Looking at yield at UVA, VT, UMD, G'town, Hopkins, W&M

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VT 47,101 applied, 26,923 admitted, acceptance rate 57%, 7,196 enroll, yield of 27%
UVA 50,941 applied, 9,504 admitted, acceptance rate 19%, 4,030 enroll, yield of 42%
UMD 56,637 applied, 25,209 admitted, acceptance rate 45%, 5,783 enroll, yield of 23%
W&M 17,548 applied, 5,741 admitted, acceptance rate 33%,1,619 enroll, yield of 28%
Georgetown 26,638 applied, 3,257 admitted, acceptance rate 12%, 1,574 enroll, yield of 48%
Johns Hopkins 37,826 applied, 2,739 admitted, acceptance rate 7%, 1,405 enroll, yield of 51%

I'm surprised to see VT, UMD and W&M yields so low. It looks like a lot applicants use those schools as a safety.

90% of kids (non-ED) haven't even accepted yet. How on earth do you know yield percentages yet? Those may be what schools are projecting but nobody knows until April/May when all kids have accepted or not.

Last year’s data?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My son did indeed use UMD as a safety, and he declined W&M. He went to a university that was not more selective, but was a much better fit.

So please don't discount fit, which is very individual.

+1
So many personal unknowns as to why someone would decline a school - any school.

[Anonymous]

How can you fairly compare schools with ED to those without?

With ED, they have more control over yield.

[Anonymous]

Lots of students excepted at Marilyn were excepted, but offered for a January 2025, spring semester start. Can we assume that OP did not include those acceptances in the Maryland numbers reported above?

[Anonymous]

*accepted. Sorry. Voice to text

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lots of students excepted at Marilyn were excepted, but offered for a January 2025, spring semester start. Can we assume that OP did not include those acceptances in the Maryland numbers reported above?

The data only includes those who enrolled in the fall, so if they were a spring admit, their data is not counted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Meh, some schools don't bother yield protecting or manipulating it through the waitlist.

The myth of yield protecting. It's called a school admitting the best candiate that serves their particular need.

That particular need being a full-pay candiate that will enroll...

[Anonymous]

I don’t understand the point of these threads. Poorly conceived, poorly written. A waster of everyone’s time

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VT 47,101 applied, 26,923 admitted, acceptance rate 57%, 7,196 enroll, yield of 27%
UVA 50,941 applied, 9,504 admitted, acceptance rate 19%, 4,030 enroll, yield of 42%
UMD 56,637 applied, 25,209 admitted, acceptance rate 45%, 5,783 enroll, yield of 23%
W&M 17,548 applied, 5,741 admitted, acceptance rate 33%,1,619 enroll, yield of 28%
Georgetown 26,638 applied, 3,257 admitted, acceptance rate 12%, 1,574 enroll, yield of 48%
Johns Hopkins 37,826 applied, 2,739 admitted, acceptance rate 7%, 1,405 enroll, yield of 51%

I'm surprised to see VT, UMD and W&M yields so low. It looks like a lot applicants use those schools as a safety.

90% of kids (non-ED) haven't even accepted yet. How on earth do you know yield percentages yet? Those may be what schools are projecting but nobody knows until April/May when all kids have accepted or not.

Georgetown is getting that yield without ED (looking at your ED1 and ED2, Hopkins) or in-state tuition rates…pretty impressive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VT 47,101 applied, 26,923 admitted, acceptance rate 57%, 7,196 enroll, yield of 27%
UVA 50,941 applied, 9,504 admitted, acceptance rate 19%, 4,030 enroll, yield of 42%
UMD 56,637 applied, 25,209 admitted, acceptance rate 45%, 5,783 enroll, yield of 23%
W&M 17,548 applied, 5,741 admitted, acceptance rate 33%,1,619 enroll, yield of 28%
Georgetown 26,638 applied, 3,257 admitted, acceptance rate 12%, 1,574 enroll, yield of 48%
Johns Hopkins 37,826 applied, 2,739 admitted, acceptance rate 7%, 1,405 enroll, yield of 51%

I'm surprised to see VT, UMD and W&M yields so low. It looks like a lot applicants use those schools as a safety.

90% of kids (non-ED) haven't even accepted yet. How on earth do you know yield percentages yet? Those may be what schools are projecting but nobody knows until April/May when all kids have accepted or not.

Georgetown is getting that yield without ED (looking at your ED1 and ED2, Hopkins) or in-state tuition rates…pretty impressive.

True, true, true, and all the while mandating SAT's.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The pattern seems to be, the more selective the college, the higher the yield. Kind of makes sense.

Completely obvious.

There are more variables than that. MIT's yield is higher than Caltech, but it historically has not had higher stat kids. Which is more selective? They probably have a significant overlap in applicants. MIT's undergraduate enrollment is considerably larger than Caltech's. MIT will have to enroll proportionately more of the overlap applicants than Caltech does to maintain rough parity in stats. That means MIT must have a higher yield to have rough parity in stats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For schools with ED, they can control yield and acceptance rate. For the public schools, should take a look at yield for in state vs out of state. Out of state is much lower, most likely due to costs.

Ok but I’m pretty sure most of those schools do early decision. Don’t they? I know UVA, W&M and Va Tech do.

Georgetown specifically does not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VT 47,101 applied, 26,923 admitted, acceptance rate 57%, 7,196 enroll, yield of 27%
UVA 50,941 applied, 9,504 admitted, acceptance rate 19%, 4,030 enroll, yield of 42%
UMD 56,637 applied, 25,209 admitted, acceptance rate 45%, 5,783 enroll, yield of 23%
W&M 17,548 applied, 5,741 admitted, acceptance rate 33%,1,619 enroll, yield of 28%
Georgetown 26,638 applied, 3,257 admitted, acceptance rate 12%, 1,574 enroll, yield of 48%
Johns Hopkins 37,826 applied, 2,739 admitted, acceptance rate 7%, 1,405 enroll, yield of 51%

I'm surprised to see VT, UMD and W&M yields so low. It looks like a lot applicants use those schools as a safety.

90% of kids (non-ED) haven't even accepted yet. How on earth do you know yield percentages yet? Those may be what schools are projecting but nobody knows until April/May when all kids have accepted or not.

Last year’s data?

definitely not this years data, the applicant numbers are too low for VT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How can you fairly compare schools with ED to those without?

With ED, they have more control over yield.

Which selective schools do not offer ED? Are there many ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For schools with ED, they can control yield and acceptance rate. For the public schools, should take a look at yield for in state vs out of state. Out of state is much lower, most likely due to costs.

Ok but I’m pretty sure most of those schools do early decision. Don’t they? I know UVA, W&M and Va Tech do.

UMD does not do ED.

There are a lot of smart kids in MCPS, and they do see UMDCP as a safety.