Firing those who don’t RTO

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I worked in year I got my biggest promotion 8 am to 8pm 70 weeks straight without a single vacation day or sick day or ever being late. My team of three was l leading a 250 person project with a hard deadline.

I left home at 640am and got home 915 pm.

You can’t get work done like this remote. All 250 of us were working long hours.

I like remote but I can’t do it in these type of projects. It was worth it and would do it again. I learned 10 years worth of things in 70 weeks.

Remote drags everyone to mediocre.


If you think this is something to brag about, that's pathetic. You were clearly overworked, and if you value your time at all, you were most definitely underpaid. There is not enough money in this world to convince me to spend a year of my precious life in that way.


And exactly what did I miss? I did not work weekends and I usually watch TV on weeknights.


You were not working those hours and no way if you had kids or a spouse you were watching tv weeknights. And, if you worked Amazon you’d be working many night, on your commute home and weekends. It’s a global company and the expectation is to work the hours of the customer so it’s not exactly a 9-5 office job. And, then add 2 hours commuting.

Amazon is trying to reduce staffing. Instead of laying off which they recently did they are now using this as an excuse to get rid of people. They are going to lose really good people. It’s sad.


Huh? Amazon is a global company, so they have staff working "customer hours" in different time zones around the world.

Amazon works people to the bone because Bezoe and pals are greedy aholes, not because of the customer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I worked in year I got my biggest promotion 8 am to 8pm 70 weeks straight without a single vacation day or sick day or ever being late. My team of three was l leading a 250 person project with a hard deadline.

I left home at 640am and got home 915 pm.

You can’t get work done like this remote. All 250 of us were working long hours.

I like remote but I can’t do it in these type of projects. It was worth it and would do it again. I learned 10 years worth of things in 70 weeks.

Remote drags everyone to mediocre.


I hope you were saving lives or making the world a better place because no promotion is worth what you describe.


I was. I love work. I love challenging projects that matter. I rather work 60 hours doing meaningful work I love that 10 hours of drudgery


That’s great, yet in your post you focused on impeccable attendance, long hours, and promotion. It’s telling that you remembered about the nature of your work only after being prompted.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I worked in year I got my biggest promotion 8 am to 8pm 70 weeks straight without a single vacation day or sick day or ever being late. My team of three was l leading a 250 person project with a hard deadline.

I left home at 640am and got home 915 pm.

You can’t get work done like this remote. All 250 of us were working long hours.

I like remote but I can’t do it in these type of projects. It was worth it and would do it again. I learned 10 years worth of things in 70 weeks.

Remote drags everyone to mediocre.


If you think this is something to brag about, that's pathetic. You were clearly overworked, and if you value your time at all, you were most definitely underpaid. There is not enough money in this world to convince me to spend a year of my precious life in that way.


And exactly what did I miss? I did not work weekends and I usually watch TV on weeknights.


You were not working those hours and no way if you had kids or a spouse you were watching tv weeknights. And, if you worked Amazon you’d be working many night, on your commute home and weekends. It’s a global company and the expectation is to work the hours of the customer so it’s not exactly a 9-5 office job. And, then add 2 hours commuting.

Amazon is trying to reduce staffing. Instead of laying off which they recently did they are now using this as an excuse to get rid of people. They are going to lose really good people. It’s sad.


Huh? Amazon is a global company, so they have staff working "customer hours" in different time zones around the world.

Amazon works people to the bone because Bezoe and pals are greedy aholes, not because of the customer.


Bezos has nothing to do with it. He has stock, just like everyone else. It's the corporate leadership that drive the work hours and conditions. Bezos doesn't lead Amazon anymore. The expectation is you work 24/7 on the customers time.
Anonymous
Yesterday was a day in the office for my hybrid schedule. I literally got nothing productive done because of a few meetings (that could have been virtual) and a lot of drop-bys.

Being in the office occasionally is really important for relationship building and collaboration. But it’s still not a place that drives actual productivity.

I didn’t even open my laptop. I did some emails from my phone for a period - so I guess that counts but I was interrupted a decent amount.

