement that will basically roll back the clock for female athletes by decades. Biden wants to add men who think they're women into the coverage of this very much endangered law. But sure, go ahead and keep telling us it's just about one young man smashing the heads of female atheletes, so it's okay to just accept it.



Trump is the president in a couple of months. Tell me, when do you expect action on transgenders in sports? Please, by all means, give me a date or at least a time frame because I don’t think Trump is going to do it. I do think that he will give the DCUM crowd tax cuts to buy second homes and third luxury cars (he’s talking about being able to write-off interest on car purchases lol).


Dems are already realigning. A few Dem politicians have already denouncing bathroom gender neutrality, and in regards to migrant welfare, NYC has announced they’ll stop the debit card program to illegal immigrants. No more 13,000 dollars in food stamp give always. They know the fed government is going to defund it all in a few months.

Things are already moving quickly and fast. Trump will hopefully end the wars just as fast. You must admit he has a way of getting people in line.

A Harris and Walz administration would’ve been four long years of the Biden administration part 2. Americans do not want that


So you admit he won’t do anything about transgenders. Got it lol.


biden did a great job! america really embraced these people



I sincerely want to know, how did these people affect your life? and not only that, how did they affect it so badly, that anything else paled by comparison?


BS. My progressive cousin pulled the same stupid argument you are trying to pull, except with illegal immigrants.

Those people affected my life because they popped up all over my own kids social media.

To my kids, those two individuals were passed off by social media as “normal.” Normal, or course, normally means: the majority; most; not out of the ordinary.

But they are not ordinary. Transgender people are 0.08 % of the population (give or take). Transgender people are NOT the norm. They are not even a minority; they are a tiny fraction of the population of our democracy (democracy meaning: representational rule by the majority).

So how does a fraction of one percent of the population deserve 90% of our national attention? (hint: they don’t).

These people affected my life by playing victim, fooling a vast number of voters, and nearly boosting Kamala into the POTUS position.

Enough with identity politics! Enough with dividing Americans instead of uniting us. Enough with the stupid “victim-hood olympics” progressives continually push.

We are buying your BS any longer, PP.
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Anonymous wrote: I am a middle aged Catholic married mother. Trying to be empathetic to people who are not “normies” is not too much of an ask for me. However, I will never be ok with a felon, racist, thief, rapist as president.


It’s moved well beyond “empathy” when we are asked to allow biological male bodies on our girls’ sports team and into their restrooms.


I'm far more worried about hetero men around me and my daughter than any trans person.

And this is just not happening -men in women's bathrooms and teams- on any significant level. And even it if were, it could be handled to find a solution that wasn't demonizing people and without cruelty. But as usual, MAGA is not capable of that.

Do you never use a unisex bathroom, btw?


It absolutely is happening at a significant level. Look at the boycotts of collegiate women, willing to lose games rather than risk their safety playing against male bodies. Look at the firing of the coaches speaking up for their female players. Look at the two winners of the female boxing category at the Olympics. You can bury your head in the sand or you can open your eyes.



I have college athletes on my own and I've been to countless athletic events in college and elsewhere. This is not a thing. Youth sports, college sports, high school sports. They are rolling along as the billion dollar business that they are . relax


The left always starts with denial before moving to “it’s not happening at all significant level” to “it’s happening and it’s a good thing”.

Tell the San Jose state volleyball team that they didn’t boycott a game for fear of their safety. Tell the coach that she wasn’t suspended - well actually, address the title ix lawsuit she just fired. Her name is Melissa Smoose.

According to the UN report, "Violence Against Women and Girls in Sports," transgender athletes have won around 900 medals in different women's sports at several events, replacing female athletes.


Lucky ass. We've got enough problems locked down that we get to put all our energy into college volleyball. Awesome!.


Complete inability to see how change happens. It's okay if just a few women are discriminated against, right? It's not happening that much? Just volleyball. Don't you see what that signifies? We are so close to eliminating the rights women were provided by Title IX that it's frightening. Those rights are far more at risk than "reproductive rights," but this election and young women on the left have reduced us all to our uteruses. The issues are far greater than a few men in the women's locker room or playing on volleyball teams--but these are the signs and people like you are choosing to ignore them so you can look virtuous. Erasing women is not a virtue.


