Firing those who don’t RTO

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Amazon just gave its managers authority to fire workers who won’t RTO 3 days/week. It’s about time.

Why do you care about Amazon? Do you work there or something?

Don’t work there. It’s just an example of a company that pays great overall compensation, yet many workers seem to take it for granted. Same for other FANG and similar jobs. The people who work these jobs seem to think they’re a special class to whom the rules don’t apply. It’s time they’re humbled.

I think it’s very weird you have this manner of thinking and strongly advise you to seek therapy for your character defect.

I mean, wow. Is this mental illness of yours develop recently or have you always had such distorted thinking?

Glad you’re not a therapist. It’s clear you don’t know much about mental illness. In fact, you might look in the mirror, because your views are tone deaf.

I know enough to know you are cuckoo for coco puffs.

What a weird and offensive way you think. It’s completely psychotic.

[Anonymous]

You can also leave at 4:45 you know. You don’t have to have kids to do that.

[Anonymous]

They are about to get a ton of ADA accommodation requests!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Amazon just gave its managers authority to fire workers who won’t RTO 3 days/week. It’s about time.

Why do you care about Amazon? Do you work there or something?

Don’t work there. It’s just an example of a company that pays great overall compensation, yet many workers seem to take it for granted. Same for other FANG and similar jobs. The people who work these jobs seem to think they’re a special class to whom the rules don’t apply. It’s time they’re humbled.

So, you're jealous?

This is a common, overused retort by the chronic WFH/remote work promoters.

Jealousy means you want it too. I don’t want it.

What I want is a functioning workplace where everyone is accountable and carries their weight. I’m not going to get into a food fight about the productivity and availability of those who WFH, but it’s lacking relative to in-office peers. Thus, the frustration is not jealousy, but justice. I’m tired of co-workers half-a$$ing their job, getting paid obnoxiously well, and leaving their work for others. If the WFH crowd has suddenly discovered that the meaning of life is to screw their employers and peers and dig ever deeper into the pay/benefits cookie jar, then I support their dismissal. They’re no longer a team player and shouldn’t enjoy the fruits the team produces.

I could say the same about people with kids who think the world revolves around their kids schedules - and everyone without kids should be picking up the slack when they dart out the door at 4:45 regardless of what's going on.

I may leave at 4:45pm (or, gasp, sometimes 3:45pm) but I log back on at 8:30pm because I am ambitious in my career. I support RTO but that does not mean I want to be subject to copious amounts of face time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Amazon just gave its managers authority to fire workers who won’t RTO 3 days/week. It’s about time.

I wish the government would do this. Amazon at least has performance management processes to get rid of the lazy workers. In government they just stay forever.

[Anonymous]

People are employees at will. If they don’t like RTO they can move on. But I’d wait for the severance package.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Amazon just gave its managers authority to fire workers who won’t RTO 3 days/week. It’s about time.

Why do you care about Amazon? Do you work there or something?

Don’t work there. It’s just an example of a company that pays great overall compensation, yet many workers seem to take it for granted. Same for other FANG and similar jobs. The people who work these jobs seem to think they’re a special class to whom the rules don’t apply. It’s time they’re humbled.

Actually the compensation is just ok, especially for the amount of hours most work. They are going to lose a lot of good people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Amazon just gave its managers authority to fire workers who won’t RTO 3 days/week. It’s about time.

I wish the government would do this. Amazon at least has performance management processes to get rid of the lazy workers. In government they just stay forever.

The problem is they aren't going to get rid of the lazy workers they will get rid of the ones who work hard and keep things going. If you have an hour or two commute each way, and RTO, those 2-3 hours could be used working and its sole sucking so many are looking for other jobs.

[Anonymous]

Slackers are slackers no matter what.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Amazon just gave its managers authority to fire workers who won’t RTO 3 days/week. It’s about time.

Why do you care about Amazon? Do you work there or something?

Don’t work there. It’s just an example of a company that pays great overall compensation, yet many workers seem to take it for granted. Same for other FANG and similar jobs. The people who work these jobs seem to think they’re a special class to whom the rules don’t apply. It’s time they’re humbled.

