Why did Biden work to free Brittney Griner but not these men?

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Anonymous wrote:What proof do you have that they aren't working on it?


Yesterday in response to the above I posted the message below - can’t remember the exact words but this is basically it:

If they are working on it, they are doing so incompetently given that these individuals have been held longer in a friendly country than Griner was held in an unfriendly country.

And my post was then deleted by the moderator. People can agree or disagree with my opinion but I really don’t understand what is objectionable about this post. The efforts of the board moderator to protect Democrats are truly puzzling at times.



They are staying in an Airbnb. Do you see any difference?


They are detained in the country and unable to be with their families. And threatened with 12 years of imprisonment. For a crime that, as nearly as we can tell, was an accident and harmed nobody. And yet many on this board would rather slug themselves in the face than simply admit how ridiculous that is.

First it’s the bullets. Next it is parts that you can assemble to make a gun. In the end America has imported their gun fanatics to T & C.
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All of Bidens acts are shaped by politics. One of these detention scenarios advances the left’s political narrative, and one does not. He acted predictably.
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Anonymous wrote:If you're careless enough to "accidentally" leave lethal ammunitions in your luggage, then we don't need you in America.


Intellects like this should be exported.... holy crap the dumb.
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Anonymous wrote:I want to know how TSA missed the bullets, that's my main interest

Because it’s an imperfect system. Lots of things get pass tsa.


You’re allowed to have bullets in your checked bag. It’s not TSA’s job to tell you the laws of the country you’re traveling to. Personal responsibility and responsible gun ownership, right conservatives?
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Anonymous wrote:I want to know how TSA missed the bullets, that's my main interest


This.
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THIS.

"This" what? You think the TSA conspired with Joe Biden to set up two completely random idiots in Turks & Caicos?


It’s ok to bring bullets in your checked luggage, isn’t it? It’s not TSA’s job to know if that’s allowed on the country you’re traveling to. It’s yours. Personal responsibility.


Hold up.. we can have bullets in our luggage? We can fly with bullets? Seriously?

Bullets are harmless without a gun.


No they are not specially loose rounds.


No that is a myth, this may exceed your intellectual capacity, but here goes... If you are somehow able to set off a loose round the majority of the chemical energy will be expelled into the large environment that contains the loose bullet, like a room or a bag or whatever. The energy will not propel the bullet like you see with a gun. Worst case a burn, very unlikely to ignite the environment, unless extremely flamible. So bottom line- you need the gun.
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Anonymous wrote:Because it’s Turks & Caicos, not Russia. It is against the law to have firearms or ammunition there.


But the vape cartridge was against the law in Russia. Why respect one country’s laws but not another?


Oh are we taking Russia’s word for it?

Griner herself admitted she had marijuana on her.


She had a CBD vape pen.


No it was regular THC cannabis not CBD. Get the basic facts straight maybe?


It was doctor prescribed cannabis oil.

https://www.npr.org/2022/07/15/1111731127/brittney-griner-cannabis-russia-trial

Maybe stop trying to paint her as some kind of junkie.


It’s hard to argue with stupid. Please try to follow along:

- pp said “CBD vape pen” in an attempt to minimize/excuse her stupid actions
- I corrected that inaccuracy with the fact that the oil was plain old THC that gets you high not just CBD
- then you confirmed my posted facts but don’t seem to comprehend what you are talking about

I fully support cannabis legalization and use but to pretend that she was carrying anything less than a full potency cape cart is disingenuous at best. I have been a user for decades so this isn’t about “painting her as a junkie” wtf.


Why are you so focused on whether it’s THC or CBD? I use THC (combined with CBD) for longstanding chronic back pain. Unfortunately CBD does not do the job.
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Anonymous wrote:I want to know how TSA missed the bullets, that's my main interest


This.
Guys.
THIS.

"This" what? You think the TSA conspired with Joe Biden to set up two completely random idiots in Turks & Caicos?


It’s ok to bring bullets in your checked luggage, isn’t it? It’s not TSA’s job to know if that’s allowed on the country you’re traveling to. It’s yours. Personal responsibility.


Hold up.. we can have bullets in our luggage? We can fly with bullets? Seriously?

Bullets are harmless without a gun.


No they are not specially loose rounds.


No that is a myth, this may exceed your intellectual capacity, but here goes... If you are somehow able to set off a loose round the majority of the chemical energy will be expelled into the large environment that contains the loose bullet, like a room or a bag or whatever. The energy will not propel the bullet like you see with a gun. Worst case a burn, very unlikely to ignite the environment, unless extremely flamible. So bottom line- you need the gun.