Get a life. you're putting the entire country through hell over a non-issue


Not PP but this attitude is exactly why you lost the presidency and congress. Telling voters their concerns are a “non issue” is condescending and backfires.


But why don't you go and tell that to my niece who was raped and lost a year of college. Explain to her why this guy has to sit in the oval office and she's struggling to finish college. And there's plenty more like her. Way way more like her than trans athletes that ever stepped out on a field.


So sorry honey and sorry to the several hundred thousand others like you every single year. I know that was really brutal and disorienting and fundamentally altered your life, but San Jose State volleyball is more important. Suck it up Buttercup


What does this niece have to do with the San Jose volleyball players being told to risk their safety playing men?


Let’s see if Trump bans her. We all know she will continue to play and you will seethe. The rich liberals on this board will be talking about their extravagant trips to Europe on their tax savings and doubling home prices in DC while the Republicans continue to get fatter, need more healthcare that they can’t afford, and rage about the transgenders. The truth hurts.


The NCAA has entered an agreement that will basically roll back the clock for female athletes by decades. Biden wants to add men who think they're women into the coverage of this very much endangered law. But sure, go ahead and keep telling us it's just about one young man smashing the heads of female atheletes, so it's okay to just accept it.



Trump is the president in a couple of months. Tell me, when do you expect action on transgenders in sports? Please, by all means, give me a date or at least a time frame because I don’t think Trump is going to do it. I do think that he will give the DCUM crowd tax cuts to buy second homes and third luxury cars (he’s talking about being able to write-off interest on car purchases lol).


Dems are already realigning. A few Dem politicians have already denouncing bathroom gender neutrality, and in regards to migrant welfare, NYC has announced they’ll stop the debit card program to illegal immigrants. No more 13,000 dollars in food stamp give always. They know the fed government is going to defund it all in a few months.

Things are already moving quickly and fast. Trump will hopefully end the wars just as fast. You must admit he has a way of getting people in line.

A Harris and Walz administration would’ve been four long years of the Biden administration part 2. Americans do not want that


So you admit he won’t do anything about transgenders. Got it lol.


biden did a great job! america really embraced these people



I sincerely want to know, how did these people affect your life? and not only that, how did they affect it so badly, that anything else paled by comparison?


BS. My progressive cousin pulled the same stupid argument you are trying to pull, except with illegal immigrants.

Those people affected my life because they popped up all over my own kids social media.

To my kids, those two individuals were passed off by social media as “normal.” Normal, or course, normally means: the majority; most; not out of the ordinary.

But they are not ordinary. Transgender people are 0.08 % of the population (give or take). Transgender people are NOT the norm. They are not even a minority; they are a tiny fraction of the population of our democracy (democracy meaning: representational rule by the majority).

So how does a fraction of one percent of the population deserve 90% of our national attention? (hint: they don’t).

These people affected my life by playing victim, fooling a vast number of voters, and nearly boosting Kamala into the POTUS position.

Enough with identity politics! Enough with dividing Americans instead of uniting us. Enough with the stupid “victim-hood olympics” progressives continually push.

We are buying your BS any longer, PP.


And I meant to add: while I was referring to the two transgender Biden officials / DEI appointments pictured about, my kids’ public school budget has suffered because the county dumped all the money into ESOL services for the illegal alien kids, and the US citizen kids of illegal immigrants, who would not be here, but for Harris/biden’s open-border policies.

So yes - those groups of people do affect my life, as well as yours.
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Anonymous wrote: I am a middle aged Catholic married mother. Trying to be empathetic to people who are not “normies” is not too much of an ask for me. However, I will never be ok with a felon, racist, thief, rapist as president.


It’s moved well beyond “empathy” when we are asked to allow biological male bodies on our girls’ sports team and into their restrooms.


I'm far more worried about hetero men around me and my daughter than any trans person.

And this is just not happening -men in women's bathrooms and teams- on any significant level. And even it if were, it could be handled to find a solution that wasn't demonizing people and without cruelty. But as usual, MAGA is not capable of that.

Do you never use a unisex bathroom, btw?


It absolutely is happening at a significant level. Look at the boycotts of collegiate women, willing to lose games rather than risk their safety playing against male bodies. Look at the firing of the coaches speaking up for their female players. Look at the two winners of the female boxing category at the Olympics. You can bury your head in the sand or you can open your eyes.



