Widespread looting in Philadelphia right now

[Anonymous]

The former president ( and presumptive nominee) of the United States is an indicted criminal.
Why should they follow societal norms?
He ran a criminal enterprise from the White House. Nothing matters anymore.

[Anonymous]

Watch Philly news, not Fox propaganda. No one is defending the looters. More than 50 have been arrested and the police and the mayor and everybody else are loaded for bear. Everyone also says the looters were not protesters and the protests were not a problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Watch Philly news, not Fox propaganda. No one is defending the looters. More than 50 have been arrested and the police and the mayor and everybody else are loaded for bear. Everyone also says the looters were not protesters and the protests were not a problem.

Just FYI.... Fox is reporting on the arrests. More than 6 hours ago:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/philadelphia-looting-dozens-arrested-mobs-ransack-multiple-retail-stores

The police and the mayor may be "loaded for bear." We shall see how serious they are when we see how the DA holds these thugs accountable.
That is where the rubber meets the road.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's disgusting. Crime has run rampant and we cannot seem to do anything about it. This is the result of years of liberal policies of trying to shut down police and give criminals more rights. And here we are. I hope all the stores move out of low income neighborhoods. Stop spending money in these areas. Move all services out. These people deserve jail and nothing more.

I suspect there will be a R landslide in the next election cycle. I've never voted R in my life but see now that the soft on crime policies were clearly wrong. These people deserve absolutely zero sympathy. They're thugs and are destroying our cities.

Bigoted, vile hogwash. You are disgusting.

How can you watch that video and not see desperate people who don’t have enough food to sustain them, and are pushed to acts of desperation like we see here? People with food don’t riot. People who have hope don’t riot. People who believe the6 have a future don’t riot. These are poor, desperate people without hope. That’s what drives them to this.


This is what trump has done to Americans. He’s taken away everything from people who had almost nothing to begin with. Don’t blame these starving people rioting to ge5 food for their children - blame trump. He took away what little they had, and gave it to the rich.

What exactly did Turnip take away from people who had almost nothing to begin with? Can you point me to a policy of his that resulted in poor urban people "losing" what they had? Because if anything, real wages for just about everyone went up nicely during the Trump years, till COVD hit. One of the biggest beneficiaries of the wage gains under his administration were actually black men, which is one reason why Trump's support among non-whites actually went up in 2020 over 2016. Meanwhile, under Biden, most people's real wages went down noticeably due to rampant inflation of the last few years, with working people hit the most.

We can always argue of numbers and debate policy, but until you can show us exactly what Trump taken away from Americans, I can't see anything in your post but delusional hysterics.

Cite this crazy BS you friggin’ liar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's disgusting. Crime has run rampant and we cannot seem to do anything about it. This is the result of years of liberal policies of trying to shut down police and give criminals more rights. And here we are. I hope all the stores move out of low income neighborhoods. Stop spending money in these areas. Move all services out. These people deserve jail and nothing more.

I suspect there will be a R landslide in the next election cycle. I've never voted R in my life but see now that the soft on crime policies were clearly wrong. These people deserve absolutely zero sympathy. They're thugs and are destroying our cities.

Bigoted, vile hogwash. You are disgusting.

How can you watch that video and not see desperate people who don’t have enough food to sustain them, and are pushed to acts of desperation like we see here? People with food don’t riot. People who have hope don’t riot. People who believe the6 have a future don’t riot. These are poor, desperate people without hope. That’s what drives them to this.


This is what trump has done to Americans. He’s taken away everything from people who had almost nothing to begin with. Don’t blame these starving people rioting to ge5 food for their children - blame trump. He took away what little they had, and gave it to the rich.

And you assuming these people are starving because…what exactly? We’ll wait.

Every single liquor store in Philadelphia is closed today. So is the Apple store and Lululemon and Foot Locker. Target is shutting down stores in San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, and New York due to rampant theft and violence against employees. Retail robbery and theft cost stores $112 billion last year alone.

