Looking at yield at UVA, VT, UMD, G'town, Hopkins, W&M

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Anonymous wrote:The pattern seems to be, the more selective the college, the higher the yield. Kind of makes sense.

Completely obvious.

Also who used restricted EA or ED… to boost their yield (Georgetown for one)

GU accepts lower EA percentage than Regular

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Anonymous wrote:The pattern seems to be, the more selective the college, the higher the yield. Kind of makes sense.

Completely obvious.

Also who used restricted EA or ED… to boost their yield (Georgetown for one)

GU accepts lower EA percentage than Regular

I think what the other person meant was GU restricted EA is to boost yield. But even Caltech is now doing restricted EA.
I think it makes sense not allowing people applying EA when they apply ED somewhere else. Cause if they got in their ED school, they can't take the EA's offer.

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Anonymous wrote:Maryland likely wins on diversity because there are black students who are given educational opportunities than in Virginia. Especially if you compare College Park to Blacksburg. College Park is close to DC and there are in-state students from local counties that could commute if they wanted to. And these students are certainly seeing UMD-CP as a local, attainable college outcome that feels close to home. Even for instate - that's a big difference from driving 4 hours to the mountains - where it's not nearly close to home (and certainly would take more funds).

Virginia has an equivalent in George Mason. It's just as diverse as UMD-BC, and just as close to DC as UMD-CP. And UMD-CP is waaaaay down this list:

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/campus-ethnic-diversity

That list is absolute crap.

Caltech is diverse? Have you been to Caltech? I have. It is not "diverse", not like UMDCP.

https://registrar.caltech.edu/records/enrollment-statistics

44% Asian American
41% White
7% black
19% Hispanic


UMDCP
Asian 24%
Black 13%
Hispanic 11%
White 40%

Is that list only looking at how much or little the white population is to the overall population?

It's kind of funny that you're actually claiming UMDCP is SO much more diverse than CalTech. The numbers are roughly similar, but do go on!

NP...Tad smug aren't we? Regardless, not sure you can compare these student populations. 1,000 undergrads compared to 30,000? Silly.

“Smug”? Simply responding in kind to the poster who called the USNWR rankings “absolute crap.” Enjoy your day!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The pattern seems to be, the more selective the college, the higher the yield. Kind of makes sense.

Completely obvious.

Also who used restricted EA or ED… to boost their yield (Georgetown for one)

Georgetown's only restriction on early action is not applying ED elsewhere. Since Georgetown's RD acceptance rate is typically about the same as its EA acceptance rate, students who want to apply ED somewhere should simply do so and then, if denied, apply RD to Georgetown.

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Anonymous wrote:VT 47,101 applied, 26,923 admitted, acceptance rate 57%, 7,196 enroll, yield of 27%
UVA 50,941 applied, 9,504 admitted, acceptance rate 19%, 4,030 enroll, yield of 42%
UMD 56,637 applied, 25,209 admitted, acceptance rate 45%, 5,783 enroll, yield of 23%
W&M 17,548 applied, 5,741 admitted, acceptance rate 33%,1,619 enroll, yield of 28%
Georgetown 26,638 applied, 3,257 admitted, acceptance rate 12%, 1,574 enroll, yield of 48%
Johns Hopkins 37,826 applied, 2,739 admitted, acceptance rate 7%, 1,405 enroll, yield of 51%

I'm surprised to see VT, UMD and W&M yields so low. It looks like a lot applicants use those schools as a safety.

They aren't safeties, but certainly, in-state students would be wise to have them on their list as targets. Or to be more blunt, in most cases, not applying to one's in-state schools would be dumb.

