The Shift in the Democratic Party

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I don’t disagree up to a certain point. The warmongering is neoconish. And the blind worship of intelligence agencies is weird and out of step with a party that used to reasonably question “the man.” Both parties are wobbly on free speech.

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Anonymous wrote:Been a democrat all my life, voted for Obama, Clinton and reluctantly for Biden over the last election.
What happened to the party? This use to be the party of free speech, anti-war, about freedom of religion and about helping the poor and disaffected that were hurt by the pains of globalization.

I have seen over the past decade the party being completely co-opted by the military industrial complex, to the point where people are foaming at the mouth over wanting to fight in Ukraine. I have seen the party completely ditch the struggling blue collar worker to get into bed with large tech billionaires. I have seen it now completely on the side of censorship and the use of authoritarian tactics when it comes with dealing with oppositional speech.

The democratic party now reminds me of the neocons of the Bush era? Anyone else get this feeling?

Our politicians are bought by corporations. Neither side gives a F about workers.

Except that Democrats supports workers’ rights, unions, workers safety, C suite sharing profits with the employees who helped earn those profits, minimum wage and living wages, health care for all and the GOP opposes all of the above.

So yeah. Samesies. Both sides. Orrrrr anyone both sidesing this is a garbage Republican.

PP here. Agreed. No not the same. I’m a Democrat and will never vote for the current GOP. I believe in climate change. I’m pro choice. Support LBGTQ rights. I’m scared of the Christian fascists. Im pro workers’ rights. But I still think the powerful on both sides do not have the interests of the average American at heart. It all boils down to money and the 1% having all the power.

Why is Joe going to the Picket line and how exactly does that help the 1%?

Trump also went to Detroit.

Trump is planning a Trump rally in Clinton Township, 25 miles from Detroit. That’s not even close to the equivalent of walking the UAW picket line. At least you tried?

I’m not a trump supporter but your criticism of him going to Clinton Twp and not Detroit is ridiculous. How is Clinton Twp less Detroit than Van Buren Twp where Biden went??? You should have stuck with union versus non-union shops. You make Democrats look bad.

— native inner city Detroiter

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, I don’t disagree up to a certain point. The warmongering is neoconish. And the blind worship of intelligence agencies is weird and out of step with a party that used to reasonably question “the man.” Both parties are wobbly on free speech.

I'll never understand the talking point that funding Ukrainian resistance is warmongering. There are no boots on the ground. There is no agitation to put boots on the ground. It's such a miniscule outlay compared to Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, etc, and for significantly larger and more salient benefits. Questioning "the man" is still very much a thing in the terminally-online leftist wing of the party, but they don't have any sway. Democratic elected representatives are much more pragmatic.

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Anonymous wrote:Been a democrat all my life, voted for Obama, Clinton and reluctantly for Biden over the last election.
What happened to the party? This use to be the party of free speech, anti-war, about freedom of religion and about helping the poor and disaffected that were hurt by the pains of globalization.

I have seen over the past decade the party being completely co-opted by the military industrial complex, to the point where people are foaming at the mouth over wanting to fight in Ukraine. I have seen the party completely ditch the struggling blue collar worker to get into bed with large tech billionaires. I have seen it now completely on the side of censorship and the use of authoritarian tactics when it comes with dealing with oppositional speech.

The democratic party now reminds me of the neocons of the Bush era? Anyone else get this feeling?

Our politicians are bought by corporations. Neither side gives a F about workers.

Except that Democrats supports workers’ rights, unions, workers safety, C suite sharing profits with the employees who helped earn those profits, minimum wage and living wages, health care for all and the GOP opposes all of the above.

So yeah. Samesies. Both sides. Orrrrr anyone both sidesing this is a garbage Republican.

PP here. Agreed. No not the same. I’m a Democrat and will never vote for the current GOP. I believe in climate change. I’m pro choice. Support LBGTQ rights. I’m scared of the Christian fascists. Im pro workers’ rights. But I still think the powerful on both sides do not have the interests of the average American at heart. It all boils down to money and the 1% having all the power.

Why is Joe going to the Picket line and how exactly does that help the 1%?

Trump also went to Detroit.

Trump is planning a Trump rally in Clinton Township, 25 miles from Detroit. That’s not even close to the equivalent of walking the UAW picket line. At least you tried?