I have college athletes on my own and I've been to countless athletic events in college and elsewhere. This is not a thing. Youth sports, college sports, high school sports. They are rolling along as the billion dollar business that they are . relax


The left always starts with denial before moving to “it’s not happening at all significant level” to “it’s happening and it’s a good thing”.

Tell the San Jose state volleyball team that they didn’t boycott a game for fear of their safety. Tell the coach that she wasn’t suspended - well actually, address the title ix lawsuit she just fired. Her name is Melissa Smoose.

According to the UN report, "Violence Against Women and Girls in Sports," transgender athletes have won around 900 medals in different women's sports at several events, replacing female athletes.


Lucky ass. We've got enough problems locked down that we get to put all our energy into college volleyball. Awesome!.


Complete inability to see how change happens. It's okay if just a few women are discriminated against, right? It's not happening that much? Just volleyball. Don't you see what that signifies? We are so close to eliminating the rights women were provided by Title IX that it's frightening. Those rights are far more at risk than "reproductive rights," but this election and young women on the left have reduced us all to our uteruses. The issues are far greater than a few men in the women's locker room or playing on volleyball teams--but these are the signs and people like you are choosing to ignore them so you can look virtuous. Erasing women is not a virtue.


Get a life. you're putting the entire country through hell over a non-issue


Not PP but this attitude is exactly why you lost the presidency and congress. Telling voters their concerns are a “non issue” is condescending and backfires.


But why don't you go and tell that to my niece who was raped and lost a year of college. Explain to her why this guy has to sit in the oval office and she's struggling to finish college. And there's plenty more like her. Way way more like her than trans athletes that ever stepped out on a field.


So sorry honey and sorry to the several hundred thousand others like you every single year. I know that was really brutal and disorienting and fundamentally altered your life, but San Jose State volleyball is more important. Suck it up Buttercup


What does this niece have to do with the San Jose volleyball players being told to risk their safety playing men?


Let’s see if Trump bans her. We all know she will continue to play and you will seethe. The rich liberals on this board will be talking about their extravagant trips to Europe on their tax savings and doubling home prices in DC while the Republicans continue to get fatter, need more healthcare that they can’t afford, and rage about the transgenders. The truth hurts.


The NCAA has entered an agreement that will basically roll back the clock for female athletes by decades. Biden wants to add men who think they're women into the coverage of this very much endangered law. But sure, go ahead and keep telling us it's just about one young man smashing the heads of female atheletes, so it's okay to just accept it.



Trump is the president in a couple of months. Tell me, when do you expect action on transgenders in sports? Please, by all means, give me a date or at least a time frame because I don’t think Trump is going to do it. I do think that he will give the DCUM crowd tax cuts to buy second homes and third luxury cars (he’s talking about being able to write-off interest on car purchases lol).


Trump has said that he will prepare and sign an executive order immediately after he takes office.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4936727-trump-bans-transgender-athletes/amp/



LOL. I think sports will be the least of concerns, but ok. Are you sure it's not on the same timeline as the healthcare plan?


We shall see.

A ban on transwomen in women’s sports would be wildly popular. Trump has a very good sense of what is popular.

At a minimum he is going to yank the ridiculous Title 9 changes pushed by Biden (I will never forget the life of me understand why Biden did that in an election year). But I think Trump’s EO will go further.

You clearly have no idea how universally loathed the Democratic position on this issue is.


The fact that you think people are caring about this will be this admin's undoing. The election was about inflation and your head will spin at how fast things will turn against you.



The election was about two things: inflation AND social issues.


Keep telling yourself that


I voted for Harris you ninny. For me those issues paled in importance to everything else. But I'm a globalist Washingtonian.

To the electorate at large they mattered. And it's obvious that they mattered. Did you really think that alienating normies was a winning strategy? Why weren't those more important issues more important to you? Indentity politics by its very nature creates an us versus them binary.
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Anonymous wrote:Listen, Trump voters don’t have mental capacity to think large or think ahead.

A man participating in a women Olympics is more important than our environment going down the toilet, more important than lack of affordable healthcare or the crap mass food production.

Modern Americans are obese and sickly and will have much shorter life span, but sure let’s focus on gender bathrooms.
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I don't think for most of us the main objection is the trans advantage in women's sports. I'm a teacher and for several years now we've been counseled against saying boys and girls in favor of more "gender inclusive" language. When visiting colleges with my daughters, the presenters would always begin by announcing their pronouns.

