Looking at yield at UVA, VT, UMD, G'town, Hopkins, W&M

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Anonymous wrote:VT 47,101 applied, 26,923 admitted, acceptance rate 57%, 7,196 enroll, yield of 27%
UVA 50,941 applied, 9,504 admitted, acceptance rate 19%, 4,030 enroll, yield of 42%
UMD 56,637 applied, 25,209 admitted, acceptance rate 45%, 5,783 enroll, yield of 23%
W&M 17,548 applied, 5,741 admitted, acceptance rate 33%,1,619 enroll, yield of 28%
Georgetown 26,638 applied, 3,257 admitted, acceptance rate 12%, 1,574 enroll, yield of 48%
Johns Hopkins 37,826 applied, 2,739 admitted, acceptance rate 7%, 1,405 enroll, yield of 51%

I'm surprised to see VT, UMD and W&M yields so low. It looks like a lot applicants use those schools as a safety.

They aren't safeties, but certainly, in-state students would be wise to have them on their list as targets. Or to be more blunt, in most cases, not applying to one's in-state schools would be dumb.

Yield doesn't seem to be a good way of looking at selectivity and whether it is a safety. Why not look at stats? That is a much more direct indicator. If you are below a certain point on the stats, it is not a safety for you.

W&M enrolled = 1510/1450/1360 for SAT and 34/33/32 for ACT.
VT enrolled = 1410/1330/1250 for SAT and 32/30/27 for ACT
UMD enrolled = 1510/1440/1370 for SAT and 34/33/31 for ACT.

UMD enrolled stats are nearly as high as UVA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VT 47,101 applied, 26,923 admitted, acceptance rate 57%, 7,196 enroll, yield of 27%
UVA 50,941 applied, 9,504 admitted, acceptance rate 19%, 4,030 enroll, yield of 42%
UMD 56,637 applied, 25,209 admitted, acceptance rate 45%, 5,783 enroll, yield of 23%
W&M 17,548 applied, 5,741 admitted, acceptance rate 33%,1,619 enroll, yield of 28%
Georgetown 26,638 applied, 3,257 admitted, acceptance rate 12%, 1,574 enroll, yield of 48%
Johns Hopkins 37,826 applied, 2,739 admitted, acceptance rate 7%, 1,405 enroll, yield of 51%

I'm surprised to see VT, UMD and W&M yields so low. It looks like a lot applicants use those schools as a safety.

They aren't safeties, but certainly, in-state students would be wise to have them on their list as targets. Or to be more blunt, in most cases, not applying to one's in-state schools would be dumb.

Yield doesn't seem to be a good way of looking at selectivity and whether it is a safety. Why not look at stats? That is a much more direct indicator. If you are below a certain point on the stats, it is not a safety for you.

W&M enrolled = 1510/1450/1360 for SAT and 34/33/32 for ACT.
VT enrolled = 1410/1330/1250 for SAT and 32/30/27 for ACT
UMD enrolled = 1510/1440/1370 for SAT and 34/33/31 for ACT.

UMD enrolled stats are nearly as high as UVA.

Don't a majority of UMD students go T/O?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VT 47,101 applied, 26,923 admitted, acceptance rate 57%, 7,196 enroll, yield of 27%
UVA 50,941 applied, 9,504 admitted, acceptance rate 19%, 4,030 enroll, yield of 42%
UMD 56,637 applied, 25,209 admitted, acceptance rate 45%, 5,783 enroll, yield of 23%
W&M 17,548 applied, 5,741 admitted, acceptance rate 33%,1,619 enroll, yield of 28%
Georgetown 26,638 applied, 3,257 admitted, acceptance rate 12%, 1,574 enroll, yield of 48%
Johns Hopkins 37,826 applied, 2,739 admitted, acceptance rate 7%, 1,405 enroll, yield of 51%

I'm surprised to see VT, UMD and W&M yields so low. It looks like a lot applicants use those schools as a safety.

They aren't safeties, but certainly, in-state students would be wise to have them on their list as targets. Or to be more blunt, in most cases, not applying to one's in-state schools would be dumb.

Yield doesn't seem to be a good way of looking at selectivity and whether it is a safety. Why not look at stats? That is a much more direct indicator. If you are below a certain point on the stats, it is not a safety for you.

W&M enrolled = 1510/1450/1360 for SAT and 34/33/32 for ACT.
VT enrolled = 1410/1330/1250 for SAT and 32/30/27 for ACT
UMD enrolled = 1510/1440/1370 for SAT and 34/33/31 for ACT.

UMD enrolled stats are nearly as high as UVA.

Don't a majority of UMD students go T/O?

47% report SAT and 8% ACT at UMD. 50% SAT and 16% ACT at UVA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:W&M looking to bump up yield rate this fall

https://flathatnews.com/2024/02/18/prof-armstrong-says-college-will-be-promoted-to-very-high-research-in-bov-meeting-board-increases-muscarelle-funding/#:~:text=Notably%2C%20the%20College%20will%20initiate%20a%20%E2%80%9CYield%20Optimization%20Pilot%E2%80%9D%20in%20partnership%20with%20Encoura%2C%20an%20online%20marketing%20firm%20that%20collaborates%20with%20post%2Dsecondary%20institutions%20to%20boost%20prospective%20student%20engagement.%C2%A0

So, yield protection in another form.

So let me see, based on this logic, schools should also get rid of events like admitted students days, nice acceptance letters, and scholarships in order to avoid the claim of "yield protection" on DCUM.

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Anonymous wrote:Many good in state students apply to both William & Mary and UVA, and many of those are accepted to both. William &
Mary’s in state yield for 22-23 was 34 percent and UVA’s was 57 percent. It’s pretty obvious that more often than not William & Mary loses the in state battle to UVA.

Where will I find support for the premise that many in state students apply to both WM and UVA? Or maybe a link? Many kids I know attending one or the other did not apply to both. They are very different schools. And for WM, ED is raking in a huge (and growing) number of applicants. They are very different schools. If kids visit both before applying, they usually has a strong preference. I can only think of one student across both of my kids’ HS classes who had a choice between UVA and W&N in May.

Rebus you






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I applied to both and quite a few applied to both then. But you may be correct that things are changing with increasing use of ED. It was more of an RD world back then. I don't know where this information is publicly available. I'm sure the schools have a good idea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many good in state students apply to both William & Mary and UVA, and many of those are accepted to both. William &
Mary’s in state yield for 22-23 was 34 percent and UVA’s was 57 percent. It’s pretty obvious that more often than not William & Mary loses the in state battle to UVA.

Where will I find support for the premise that many in state students apply to both WM and UVA? Or maybe a link? Many kids I know attending one or the other did not apply to both. They are very different schools. And for WM, ED is raking in a huge (and growing) number of applicants. They are very different schools. If kids visit both before applying, they usually has a strong preference. I can only think of one student across both of my kids’ HS classes who had a choice between UVA and W&N in May.

Rebus you






l.

I applied to both and quite a few applied to both then. But you may be correct that things are changing with increasing use of ED. It was more of an RD world back then. I don't know where this information is publicly available. I'm sure the schools have a good idea.

I know several of DDs friends applied to both. I think generally applying to both is about wanting to get into the best ranked schools in the state. ED definitely is influential since WM has ED2. I don't think it's unusual for a VA student to ED to UVA and then ED2 to WM.

That said, my kids had very strong school size preferences. Big-school kid only applied to UVA (+VT and JMU). Small-school kid only applied to WM (+UMW and LACs).