Today I’ll get the desk work done from home I could have done yesterday.

There are many roles that don’t need to RTO, even only 3 days a week.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yesterday was a day in the office for my hybrid schedule. I literally got nothing productive done because of a few meetings (that could have been virtual) and a lot of drop-bys.

Being in the office occasionally is really important for relationship building and collaboration. But it’s still not a place that drives actual productivity.

I didn’t even open my laptop. I did some emails from my phone for a period - so I guess that counts but I was interrupted a decent amount.

Today I’ll get the desk work done from home I could have done yesterday.

There are many roles that don’t need to RTO, even only 3 days a week.


I very much agree with this, but am I the only one struggling with training the young new hires who will be eventually replacing me when I retire? I feel there's so much to in-person, informal on-the-job training, I certainly gained a lot from it decades ago. Hopping on a skype call with those newbies and imparting knowledge and advice isn't the same as sitting down together.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yesterday was a day in the office for my hybrid schedule. I literally got nothing productive done because of a few meetings (that could have been virtual) and a lot of drop-bys.

Being in the office occasionally is really important for relationship building and collaboration. But it’s still not a place that drives actual productivity.

I didn’t even open my laptop. I did some emails from my phone for a period - so I guess that counts but I was interrupted a decent amount.

Today I’ll get the desk work done from home I could have done yesterday.

There are many roles that don’t need to RTO, even only 3 days a week.


I very much agree with this, but am I the only one struggling with training the young new hires who will be eventually replacing me when I retire? I feel there's so much to in-person, informal on-the-job training, I certainly gained a lot from it decades ago. Hopping on a skype call with those newbies and imparting knowledge and advice isn't the same as sitting down together.


NP and I much prefer training remotely simply because they can watch what I am doing and also follow along on their computer while I show them our various systems. I hated that awkwardness where you're crammed together trying to show someone something on your monitor and in order to see they have to be right on top of you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yesterday was a day in the office for my hybrid schedule. I literally got nothing productive done because of a few meetings (that could have been virtual) and a lot of drop-bys.

Being in the office occasionally is really important for relationship building and collaboration. But it’s still not a place that drives actual productivity.

I didn’t even open my laptop. I did some emails from my phone for a period - so I guess that counts but I was interrupted a decent amount.

Today I’ll get the desk work done from home I could have done yesterday.

There are many roles that don’t need to RTO, even only 3 days a week.


I very much agree with this, but am I the only one struggling with training the young new hires who will be eventually replacing me when I retire? I feel there's so much to in-person, informal on-the-job training, I certainly gained a lot from it decades ago. Hopping on a skype call with those newbies and imparting knowledge and advice isn't the same as sitting down together.


NP and I much prefer training remotely simply because they can watch what I am doing and also follow along on their computer while I show them our various systems. I hated that awkwardness where you're crammed together trying to show someone something on your monitor and in order to see they have to be right on top of you.


Yes to the training.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yesterday was a day in the office for my hybrid schedule. I literally got nothing productive done because of a few meetings (that could have been virtual) and a lot of drop-bys.

Being in the office occasionally is really important for relationship building and collaboration. But it’s still not a place that drives actual productivity.

I didn’t even open my laptop. I did some emails from my phone for a period - so I guess that counts but I was interrupted a decent amount.

Today I’ll get the desk work done from home I could have done yesterday.

There are many roles that don’t need to RTO, even only 3 days a week.


I very much agree with this, but am I the only one struggling with training the young new hires who will be eventually replacing me when I retire? I feel there's so much to in-person, informal on-the-job training, I certainly gained a lot from it decades ago. Hopping on a skype call with those newbies and imparting knowledge and advice isn't the same as sitting down together.


NP and I much prefer training remotely simply because they can watch what I am doing and also follow along on their computer while I show them our various systems. I hated that awkwardness where you're crammed together trying to show someone something on your monitor and in order to see they have to be right on top of you.


+100

I remember having to train creepy guys while stuck in a cubicle with them leaning over me.
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