This is the kind of shift that most Americans find deeply troubling and quite frankly inane. This is our society, our culture, what the left is trying to push on us as normal. It's not just conservative that are fed up with this. It's really the norm among the majority although people are reluctant to speak openly about it. I know quite a few left leaning if not liberal people who have grumbled about feeling like they now need to add their pronouns to their work emails. Even my college daughter who is definitely a democrat says she feels like she needs to add her pronouns to her socials even though she thinks it's rather silly. I truly don't think the left realizes how much this stuff has alienated the majority of Americans.




Wait, so you’re alienated by adding pronouns to social media so others are clear on what you want to be called vs the rise in hate speech that’s being allowed and encouraged?


It’s a national refusal to play pretend with mentally ill people anymore. I have no problem with trans people in general. Unfortunately they’re already a fringe community that was then plagued with an even more fringe community of mentally unstable people seeking a place in society. I’ve seen countless trans individuals express their frustration with the situation.



The frustration is real. I am a libertarian-leaning republican and I personally don’t care what adults do / how they want to dress / who they date or marry, etc.

But a good friend, who is a gay man, told me how frustrated he is after recently re-joining the online dating community. Not sure which dating site he tired (might have been grinder or tinder? I do not recall), but:

- the site refuses to “discriminate on biological sex.” Therefore, my friend ended up initially communicating with a biological WOMAN who identifies as male.

He only wants to date men! What’s wrong with that?

Why can’t my gay male friend choose to meet only other biological men?

It’s ridiculous. And it’s an outgrowth of the whole “woke movement” nonsense which Kamala Harris spoke about publicly, and backed fully.


So you take that up with Grinder, a privately run company. But you don't elect a sexual assaulter, convicted felon, lying grifter to run our country because his dating app experience isn't up to snuff. And the Dems are supposed to be so out of touch?? Good lord. Your skins are so razor thin.


I mean, the Democrats pretty much are objectively out of touch. That seems pretty incontrovertible at this point, yes?


Sure, but I can hold my head high and say I didn't vote based on a dating app experience of a friend of mine.
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Anonymous wrote:Listen, Trump voters don’t have mental capacity to think large or think ahead.

A man participating in a women Olympics is more important than our environment going down the toilet, more important than lack of affordable healthcare or the crap mass food production.

Modern Americans are obese and sickly and will have much shorter life span, but sure let’s focus on gender bathrooms.
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I don't think for most of us the main objection is the trans advantage in women's sports. I'm a teacher and for several years now we've been counseled against saying boys and girls in favor of more "gender inclusive" language. When visiting colleges with my daughters, the presenters would always begin by announcing their pronouns.

This is the kind of shift that most Americans find deeply troubling and quite frankly inane. This is our society, our culture, what the left is trying to push on us as normal. It's not just conservative that are fed up with this. It's really the norm among the majority although people are reluctant to speak openly about it. I know quite a few left leaning if not liberal people who have grumbled about feeling like they now need to add their pronouns to their work emails. Even my college daughter who is definitely a democrat says she feels like she needs to add her pronouns to her socials even though she thinks it's rather silly. I truly don't think the left realizes how much this stuff has alienated the majority of Americans.




Wait, so you’re alienated by adding pronouns to social media so others are clear on what you want to be called vs the rise in hate speech that’s being allowed and encouraged?


It’s a national refusal to play pretend with mentally ill people anymore. I have no problem with trans people in general. Unfortunately they’re already a fringe community that was then plagued with an even more fringe community of mentally unstable people seeking a place in society. I’ve seen countless trans individuals express their frustration with the situation.


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The problem is that in the eugenics moment it was the white women who were deemed feebleminded and housed in institutions. I don’t think the “mentally unstable” slippery slope is one women should be so eager to jump on.


“Hey, little lady, that’s some nice independent thinking you’ve got. You wouldn’t want to see that go away, would you? Better agree with us completely that transwomen are women, don’t you think?”

People voted against you precisely because they are sick of people like you threatening them exactly like you just did.


It’s true my womanhood isn’t threatened by trans women, like my marriage isn’t threatened by gay marriage. I’m a history buff is all. I’m taking Trump at face value, while many people clearly are not. When he said he wants to deport the mentally deranged, I point out that white women were considered that only 100 years ago. But, your tone is very misogynistic with the “little lady” which you could also tone down.
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Anonymous wrote:Listen, Trump voters don’t have mental capacity to think large or think ahead.