I’m not a trump supporter but your criticism of him going to Clinton Twp and not Detroit is ridiculous. How is Clinton Twp less Detroit than Van Buren Twp where Biden went??? You should have stuck with union versus non-union shops. You make Democrats look bad.

— native inner city Detroiter

I’m highlighting the inaccuracies in media reporting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, I don’t disagree up to a certain point. The warmongering is neoconish. And the blind worship of intelligence agencies is weird and out of step with a party that used to reasonably question “the man.” Both parties are wobbly on free speech.

All misinformation and straw men. We didn’t start any war. We are defending an independent country that was attacked by a lunatic imperialist who is hostile to the U.S. and all our allies. It is in our national interest. Supporting allies against imperialism is one the two great international policies that has made America great in our history. The other is taking in immigrants and refugees who are victims of imperialists and other tyrants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Been a democrat all my life, voted for Obama, Clinton and reluctantly for Biden over the last election.
What happened to the party? This use to be the party of free speech, anti-war, about freedom of religion and about helping the poor and disaffected that were hurt by the pains of globalization.

I have seen over the past decade the party being completely co-opted by the military industrial complex, to the point where people are foaming at the mouth over wanting to fight in Ukraine. I have seen the party completely ditch the struggling blue collar worker to get into bed with large tech billionaires. I have seen it now completely on the side of censorship and the use of authoritarian tactics when it comes with dealing with oppositional speech.

The democratic party now reminds me of the neocons of the Bush era? Anyone else get this feeling?

Chicken Little is back!! The sky isn't falling, CL. It's just rain. You go back to your little chicken coop.

Politics evolve so take off your blinders and see that Biden is still preferable to the right wing crazies/MAGA
evangelicals!

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I don’t disagree up to a certain point. The warmongering is neoconish. And the blind worship of intelligence agencies is weird and out of step with a party that used to reasonably question “the man.” Both parties are wobbly on free speech.

All misinformation and straw men. We didn’t start any war. We are defending an independent country that was attacked by a lunatic imperialist who is hostile to the U.S. and all our allies. It is in our national interest. Supporting allies against imperialism is one the two great international policies that has made America great in our history. The other is taking in immigrants and refugees who are victims of imperialists and other tyrants.

Well, I agree the victims of socialism and communism deserve consideration. It's unfortunate those isms are so incredibly destructive to human rights.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I don’t disagree up to a certain point. The warmongering is neoconish. And the blind worship of intelligence agencies is weird and out of step with a party that used to reasonably question “the man.” Both parties are wobbly on free speech.

All misinformation and straw men. We didn’t start any war. We are defending an independent country that was attacked by a lunatic imperialist who is hostile to the U.S. and all our allies. It is in our national interest. Supporting allies against imperialism is one the two great international policies that has made America great in our history. The other is taking in immigrants and refugees who are victims of imperialists and other tyrants.

Well, I agree the victims of socialism and communism deserve consideration. It's unfortunate those isms are so incredibly destructive to human rights.

Hands off my Medicare, though, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I don’t disagree up to a certain point. The warmongering is neoconish. And the blind worship of intelligence agencies is weird and out of step with a party that used to reasonably question “the man.” Both parties are wobbly on free speech.

All misinformation and straw men. We didn’t start any war. We are defending an independent country that was attacked by a lunatic imperialist who is hostile to the U.S. and all our allies. It is in our national interest. Supporting allies against imperialism is one the two great international policies that has made America great in our history. The other is taking in immigrants and refugees who are victims of imperialists and other tyrants.

Well, I agree the victims of socialism and communism deserve consideration. It's unfortunate those isms are so incredibly destructive to human rights.

Hands off my Medicare, though, right?

And get those Venezuelan illegals outta muh country!

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I don’t disagree up to a certain point. The warmongering is neoconish. And the blind worship of intelligence agencies is weird and out of step with a party that used to reasonably question “the man.” Both parties are wobbly on free speech.

All misinformation and straw men. We didn’t start any war. We are defending an independent country that was attacked by a lunatic imperialist who is hostile to the U.S. and all our allies. It is in our national interest. Supporting allies against imperialism is one the two great international policies that has made America great in our history. The other is taking in immigrants and refugees who are victims of imperialists and other tyrants.

Well, I agree the victims of socialism and communism deserve consideration. It's unfortunate those isms are so incredibly destructive to human rights.

Hands off my Medicare, though, right?

