Looking at yield at UVA, VT, UMD, G'town, Hopkins, W&M

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Anonymous wrote:For schools with ED, they can control yield and acceptance rate. For the public schools, should take a look at yield for in state vs out of state. Out of state is much lower, most likely due to costs.

Ok but I’m pretty sure most of those schools do early decision. Don’t they? I know UVA, W&M and Va Tech do.

Georgetown specifically does not.

VT Does not have ED anymore.

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I don't understand why this is news to you OP? I would expect families choosing a range of schools are more likely to include one (or more) instate schools on their list as a financial option and as a backup.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why this is news to you OP? I would expect families choosing a range of schools are more likely to include one (or more) instate schools on their list as a financial option and as a backup.

hit send too soon

AND that the acceptance rates would need to account for this....if instate schools know that many of their accepted students are likely to attend elsewhere, they need to accept more to cover their enrollment. This is all simple logic and math. It also says nothing about the quality (or differential in quality) of these schools.

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My VA kid turned down VT for UMD but did NOT view VT as a safety. Quite honestly we weren't sure he'd get into either school. But he got into both. UMD has the diversity he wants (we're white but he's used to a much more diverse population than VT has to offer) and UMD directly admitted him to CS. VT doesn't do that.

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For W&M, it's very expensive for a public school--and especially so for out of state. And it offers virtually no merit aid whereas comparable private schools do. I'd like to see the yield in-state and out of state.

But honestly none of those yield numbers strike me as that low for a state with several very strong schools to choose from.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand the point of these threads. Poorly conceived, poorly written. A waster of everyone’s time

+100
Trying desperately to stir up drama where there is none.

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None of these schools are safety schools. Parents (and students) seem to find out the hard way every single year.

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UVA, W&M, and VT now get a relatively high percentage of their applications from OOS. For OOS cost with aid, they will often be more expensive compared to not only in-state options but private schools, which often give better aid packages.

I don't think of any of these schools as safety schools if you go by the definition of a safety school as one that is 1) a high likely admit and 2) a school you are sure you can afford.

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Anonymous wrote:VT 47,101 applied, 26,923 admitted, acceptance rate 57%, 7,196 enroll, yield of 27%
UVA 50,941 applied, 9,504 admitted, acceptance rate 19%, 4,030 enroll, yield of 42%
UMD 56,637 applied, 25,209 admitted, acceptance rate 45%, 5,783 enroll, yield of 23%
W&M 17,548 applied, 5,741 admitted, acceptance rate 33%,1,619 enroll, yield of 28%
Georgetown 26,638 applied, 3,257 admitted, acceptance rate 12%, 1,574 enroll, yield of 48%
Johns Hopkins 37,826 applied, 2,739 admitted, acceptance rate 7%, 1,405 enroll, yield of 51%

I'm surprised to see VT, UMD and W&M yields so low. It looks like a lot applicants use those schools as a safety.

90% of kids (non-ED) haven't even accepted yet. How on earth do you know yield percentages yet? Those may be what schools are projecting but nobody knows until April/May when all kids have accepted or not.

Georgetown is getting that yield without ED (looking at your ED1 and ED2, Hopkins) or in-state tuition rates…pretty impressive.

Yes, but by requiring good test scores, Georgetown is encouraging only kids with great scores to apply. This eliminates the TO b*llshit/tons of extra applications, so kids with high test scores have a better/more predictable chance of getting admitted.

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UVA’s in-state yield is about 60%.

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Anonymous wrote:My VA kid turned down VT for UMD but did NOT view VT as a safety. Quite honestly we weren't sure he'd get into either school. But he got into both. UMD has the diversity he wants (we're white but he's used to a much more diverse population than VT has to offer) and UMD directly admitted him to CS. VT doesn't do that.

Congrats on being admitted to both VT and UMD. For high stats STEM kids in Northern Virginia, UMD is the easier admit but as has been pointed out, these are not safeties. And lest anyone gets the wrong impression, VT as a whole is plenty diverse, with 60% white. CS and engineering will be closer to 50%.

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Anonymous wrote:My VA kid turned down VT for UMD but did NOT view VT as a safety. Quite honestly we weren't sure he'd get into either school. But he got into both. UMD has the diversity he wants (we're white but he's used to a much more diverse population than VT has to offer) and UMD directly admitted him to CS. VT doesn't do that.

Congrats on being admitted to both VT and UMD. For high stats STEM kids in Northern Virginia, UMD is the easier admit but as has been pointed out, these are not safeties. And lest anyone gets the wrong impression, VT as a whole is plenty diverse, with 60% white. CS and engineering will be closer to 50%.

Not PP you're talking to but VT is not nearly as diverse as UMD. I say that as an Asian parent who had a child choose UMD over UVA and VT for the diversity. The stats will tell you VT is 10% Asian while UMD is 19% Asian. Big difference. As for other races, VT is 6% Hispanic. UMD is 10%. VT is 4% black. UMD is 12% black. I'm sure a black student would chose UMD over VT if they were looking for some representation. VT is an excellent school but diversity is not its strong suit, considering how many Asian, Hispanic, and Black people there are in the state of Virginia.

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Many good in state students apply to both William & Mary and UVA, and many of those are accepted to both. William &
Mary’s in state yield for 22-23 was 34 percent and UVA’s was 57 percent. It’s pretty obvious that more often than not William & Mary loses the in state battle to UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:Many good in state students apply to both William & Mary and UVA, and many of those are accepted to both. William &
Mary’s in state yield for 22-23 was 34 percent and UVA’s was 57 percent. It’s pretty obvious that more often than not William & Mary loses the in state battle to UVA.

Once a school reaches a yield near 50%, it tells me that it is a school that applicants are dying to attend. UVA's combo of in state tuition and academic standing is a dynamic duo.

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Anonymous wrote:VT 47,101 applied, 26,923 admitted, acceptance rate 57%, 7,196 enroll, yield of 27%
UVA 50,941 applied, 9,504 admitted, acceptance rate 19%, 4,030 enroll, yield of 42%
UMD 56,637 applied, 25,209 admitted, acceptance rate 45%, 5,783 enroll, yield of 23%
W&M 17,548 applied, 5,741 admitted, acceptance rate 33%,1,619 enroll, yield of 28%
Georgetown 26,638 applied, 3,257 admitted, acceptance rate 12%, 1,574 enroll, yield of 48%
Johns Hopkins 37,826 applied, 2,739 admitted, acceptance rate 7%, 1,405 enroll, yield of 51%

I'm surprised to see VT, UMD and W&M yields so low. It looks like a lot applicants use those schools as a safety.

90% of kids (non-ED) haven't even accepted yet. How on earth do you know yield percentages yet? Those may be what schools are projecting but nobody knows until April/May when all kids have accepted or not.

Georgetown is getting that yield without ED (looking at your ED1 and ED2, Hopkins) or in-state tuition rates…pretty impressive.

Yes, but by requiring good test scores, Georgetown is encouraging only kids with great scores to apply. This eliminates the TO b*llshit/tons of extra applications, so kids with high test scores have a better/more predictable chance of getting admitted.

I see your point but the chances of a Georgetown admit EA (which is essentially the same as it’s RD rate) are far lower than the ED admissions rate for any of the schools mentioned; I wouldn’t categorize that as “more predictable.”