Tech is back -- when will DH get a new tech sales role

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Clearly tech isn't back or something else is going on if OP husband cannot get a new job quickly and is as good as she says.

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Anonymous wrote:Clearly tech isn't back or something else is going on if OP husband cannot get a new job quickly and is as good as she says.

How the F would OP know, she’s a SAHM and he’s a hard charging tech bro looking for his next “play”

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Anonymous wrote:Companies having good profits has nothing to do with mhiring. Most are cutting back so they can get those profits.

But IPO raises big mounds of cash to invest in business which usually means hiring.

Or outsourcing to companies and technology that don't need to bring on staff to execute contract.

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Gosh this is eye opening just how little tech people know about their own industries. Interest rates have crushed the ability to raise money and tech is not coming back like it was. Layoffs have plateaued because everyone was laid off. Companies are getting back to the fundamentals, and there will always be a need for really good salespeople who willingly work 90+ hours a week on the road for their high salary, but there won’t be a need for 100 salespeople who work from home. If your husband was a really good salesperson he would’ve had a job by now, that’s just the truth. Chances are he was average and probably needs to think about a career pivot.

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Anonymous wrote:