It's out of control. This is how food deserts are born as stores shutter. This is how commercial centers die and whither. This is how jobs are lost. This is how prices increase for everyone. And it's just going to continue until communities start arresting and prosecuting the thugs responsible for the mayhem. This has nothing to do with social justice or poverty. These are violent, immoral criminals and they belong in prison.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's disgusting. Crime has run rampant and we cannot seem to do anything about it. This is the result of years of liberal policies of trying to shut down police and give criminals more rights. And here we are. I hope all the stores move out of low income neighborhoods. Stop spending money in these areas. Move all services out. These people deserve jail and nothing more.

I suspect there will be a R landslide in the next election cycle. I've never voted R in my life but see now that the soft on crime policies were clearly wrong. These people deserve absolutely zero sympathy. They're thugs and are destroying our cities.

Bigoted, vile hogwash. You are disgusting.

How can you watch that video and not see desperate people who don’t have enough food to sustain them, and are pushed to acts of desperation like we see here? People with food don’t riot. People who have hope don’t riot. People who believe the6 have a future don’t riot. These are poor, desperate people without hope. That’s what drives them to this.


This is what trump has done to Americans. He’s taken away everything from people who had almost nothing to begin with. Don’t blame these starving people rioting to ge5 food for their children - blame trump. He took away what little they had, and gave it to the rich.

What exactly did Turnip take away from people who had almost nothing to begin with? Can you point me to a policy of his that resulted in poor urban people "losing" what they had? Because if anything, real wages for just about everyone went up nicely during the Trump years, till COVD hit. One of the biggest beneficiaries of the wage gains under his administration were actually black men, which is one reason why Trump's support among non-whites actually went up in 2020 over 2016. Meanwhile, under Biden, most people's real wages went down noticeably due to rampant inflation of the last few years, with working people hit the most.

We can always argue of numbers and debate policy, but until you can show us exactly what Trump taken away from Americans, I can't see anything in your post but delusional hysterics.

Cite this crazy BS you friggin’ liar.

DP.

There are links in the article to back up the claims.

Unemployment rates for Blacks hovered for months at or near historic lows. Workers with less than a high school diploma and criminal records left the sidelines of the workforce.

Before the coronavirus, the labor force participation rates of Blacks, prime-age workers 25 to 54, and women ticked up from Obama-era lows. Even years into the Obama economic recovery, these workers were still leaving the labor force.

High employment under Trump led to minorities experiencing the largest income gains. Real median income grew by 7.9% for Blacks in 2019. That outpaced 2018’s income growth of 2.6% and 2017’s income decline of -2.4%. Notably, Black median income growth last year surpassed income growth rates under the Obama administration. There’s still more work to do though. Although Black median income hit a new high, Blacks earned the lowest income level of all groups (just over $45,000 a year).

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/11/01/donald-trump-african-american-black-economic-progress-vote-column/6081310002/

[Anonymous]

Some people on this thread need to pick up a history book or two. When the masses are looting, their economic situation has moved beyond desperation. More police will not solve this, but the rolling out of a guillotine has been known to improve the situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some people on this thread need to pick up a history book or two. When the masses are looting, their economic situation has moved beyond desperation. More police will not solve this, but the rolling out of a guillotine has been known to improve the situation.

Are you suggesting that what happened in Philly is just the natural outrage of the proletariat?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some people on this thread need to pick up a history book or two. When the masses are looting, their economic situation has moved beyond desperation. More police will not solve this, but the rolling out of a guillotine has been known to improve the situation.

This was not "the masses."
This was around 100 people who chose to be criminals because they saw an opportunity.
They were not looting out of desperation. They were looting because they saw an opportunity and think they will not suffer consequences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some people on this thread need to pick up a history book or two. When the masses are looting, their economic situation has moved beyond desperation. More police will not solve this, but the rolling out of a guillotine has been known to improve the situation.

No, they are not desperate. Looting booze, iPhones, and Lululemon pants is sheer greed and lawlessness - particularly as most had iPhones to film themselves for social media. What we have are entire communities of young people that aspire to criminality and understand that looting/robbery in large numbers will lead to zero repercussions. I call this laziness, drug use, lack of education, want of SM praise, and all the other vices. Blaming this on anything other than that is willful blindness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And yet the "small town" people attacked our Capitol while shouting "Hang Mike Pence".