So, you're jealous?

This is a common, overused retort by the chronic WFH/remote work promoters.

Jealousy means you want it too. I don’t want it.

What I want is a functioning workplace where everyone is accountable and carries their weight. I’m not going to get into a food fight about the productivity and availability of those who WFH, but it’s lacking relative to in-office peers. Thus, the frustration is not jealousy, but justice. I’m tired of co-workers half-a$$ing their job, getting paid obnoxiously well, and leaving their work for others. If the WFH crowd has suddenly discovered that the meaning of life is to screw their employers and peers and dig ever deeper into the pay/benefits cookie jar, then I support their dismissal. They’re no longer a team player and shouldn’t enjoy the fruits the team produces.

I could say the same about people with kids who think the world revolves around their kids schedules - and everyone without kids should be picking up the slack when they dart out the door at 4:45 regardless of what's going on.

You clearly don't work for Amazon or have a spouse that does. Given they are on calls/working usually 10-12 hours a day, picking up kids at 4:45 is no big deal because you are taking calls in the car, then working for severals after that and when they go to bed. Amazon is a global company and often meetings are in the early AM or late at night and you are expected to do it regardless of if you already put in your 8-10 hours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People are employees at will. If they don’t like RTO they can move on. But I’d wait for the severance package.

They are trying to get people to leave and fire them so they don't have to give severance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Amazon just gave its managers authority to fire workers who won’t RTO 3 days/week. It’s about time.

Why do you care about Amazon? Do you work there or something?

Don’t work there. It’s just an example of a company that pays great overall compensation, yet many workers seem to take it for granted. Same for other FANG and similar jobs. The people who work these jobs seem to think they’re a special class to whom the rules don’t apply. It’s time they’re humbled.

I think it’s very weird you have this manner of thinking and strongly advise you to seek therapy for your character defect.

I mean, wow. Is this mental illness of yours develop recently or have you always had such distorted thinking?

Glad you’re not a therapist. It’s clear you don’t know much about mental illness. In fact, you might look in the mirror, because your views are tone deaf.

I know enough to know you are cuckoo for coco puffs.

What a weird and offensive way you think. It’s completely psychotic.

Psychotic means you’re having hallucinations or distortions of reality, not a difference of opinion. Thanks for having fun at the expense of people with real problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Amazon just gave its managers authority to fire workers who won’t RTO 3 days/week. It’s about time.

Why do you care about Amazon? Do you work there or something?

Don’t work there. It’s just an example of a company that pays great overall compensation, yet many workers seem to take it for granted. Same for other FANG and similar jobs. The people who work these jobs seem to think they’re a special class to whom the rules don’t apply. It’s time they’re humbled.

Actually the compensation is just ok, especially for the amount of hours most work. They are going to lose a lot of good people.

+1. The compensation is not great right now and a lot of people took huge paycuts with low stock prices. Layoffs mean those who are there are being asked to do more with less. I assure you, they've been humbled.

I'm a manager at Amazon and basically just tell people to get those badge swipes even if they go in, get a coffee and leave. We are spread out across the country so there is no team to work with and it's a distracting environment with terrible wifi.

[Anonymous]

Most people are back to work full time in the US. The DC area in a recent report has one of the highest percentage of people still working from home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Amazon just gave its managers authority to fire workers who won’t RTO 3 days/week. It’s about time.

Why do you care about Amazon? Do you work there or something?

Don’t work there. It’s just an example of a company that pays great overall compensation, yet many workers seem to take it for granted. Same for other FANG and similar jobs. The people who work these jobs seem to think they’re a special class to whom the rules don’t apply. It’s time they’re humbled.

Actually the compensation is just ok, especially for the amount of hours most work. They are going to lose a lot of good people.

+1. The compensation is not great right now and a lot of people took huge paycuts with low stock prices. Layoffs mean those who are there are being asked to do more with less. I assure you, they've been humbled.

I'm a manager at Amazon and basically just tell people to get those badge swipes even if they go in, get a coffee and leave. We are spread out across the country so there is no team to work with and it's a distracting environment with terrible wifi.

Don’t you have to badge out as well?