Maybe I'll care in 25 years. I was forced into this system. I'd prefer it not exist but I have no choice in the matter. I'm not rich enough to make up for the loss of income from those taxes to make my own way. Guess what... that doesn't make me like it more.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I don’t disagree up to a certain point. The warmongering is neoconish. And the blind worship of intelligence agencies is weird and out of step with a party that used to reasonably question “the man.” Both parties are wobbly on free speech.

I'll never understand the talking point that funding Ukrainian resistance is warmongering. There are no boots on the ground. There is no agitation to put boots on the ground. It's such a miniscule outlay compared to Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, etc, and for significantly larger and more salient benefits. Questioning "the man" is still very much a thing in the terminally-online leftist wing of the party, but they don't have any sway. Democratic elected representatives are much more pragmatic.

That’s the neoliberal view right here, folks!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, I don’t disagree up to a certain point. The warmongering is neoconish. And the blind worship of intelligence agencies is weird and out of step with a party that used to reasonably question “the man.” Both parties are wobbly on free speech.

All misinformation and straw men. We didn’t start any war. We are defending an independent country that was attacked by a lunatic imperialist who is hostile to the U.S. and all our allies. It is in our national interest. Supporting allies against imperialism is one the two great international policies that has made America great in our history. The other is taking in immigrants and refugees who are victims of imperialists and other tyrants.

OK, if you say so.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I don’t disagree up to a certain point. The warmongering is neoconish. And the blind worship of intelligence agencies is weird and out of step with a party that used to reasonably question “the man.” Both parties are wobbly on free speech.

All misinformation and straw men. We didn’t start any war. We are defending an independent country that was attacked by a lunatic imperialist who is hostile to the U.S. and all our allies. It is in our national interest. Supporting allies against imperialism is one the two great international policies that has made America great in our history. The other is taking in immigrants and refugees who are victims of imperialists and other tyrants.

Well, I agree the victims of socialism and communism deserve consideration. It's unfortunate those isms are so incredibly destructive to human rights.

Hands off my Medicare, though, right?

Maybe I'll care in 25 years. I was forced into this system. I'd prefer it not exist but I have no choice in the matter. I'm not rich enough to make up for the loss of income from those taxes to make my own way. Guess what... that doesn't make me like it more.

Sure it does. If you really believed that all taxes are theft and Medicaid is one step closer to Socialist Hell then you'd go move to another country where you don't have to suffer through government-provided insurance. Maybe even forgo your social security. But I bet you're not going to do that.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I don’t disagree up to a certain point. The warmongering is neoconish. And the blind worship of intelligence agencies is weird and out of step with a party that used to reasonably question “the man.” Both parties are wobbly on free speech.

I'll never understand the talking point that funding Ukrainian resistance is warmongering. There are no boots on the ground. There is no agitation to put boots on the ground. It's such a miniscule outlay compared to Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, etc, and for significantly larger and more salient benefits. Questioning "the man" is still very much a thing in the terminally-online leftist wing of the party, but they don't have any sway. Democratic elected representatives are much more pragmatic.

That’s the neoliberal view right here, folks!

I've been wondering where the Tulsi/okfineI'llvoteTrump contingent was here lately. You out campaigning for RFK Jr these days?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, I don’t disagree up to a certain point. The warmongering is neoconish. And the blind worship of intelligence agencies is weird and out of step with a party that used to reasonably question “the man.” Both parties are wobbly on free speech.

All misinformation and straw men. We didn’t start any war. We are defending an independent country that was attacked by a lunatic imperialist who is hostile to the U.S. and all our allies. It is in our national interest. Supporting allies against imperialism is one the two great international policies that has made America great in our history. The other is taking in immigrants and refugees who are victims of imperialists and other tyrants.

Well, I agree the victims of socialism and communism deserve consideration. It's unfortunate those isms are so incredibly destructive to human rights.

Hands off my Medicare, though, right?

Maybe I'll care in 25 years. I was forced into this system. I'd prefer it not exist but I have no choice in the matter. I'm not rich enough to make up for the loss of income from those taxes to make my own way. Guess what... that doesn't make me like it more.

Sure it does. If you really believed that all taxes are theft and Medicaid is one step closer to Socialist Hell then you'd go move to another country where you don't have to suffer through government-provided insurance. Maybe even forgo your social security. But I bet you're not going to do that.

So if you don't agree with all policies and programs administered by the government, you have to move to another country? 🙄