Not attractive enough for the men I am attracted to

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here, I am also petite so I need to be dressed really carefully to show off my proportions. For as long as I was young people did not notice me as I looked too young! And now I guess I am plain ugly.

I'm fairly certain you're another incel cosplaying a woman. But on the unlikely chance you're real it's not your looks that are the issue it's your desperation and negativity. No one wants a partner that's constantly putting themselves down and insecure and needy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Guy here. Lots of good advice on this thread. The main thing would be hit the gym 3 times a week. Do not waste time on aerobics since already thin. Lift weights only. Can also do this at home if more convenient or apprehensive. Focus on the butt and shoulder development. Butt should be the main focus. If you don't believe, do some googling. Capped shoulders will make you appear 'athletic'.

Guy here and I don't want athletic or muscular, biggest turn off.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, it will sound silly, but I've begun wearing a mask in certain social situations (parties, get-togethers, happy-hours.) If you think about it, a mask is really just another accessory like a hairband, earrings, whatever. They can also add to a woman's mystery. Who is she? Who's behind the mask? etc. Not saying it works in every situation, but for many they do. YMMV

Oh honey. I promise you that no one thinks your mask adds mystery. They are thinking that you’re a neurotic hypochondriac.

Hahahahah. Some absolutely insane people post here. A mask to add intrigue….rolling!

Yeah… never once has the weirdo that got out of the limo with a mask on the first night of The Bachelor ever won.

But that's just the point, a mask (a full mask) is a creative way for a woman who is maybe not so conventionally "attractive" get in the mix, as in Who is that in the mask? Who is she? I want to know more... and if it's a mask with a fun aspect to it, like a monkey or cute gorilla or something, just sit back and let the sparks fly.

[Anonymous]

The reality is the more attractive you are, the more options you have. I’m sure OP could is aiming too high, which she acknowledges. But her OP doesn’t mention appearance of her partner.

Would OP be OK with a guy who meets all of your criteria but is fat, short, or acne ridden? Be honest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The reality is the more attractive you are, the more options you have. I’m sure OP could is aiming too high, which she acknowledges. But her OP doesn’t mention appearance of her partner.

Would OP be OK with a guy who meets all of your criteria but is fat, short, or acne ridden? Be honest.

Who would be ok with that unless he was rich and the woman was from some mail order bride country

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Anonymous wrote:OP, it will sound silly, but I've begun wearing a mask in certain social situations (parties, get-togethers, happy-hours.) If you think about it, a mask is really just another accessory like a hairband, earrings, whatever. They can also add to a woman's mystery. Who is she? Who's behind the mask? etc. Not saying it works in every situation, but for many they do. YMMV

Oh honey. I promise you that no one thinks your mask adds mystery. They are thinking that you’re a neurotic hypochondriac.

Hahahahah. Some absolutely insane people post here. A mask to add intrigue….rolling!

Yeah… never once has the weirdo that got out of the limo with a mask on the first night of The Bachelor ever won.

But that's just the point, a mask (a full mask) is a creative way for a woman who is maybe not so conventionally "attractive" get in the mix, as in Who is that in the mask? Who is she? I want to know more... and if it's a mask with a fun aspect to it, like a monkey or cute gorilla or something, just sit back and let the sparks fly.

Why are you so obsessed with this idea? You sound like you’re in middle school.

[Anonymous]

OP, the rich guys don't want women with poor self-confidence and an obvious obsession with appearances. What do you have in common with the men you seek? Not every high-status man is going for a supermodel - many are simply trying to find an equal partner. I doubt your nose is the problem, especially if you're already thin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I want what every woman wants: a good man with a sense of direction and a financially successful. A good heart and good values.

I know when I spot them but they do not even see me. I know why, I am not conventionally attractive. I know the kind of women they want. Feminine, attractive, put together but also down to earth.

I believe i have the character traits but my face and body do not signal my worthiness.

Do I just lower my standards? I can't seem to know how to downgrade!

Simple. You’re a 4-5 trying to pull a 10. You may have had a 10 or an 8 or 9 before once or twice and they dumped you off. So now you think you are a 8 or 9 when you’re a 4 or 5.

Good looking successful men have any woman they want. Dating website stats show this; 80 percent of women are swiping on the same 10 percent of guys . Why wound those guys who have options settle for someone who is not “conveniently” attractive? They want someone hot, feminine and fun to be around.

You can have your own money, your own house and talk about how you’re financially secure and handle your business. Good for you, you do what most men do every day. Congratulations for being an adult.

Men don’t care about that stuff. They want women who aren’t fat, who aren’t disagreeable and argumentative all the time and who show effort. Men hate the “sassy” and “yasss slay queen” BS, it’s off-putting. Oh you can say, men are just scared of independent women all you want. No men aren’t. In fact most like independent women, go do your stuff and stop always calling.

Thing is the men who are at your level you’re not attracted to because you think you deserve this good looking rich bad-boy but good guy unicorn. You don’t, you’re average you deserve an average guy. It’s harsh but it’s true. Sorry not sorry

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, I am also petite so I need to be dressed really carefully to show off my proportions. For as long as I was young people did not notice me as I looked too young! And now I guess I am plain ugly.