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W&M looking to bump up yield rate this fall

https://flathatnews.com/2024/02/18/prof-armstrong-says-college-will-be-promoted-to-very-high-research-in-bov-meeting-board-increases-muscarelle-funding/#:~:text=Notably%2C%20the%20College%20will%20initiate%20a%20%E2%80%9CYield%20Optimization%20Pilot%E2%80%9D%20in%20partnership%20with%20Encoura%2C%20an%20online%20marketing%20firm%20that%20collaborates%20with%20post%2Dsecondary%20institutions%20to%20boost%20prospective%20student%20engagement.%C2%A0

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Anonymous wrote:VT 47,101 applied, 26,923 admitted, acceptance rate 57%, 7,196 enroll, yield of 27%
UVA 50,941 applied, 9,504 admitted, acceptance rate 19%, 4,030 enroll, yield of 42%
UMD 56,637 applied, 25,209 admitted, acceptance rate 45%, 5,783 enroll, yield of 23%
W&M 17,548 applied, 5,741 admitted, acceptance rate 33%,1,619 enroll, yield of 28%
Georgetown 26,638 applied, 3,257 admitted, acceptance rate 12%, 1,574 enroll, yield of 48%
Johns Hopkins 37,826 applied, 2,739 admitted, acceptance rate 7%, 1,405 enroll, yield of 51%

I'm surprised to see VT, UMD and W&M yields so low. It looks like a lot applicants use those schools as a safety.

They aren't safeties, but certainly, in-state students would be wise to have them on their list as targets. Or to be more blunt, in most cases, not applying to one's in-state schools would be dumb.

Yield doesn't seem to be a good way of looking at selectivity and whether it is a safety. Why not look at stats? That is a much more direct indicator. If you are below a certain point on the stats, it is not a safety for you.

W&M enrolled = 1510/1450/1360 for SAT and 34/33/32 for ACT.
VT enrolled = 1410/1330/1250 for SAT and 32/30/27 for ACT
UMD enrolled = 1510/1440/1370 for SAT and 34/33/31 for ACT.

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Anonymous wrote:W&M looking to bump up yield rate this fall

https://flathatnews.com/2024/02/18/prof-armstrong-says-college-will-be-promoted-to-very-high-research-in-bov-meeting-board-increases-muscarelle-funding/#:~:text=Notably%2C%20the%20College%20will%20initiate%20a%20%E2%80%9CYield%20Optimization%20Pilot%E2%80%9D%20in%20partnership%20with%20Encoura%2C%20an%20online%20marketing%20firm%20that%20collaborates%20with%20post%2Dsecondary%20institutions%20to%20boost%20prospective%20student%20engagement.%C2%A0

So, yield protection in another form.

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Anonymous wrote:W&M looking to bump up yield rate this fall

https://flathatnews.com/2024/02/18/prof-armstrong-says-college-will-be-promoted-to-very-high-research-in-bov-meeting-board-increases-muscarelle-funding/#:~:text=Notably%2C%20the%20College%20will%20initiate%20a%20%E2%80%9CYield%20Optimization%20Pilot%E2%80%9D%20in%20partnership%20with%20Encoura%2C%20an%20online%20marketing%20firm%20that%20collaborates%20with%20post%2Dsecondary%20institutions%20to%20boost%20prospective%20student%20engagement.%C2%A0

So, yield protection in another form.

Yield management = trying to keep applicants and accepted students happy. Yield protection = rejecting those who are likely to reject you.

All schools do some form of yield management.

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Anonymous wrote:W&M looking to bump up yield rate this fall

https://flathatnews.com/2024/02/18/prof-armstrong-says-college-will-be-promoted-to-very-high-research-in-bov-meeting-board-increases-muscarelle-funding/#:~:text=Notably%2C%20the%20College%20will%20initiate%20a%20%E2%80%9CYield%20Optimization%20Pilot%E2%80%9D%20in%20partnership%20with%20Encoura%2C%20an%20online%20marketing%20firm%20that%20collaborates%20with%20post%2Dsecondary%20institutions%20to%20boost%20prospective%20student%20engagement.%C2%A0

So, yield protection in another form.

They'll probably reject more applicants than usual during RD, but I wouldn't go as far as to call it YP.

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Anonymous wrote:W&M looking to bump up yield rate this fall

https://flathatnews.com/2024/02/18/prof-armstrong-says-college-will-be-promoted-to-very-high-research-in-bov-meeting-board-increases-muscarelle-funding/#:~:text=Notably%2C%20the%20College%20will%20initiate%20a%20%E2%80%9CYield%20Optimization%20Pilot%E2%80%9D%20in%20partnership%20with%20Encoura%2C%20an%20online%20marketing%20firm%20that%20collaborates%20with%20post%2Dsecondary%20institutions%20to%20boost%20prospective%20student%20engagement.%C2%A0

So, yield protection in another form.