You really have no experience with ammo. I have seen rounds(specially loose rounds) cook off, fire when the cap hit, go off in the dryer, etc. Guess what? The rounds go through walls, suitcases, dryers, etc.
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Anonymous wrote:I want to know how TSA missed the bullets, that's my main interest


This.
Guys.
THIS.

"This" what? You think the TSA conspired with Joe Biden to set up two completely random idiots in Turks & Caicos?


It’s ok to bring bullets in your checked luggage, isn’t it? It’s not TSA’s job to know if that’s allowed on the country you’re traveling to. It’s yours. Personal responsibility.


Hold up.. we can have bullets in our luggage? We can fly with bullets? Seriously?

Bullets are harmless without a gun.


No they are not specially loose rounds.


No that is a myth, this may exceed your intellectual capacity, but here goes... If you are somehow able to set off a loose round the majority of the chemical energy will be expelled into the large environment that contains the loose bullet, like a room or a bag or whatever. The energy will not propel the bullet like you see with a gun. Worst case a burn, very unlikely to ignite the environment, unless extremely flamible. So bottom line- you need the gun.


You really have no experience with ammo. I have seen rounds(specially loose rounds) cook off, fire when the cap hit, go off in the dryer, etc. Guess what? The rounds go through walls, suitcases, dryers, etc.


OK firefighter shot in face by loose rounds during a house fire:
https://www.firehouse.com/operations-training/news/21110067/tulsa-ok-firefighter-shot-by-ammo-set-off-in-house-fire

Ammunition disposal business explodes after fire begins, with bullets discharging on the scene:
https://abc13.com/montgomery-county-fire-admonition-sparks-flames-warehouse-honea-egypt-rd/13887410/
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Which is more likely:

- The entire Biden administration conspired with T&C to nail two Americans for breaking firearm laws in that country; or

- Two idiots got caught smuggling contraband.

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Anonymous wrote:Because he does not care. He may even support the decision. A president who cared could have them out in an hour.


Reminder: Russia was holding American hostages while Trump was in office and he didn't do shit.


yes, that
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Anonymous wrote:I want to know how TSA missed the bullets, that's my main interest


This.
Guys.
THIS.

"This" what? You think the TSA conspired with Joe Biden to set up two completely random idiots in Turks & Caicos?


It’s ok to bring bullets in your checked luggage, isn’t it? It’s not TSA’s job to know if that’s allowed on the country you’re traveling to. It’s yours. Personal responsibility.


Hold up.. we can have bullets in our luggage? We can fly with bullets? Seriously?

Bullets are harmless without a gun.


No they are not specially loose rounds.


No that is a myth, this may exceed your intellectual capacity, but here goes... If you are somehow able to set off a loose round the majority of the chemical energy will be expelled into the large environment that contains the loose bullet, like a room or a bag or whatever. The energy will not propel the bullet like you see with a gun. Worst case a burn, very unlikely to ignite the environment, unless extremely flamible. So bottom line- you need the gun.



You really have no experience with ammo. I have seen rounds(specially loose rounds) cook off, fire when the cap hit, go off in the dryer, etc. Guess what? The rounds go through walls, suitcases, dryers, etc.


I guarantee i have more experience than you! And you are an idiot.

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Anonymous wrote:I want to know how TSA missed the bullets, that's my main interest


This.
Guys.
THIS.

"This" what? You think the TSA conspired with Joe Biden to set up two completely random idiots in Turks & Caicos?


It’s ok to bring bullets in your checked luggage, isn’t it? It’s not TSA’s job to know if that’s allowed on the country you’re traveling to. It’s yours. Personal responsibility.


Hold up.. we can have bullets in our luggage? We can fly with bullets? Seriously?

Bullets are harmless without a gun.


No they are not specially loose rounds.


No that is a myth, this may exceed your intellectual capacity, but here goes... If you are somehow able to set off a loose round the majority of the chemical energy will be expelled into the large environment that contains the loose bullet, like a room or a bag or whatever. The energy will not propel the bullet like you see with a gun. Worst case a burn, very unlikely to ignite the environment, unless extremely flamible. So bottom line- you need the gun.



You really have no experience with ammo. I have seen rounds(specially loose rounds) cook off, fire when the cap hit, go off in the dryer, etc. Guess what? The rounds go through walls, suitcases, dryers, etc.


I guarantee i have more experience than you! And you are an idiot.