I'm fairly certain you're another incel cosplaying a woman. But on the unlikely chance you're real it's not your looks that are the issue it's your desperation and negativity. No one wants a partner that's constantly putting themselves down and insecure and needy

lol incel.

The use of incel to shame someone basically makes the inverse assertion: that women's value to men is their sexual access.

People who use that term are stupid for perpetuating such a concept.

You use the term because the ability to have sex is the only store of value you posses/understand or contribute.

How sad for you..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Get a good plastic surgeon.

If you can afford to do so, this might be extremely beneficial.

It did wonders for Bella Hadid, Kylie Jenner + Khloé Kardashian.

[Anonymous]

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There are lots of men who feel the same. I wonder why such people don't go for each other? Hundred percent of men want top 10% beautiful women while hundred percent of women want top 10% rich men. Its just a self defeating pursuit. Why not look for happy, healthy, kind, honest, hard working long term partners, instead of looking for gorgeous faces and heavy wallets?

You just described the plot of A Beautiful Mind, about the guy who won the Nobel prize for Economics. You should study game theory and learn about Nash equilibrium!

[Anonymous]

Women spend a lot of time to look beautiful. They are not going to compromise regardless of how *unattractive* they are. In fact any woman who thinks of herself as not attractive I give her a lot of credit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I want what every woman wants: a good man with a sense of direction and a financially successful. A good heart and good values.

I know when I spot them but they do not even see me. I know why, I am not conventionally attractive. I know the kind of women they want. Feminine, attractive, put together but also down to earth.

I believe i have the character traits but my face and body do not signal my worthiness.

Do I just lower my standards? I can't seem to know how to downgrade!

Simple. You’re a 4-5 trying to pull a 10. You may have had a 10 or an 8 or 9 before once or twice and they dumped you off. So now you think you are a 8 or 9 when you’re a 4 or 5.

Good looking successful men have any woman they want. Dating website stats show this; 80 percent of women are swiping on the same 10 percent of guys . Why wound those guys who have options settle for someone who is not “conveniently” attractive? They want someone hot, feminine and fun to be around.

You can have your own money, your own house and talk about how you’re financially secure and handle your business. Good for you, you do what most men do every day. Congratulations for being an adult.

Men don’t care about that stuff. They want women who aren’t fat, who aren’t disagreeable and argumentative all the time and who show effort. Men hate the “sassy” and “yasss slay queen” BS, it’s off-putting. Oh you can say, men are just scared of independent women all you want. No men aren’t. In fact most like independent women, go do your stuff and stop always calling.

Thing is the men who are at your level you’re not attracted to because you think you deserve this good looking rich bad-boy but good guy unicorn. You don’t, you’re average you deserve an average guy. It’s harsh but it’s true. Sorry not sorry

Well, this person isn’t going to win any awards for tact, but this is it ^^.

OP, you are a four wanting a nine and it’s not gonna happen. I had a coworker like this; when we met, we were in our early 30s, and now we are just over 50. She kept going on about “hot guys” back then, lol. Like a dumb teenager or something. She is still alone at 50 and has never had a real relationship even though that is pretty much all she ever wanted. So — moral of the story — you grow up and start dating the fives, or the sixes at the highest, or you will be alone for the rest of your life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want what every woman wants: a good man with a sense of direction and a financially successful. A good heart and good values.

I know when I spot them but they do not even see me. I know why, I am not conventionally attractive. I know the kind of women they want. Feminine, attractive, put together but also down to earth.

I believe i have the character traits but my face and body do not signal my worthiness.

Do I just lower my standards? I can't seem to know how to downgrade!

Simple. You’re a 4-5 trying to pull a 10. You may have had a 10 or an 8 or 9 before once or twice and they dumped you off. So now you think you are a 8 or 9 when you’re a 4 or 5.

Good looking successful men have any woman they want. Dating website stats show this; 80 percent of women are swiping on the same 10 percent of guys . Why wound those guys who have options settle for someone who is not “conveniently” attractive? They want someone hot, feminine and fun to be around.

You can have your own money, your own house and talk about how you’re financially secure and handle your business. Good for you, you do what most men do every day. Congratulations for being an adult.

Men don’t care about that stuff. They want women who aren’t fat, who aren’t disagreeable and argumentative all the time and who show effort. Men hate the “sassy” and “yasss slay queen” BS, it’s off-putting. Oh you can say, men are just scared of independent women all you want. No men aren’t. In fact most like independent women, go do your stuff and stop always calling.

Thing is the men who are at your level you’re not attracted to because you think you deserve this good looking rich bad-boy but good guy unicorn. You don’t, you’re average you deserve an average guy. It’s harsh but it’s true. Sorry not sorry

Well, this person isn’t going to win any awards for tact, but this is it ^^.

OP, you are a four wanting a nine and it’s not gonna happen. I had a coworker like this; when we met, we were in our early 30s, and now we are just over 50. She kept going on about “hot guys” back then, lol. Like a dumb teenager or something. She is still alone at 50 and has never had a real relationship even though that is pretty much all she ever wanted. So — moral of the story — you grow up and start dating the fives, or the sixes at the highest, or you will be alone for the rest of your life.

I am a man and I think your comments is unfair to women. People don’t even apply ratings to men. Seems like women are the ones that are rated. The ugliest 300 lbs man think (and he is probably right) than he can get a 7 or 8 woman.