The further we get from J6, the more I think about the fact that exactly nothing else close to that has happened from the right ever since. This is despite years of being told that the greatest threat to our security is right wing extremists. And yet, how many of these violent looting instances have occurred? And we are cautioned that we shouldn't even discuss it?

Well, if you don’t count your boys driving across their state to massacre shoppers at a grocery store or a Dollar General or mall or a synagogue or some other place where innocent people are not bothering anyone. There have been quite a few of them. You are right that right-wing gangs haven’t committed a terrorist massacre recently but that’s because they talk so much shit about targeting pride events or drag shows or Blacks or Hispanics or Jews or whatever the target group is today that they eventually say it to a non-delusional human being who rats them out. There have been several those this year. These looters are *NOT* an analogy because they are just criminals, not politically motivated. The political debate is all about the response to them.

I meant “Not an analogy”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some people on this thread need to pick up a history book or two. When the masses are looting, their economic situation has moved beyond desperation. More police will not solve this, but the rolling out of a guillotine has been known to improve the situation.

I like when Republicans try to sound like Democrats. They get close but it’s like an alien in a movie trying to impersonate a human.

No one thinks organized gangs are doing it because they’re hungry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And yet the "small town" people attacked our Capitol while shouting "Hang Mike Pence".

The further we get from J6, the more I think about the fact that exactly nothing else close to that has happened from the right ever since. This is despite years of being told that the greatest threat to our security is right wing extremists. And yet, how many of these violent looting instances have occurred? And we are cautioned that we shouldn't even discuss it?

Well, if you don’t count your boys driving across their state to massacre shoppers at a grocery store or a Dollar General or mall or a synagogue or some other place where innocent people are not bothering anyone. There have been quite a few of them. You are right that right-wing gangs haven’t committed a terrorist massacre recently but that’s because they talk so much shit about targeting pride events or drag shows or Blacks or Hispanics or Jews or whatever the target group is today that they eventually say it to a non-delusional human being who rats them out. There have been several those this year. These looters are an analogy because they are just criminals, not politically motivated. The political debate is all about the response to them.

No, I don't count random anarchic incels or white supremacists as being an average Trump voter, any more than I count the person who shot children at the Nashville school a trans activist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And yet the "small town" people attacked our Capitol while shouting "Hang Mike Pence".

The further we get from J6, the more I think about the fact that exactly nothing else close to that has happened from the right ever since. This is despite years of being told that the greatest threat to our security is right wing extremists. And yet, how many of these violent looting instances have occurred? And we are cautioned that we shouldn't even discuss it?

Well, if you don’t count your boys driving across their state to massacre shoppers at a grocery store or a Dollar General or mall or a synagogue or some other place where innocent people are not bothering anyone. There have been quite a few of them. You are right that right-wing gangs haven’t committed a terrorist massacre recently but that’s because they talk so much shit about targeting pride events or drag shows or Blacks or Hispanics or Jews or whatever the target group is today that they eventually say it to a non-delusional human being who rats them out. There have been several those this year. These looters are an analogy because they are just criminals, not politically motivated. The political debate is all about the response to them.

No, I don't count random anarchic incels or white supremacists as being an average Trump voter, any more than I count the person who shot children at the Nashville school a trans activist.

But you count teenage looters as representatives of average liberals? You are all bad faith.

The right wing shooters were your people, exactly the people Trump and his sycophants seek to incite every day. They may not mean for them to shoot people but they do mean for them to stay angry and delusional and threatening so that every Republican is a MAGA heel-clicker because they are afraid that he will turn his mob on them.

[Anonymous]

Both sides of you guys are living in a Kojak episode from the 70s. It’s not like that. I would bet a lot of these looters are not poor or neglected. When DC had looting at the same time as protests, many looters were not from poor DC neighborhoods, and not even from DC. Stores in NW DC were hit by coordinated carloads from the suburbs. They saw an easy opportunity while law enforcement was distracted, similar to all the business people who committed billions of dollars of PPP fraud and other Covid fraud to loot taxpayers when they knew they could get away with it.