Who cares? T+C isn't some open carry state. It's a British Overseas Territory. If you don't like it, go take your "Free the Two" and "They Only Had Bullets" posters and march in front of the UK Embassy on Mass Ave.
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Anonymous wrote:I want to know how TSA missed the bullets, that's my main interest


This.
Guys.
THIS.

"This" what? You think the TSA conspired with Joe Biden to set up two completely random idiots in Turks & Caicos?


It’s ok to bring bullets in your checked luggage, isn’t it? It’s not TSA’s job to know if that’s allowed on the country you’re traveling to. It’s yours. Personal responsibility.


Hold up.. we can have bullets in our luggage? We can fly with bullets? Seriously?

Bullets are harmless without a gun.


No they are not specially loose rounds.


No that is a myth, this may exceed your intellectual capacity, but here goes... If you are somehow able to set off a loose round the majority of the chemical energy will be expelled into the large environment that contains the loose bullet, like a room or a bag or whatever. The energy will not propel the bullet like you see with a gun. Worst case a burn, very unlikely to ignite the environment, unless extremely flamible. So bottom line- you need the gun.


You really have no experience with ammo. I have seen rounds(specially loose rounds) cook off, fire when the cap hit, go off in the dryer, etc. Guess what? The rounds go through walls, suitcases, dryers, etc.


OK firefighter shot in face by loose rounds during a house fire:
https://www.firehouse.com/operations-training/news/21110067/tulsa-ok-firefighter-shot-by-ammo-set-off-in-house-fire

Ammunition disposal business explodes after fire begins, with bullets discharging on the scene:
https://abc13.com/montgomery-county-fire-admonition-sparks-flames-warehouse-honea-egypt-rd/13887410/


clearly you did not read any of the comments in the posted article from Tulsa - had they been in the gun the firefighter would have been shot and likely killed, Try again.

Second article - you have no idea the state of the ammunition. Rounds just don't explode, even modern smokeless powder does not explode, well unless it is in a gun. Try again.
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Anonymous wrote:I want to know how TSA missed the bullets, that's my main interest


This.
Guys.
THIS.

"This" what? You think the TSA conspired with Joe Biden to set up two completely random idiots in Turks & Caicos?


It’s ok to bring bullets in your checked luggage, isn’t it? It’s not TSA’s job to know if that’s allowed on the country you’re traveling to. It’s yours. Personal responsibility.


Hold up.. we can have bullets in our luggage? We can fly with bullets? Seriously?

Bullets are harmless without a gun.


No they are not specially loose rounds.


No that is a myth, this may exceed your intellectual capacity, but here goes... If you are somehow able to set off a loose round the majority of the chemical energy will be expelled into the large environment that contains the loose bullet, like a room or a bag or whatever. The energy will not propel the bullet like you see with a gun. Worst case a burn, very unlikely to ignite the environment, unless extremely flamible. So bottom line- you need the gun.


So, bottom line, you need to be aware you are leaving the US and know the laws of the country you are traveling to.

Now the state department has a mess on its hands because of some gun nuts who couldn't be bothered to check their bags for ammo before they left the freaking country.
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Anonymous wrote:I want to know how TSA missed the bullets, that's my main interest


This.
Guys.
THIS.

"This" what? You think the TSA conspired with Joe Biden to set up two completely random idiots in Turks & Caicos?


It’s ok to bring bullets in your checked luggage, isn’t it? It’s not TSA’s job to know if that’s allowed on the country you’re traveling to. It’s yours. Personal responsibility.


Hold up.. we can have bullets in our luggage? We can fly with bullets? Seriously?

Bullets are harmless without a gun.


No they are not specially loose rounds.


No that is a myth, this may exceed your intellectual capacity, but here goes... If you are somehow able to set off a loose round the majority of the chemical energy will be expelled into the large environment that contains the loose bullet, like a room or a bag or whatever. The energy will not propel the bullet like you see with a gun. Worst case a burn, very unlikely to ignite the environment, unless extremely flamible. So bottom line- you need the gun.



You really have no experience with ammo. I have seen rounds(specially loose rounds) cook off, fire when the cap hit, go off in the dryer, etc. Guess what? The rounds go through walls, suitcases, dryers, etc.


I guarantee i have more experience than you! And you are an idiot.



Who cares? T+C isn't some open carry state. It's a British Overseas Territory. If you don't like it, go take your "Free the Two" and "They Only Had Bullets" posters and march in front of the UK Embassy on Mass Ave.


I don't care - just keeping things honest for folks reading this - and don't want people to get the wrong information for someone who puts loose ammo in the dryer, then misreports the outcome.
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