Yield management = trying to keep applicants and accepted students happy. Yield protection = rejecting those who are likely to reject you.

All schools do some form of yield management.

Sure.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:W&M looking to bump up yield rate this fall

https://flathatnews.com/2024/02/18/prof-armstrong-says-college-will-be-promoted-to-very-high-research-in-bov-meeting-board-increases-muscarelle-funding/#:~:text=Notably%2C%20the%20College%20will%20initiate%20a%20%E2%80%9CYield%20Optimization%20Pilot%E2%80%9D%20in%20partnership%20with%20Encoura%2C%20an%20online%20marketing%20firm%20that%20collaborates%20with%20post%2Dsecondary%20institutions%20to%20boost%20prospective%20student%20engagement.%C2%A0

So, yield protection in another form.

They'll probably reject more applicants than usual during RD, but I wouldn't go as far as to call it YP.

Why not? That’s what DCUM calls it whenever any school does this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:W&M looking to bump up yield rate this fall

https://flathatnews.com/2024/02/18/prof-armstrong-says-college-will-be-promoted-to-very-high-research-in-bov-meeting-board-increases-muscarelle-funding/#:~:text=Notably%2C%20the%20College%20will%20initiate%20a%20%E2%80%9CYield%20Optimization%20Pilot%E2%80%9D%20in%20partnership%20with%20Encoura%2C%20an%20online%20marketing%20firm%20that%20collaborates%20with%20post%2Dsecondary%20institutions%20to%20boost%20prospective%20student%20engagement.%C2%A0

So, yield protection in another form.

Yield management = trying to keep applicants and accepted students happy. Yield protection = rejecting those who are likely to reject you.

All schools do some form of yield management.

Sure.

What part of the proceeding was incorrect?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:W&M looking to bump up yield rate this fall

https://flathatnews.com/2024/02/18/prof-armstrong-says-college-will-be-promoted-to-very-high-research-in-bov-meeting-board-increases-muscarelle-funding/#:~:text=Notably%2C%20the%20College%20will%20initiate%20a%20%E2%80%9CYield%20Optimization%20Pilot%E2%80%9D%20in%20partnership%20with%20Encoura%2C%20an%20online%20marketing%20firm%20that%20collaborates%20with%20post%2Dsecondary%20institutions%20to%20boost%20prospective%20student%20engagement.%C2%A0

So, yield protection in another form.

Yield management = trying to keep applicants and accepted students happy. Yield protection = rejecting those who are likely to reject you.

All schools do some form of yield management.

Sure.

What part of the proceeding was incorrect?

^preceding

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Anonymous wrote:Maryland likely wins on diversity because there are black students who are given educational opportunities than in Virginia. Especially if you compare College Park to Blacksburg. College Park is close to DC and there are in-state students from local counties that could commute if they wanted to. And these students are certainly seeing UMD-CP as a local, attainable college outcome that feels close to home. Even for instate - that's a big difference from driving 4 hours to the mountains - where it's not nearly close to home (and certainly would take more funds).

Virginia has an equivalent in George Mason. It's just as diverse as UMD-BC, and just as close to DC as UMD-CP. And UMD-CP is waaaaay down this list:

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/campus-ethnic-diversity

That list is absolute crap.

Caltech is diverse? Have you been to Caltech? I have. It is not "diverse", not like UMDCP.

https://registrar.caltech.edu/records/enrollment-statistics

44% Asian American
41% White
7% black
19% Hispanic


UMDCP
Asian 24%
Black 13%
Hispanic 11%
White 40%

Is that list only looking at how much or little the white population is to the overall population?

It's kind of funny that you're actually claiming UMDCP is SO much more diverse than CalTech. The numbers are roughly similar, but do go on!

NP...Tad smug aren't we? Regardless, not sure you can compare these student populations. 1,000 undergrads compared to 30,000? Silly.

“Smug”? Simply responding in kind to the poster who called the USNWR rankings “absolute crap.” Enjoy your day!

You gotta love how the ignorant on here called USNWR results "crap". lolol