A man participating in a women Olympics is more important than our environment going down the toilet, more important than lack of affordable healthcare or the crap mass food production.

Modern Americans are obese and sickly and will have much shorter life span, but sure let’s focus on gender bathrooms.
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I don't think for most of us the main objection is the trans advantage in women's sports. I'm a teacher and for several years now we've been counseled against saying boys and girls in favor of more "gender inclusive" language. When visiting colleges with my daughters, the presenters would always begin by announcing their pronouns.

This is the kind of shift that most Americans find deeply troubling and quite frankly inane. This is our society, our culture, what the left is trying to push on us as normal. It's not just conservative that are fed up with this. It's really the norm among the majority although people are reluctant to speak openly about it. I know quite a few left leaning if not liberal people who have grumbled about feeling like they now need to add their pronouns to their work emails. Even my college daughter who is definitely a democrat says she feels like she needs to add her pronouns to her socials even though she thinks it's rather silly. I truly don't think the left realizes how much this stuff has alienated the majority of Americans.




Wait, so you’re alienated by adding pronouns to social media so others are clear on what you want to be called vs the rise in hate speech that’s being allowed and encouraged?


It’s a national refusal to play pretend with mentally ill people anymore. I have no problem with trans people in general. Unfortunately they’re already a fringe community that was then plagued with an even more fringe community of mentally unstable people seeking a place in society. I’ve seen countless trans individuals express their frustration with the situation.


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The problem is that in the eugenics moment it was the white women who were deemed feebleminded and housed in institutions. I don’t think the “mentally unstable” slippery slope is one women should be so eager to jump on.


“Hey, little lady, that’s some nice independent thinking you’ve got. You wouldn’t want to see that go away, would you? Better agree with us completely that transwomen are women, don’t you think?”

People voted against you precisely because they are sick of people like you threatening them exactly like you just did.


I am really am horrified that men literally are insisting that I have to call them women. And to further clarify, I, the woman, must actually refer to myself as a ciswoman. But the conservatives are the problem? The ones who just want to live and let live?


You misread. I agree with you. The person threatening women that they will go into insane asylums if we don’t chant “transwomen are women” does not. That PP was threatening women who disagree with gender ideology.
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Anonymous wrote:Listen, Trump voters don’t have mental capacity to think large or think ahead.

A man participating in a women Olympics is more important than our environment going down the toilet, more important than lack of affordable healthcare or the crap mass food production.

Modern Americans are obese and sickly and will have much shorter life span, but sure let’s focus on gender bathrooms.
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I don't think for most of us the main objection is the trans advantage in women's sports. I'm a teacher and for several years now we've been counseled against saying boys and girls in favor of more "gender inclusive" language. When visiting colleges with my daughters, the presenters would always begin by announcing their pronouns.

This is the kind of shift that most Americans find deeply troubling and quite frankly inane. This is our society, our culture, what the left is trying to push on us as normal. It's not just conservative that are fed up with this. It's really the norm among the majority although people are reluctant to speak openly about it. I know quite a few left leaning if not liberal people who have grumbled about feeling like they now need to add their pronouns to their work emails. Even my college daughter who is definitely a democrat says she feels like she needs to add her pronouns to her socials even though she thinks it's rather silly. I truly don't think the left realizes how much this stuff has alienated the majority of Americans.




Wait, so you’re alienated by adding pronouns to social media so others are clear on what you want to be called vs the rise in hate speech that’s being allowed and encouraged?


It’s a national refusal to play pretend with mentally ill people anymore. I have no problem with trans people in general. Unfortunately they’re already a fringe community that was then plagued with an even more fringe community of mentally unstable people seeking a place in society. I’ve seen countless trans individuals express their frustration with the situation.


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The problem is that in the eugenics moment it was the white women who were deemed feebleminded and housed in institutions. I don’t think the “mentally unstable” slippery slope is one women should be so eager to jump on.


“Hey, little lady, that’s some nice independent thinking you’ve got. You wouldn’t want to see that go away, would you? Better agree with us completely that transwomen are women, don’t you think?”

People voted against you precisely because they are sick of people like you threatening them exactly like you just did.


It’s true my womanhood isn’t threatened by trans women, like my marriage isn’t threatened by gay marriage. I’m a history buff is all. I’m taking Trump at face value, while many people clearly are not. When he said he wants to deport the mentally deranged, I point out that white women were considered that only 100 years ago. But, your tone is very misogynistic with the “little lady” which you could also tone down.


That’s your tone. I was just rephrasing what you actually meant. You are threatening women who don’t line up behind you on gender ideology.

And yes, trans activists absolutely think of biological woman as less than human. It’s a wildly misogynistic movement.
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This thread is the embodiment of how American exceptionalism was always a myth, and social media has destroyed our country.

Trump voters are incensed about trans gender because it constantly pops up on their social media. They think it’s normalized and that their kids are going to change genders. The GOP created and is fueling this identity crap. It’s your own party dummies. This started with the Michelle Duggar robo calls that men were going to use women’s bathrooms. Most people were like WTF and who cares.

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Anonymous wrote:Listen, Trump voters don’t have mental capacity to think large or think ahead.

A man participating in a women Olympics is more important than our environment going down the toilet, more important than lack of affordable healthcare or the crap mass food production.

Modern Americans are obese and sickly and will have much shorter life span, but sure let’s focus on gender bathrooms.
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I don't think for most of us the main objection is the trans advantage in women's sports. I'm a teacher and for several years now we've been counseled against saying boys and girls in favor of more "gender inclusive" language. When visiting colleges with my daughters, the presenters would always begin by announcing their pronouns.

This is the kind of shift that most Americans find deeply troubling and quite frankly inane. This is our society, our culture, what the left is trying to push on us as normal. It's not just conservative that are fed up with this. It's really the norm among the majority although people are reluctant to speak openly about it. I know quite a few left leaning if not liberal people who have grumbled about feeling like they now need to add their pronouns to their work emails. Even my college daughter who is definitely a democrat says she feels like she needs to add her pronouns to her socials even though she thinks it's rather silly. I truly don't think the left realizes how much this stuff has alienated the majority of Americans.




Wait, so you’re alienated by adding pronouns to social media so others are clear on what you want to be called vs the rise in hate speech that’s being allowed and encouraged?


It’s a national refusal to play pretend with mentally ill people anymore. I have no problem with trans people in general. Unfortunately they’re already a fringe community that was then plagued with an even more fringe community of mentally unstable people seeking a place in society. I’ve seen countless trans individuals express their frustration with the situation.


+1


The problem is that in the eugenics moment it was the white women who were deemed feebleminded and housed in institutions. I don’t think the “mentally unstable” slippery slope is one women should be so eager to jump on.


“Hey, little lady, that’s some nice independent thinking you’ve got. You wouldn’t want to see that go away, would you? Better agree with us completely that transwomen are women, don’t you think?”

People voted against you precisely because they are sick of people like you threatening them exactly like you just did.


I am really am horrified that men literally are insisting that I have to call them women. And to further clarify, I, the woman, must actually refer to myself as a ciswoman. But the conservatives are the problem? The ones who just want to live and let live?


You misread. I agree with you. The person threatening women that they will go into insane asylums if we don’t chant “transwomen are women” does not. That PP was threatening women who disagree with gender ideology.


No no, I got that. I should have been more clear. My post was in agreement. The other poster does not see womanhood as threatened by men who go to extreme lengths to parody women and parade around with what they know are the most exagerrated aspects of womanhood and we are excoriated if we don't publicly say "transwomen are women." Oh, except there's no such thing as women, just transwomen or ciswomen.
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Anonymous wrote:Both sides have “crazies” and most of us know who those people are. Most voters despise the crazies on the both sides.

The R’s did a better job of “marginalizing the crazies” (however you want to define that) in their party - at least THIS time around.

D’s let their crazies set the agenda this time around with very little pushback.

Hence the result.



Um, have you met their POTUS candidate?
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Anonymous wrote:This thread is the embodiment of how American exceptionalism was always a myth, and social media has destroyed our country.

Trump voters are incensed about trans gender because it constantly pops up on their social media. They think it’s normalized and that their kids are going to change genders. The GOP created and is fueling this identity crap. It’s your own party dummies. This started with the Michelle Duggar robo calls that men were going to use women’s bathrooms. Most people were like WTF and who cares.



Also, we should talk about class, especially the chasm between working class and upper class.
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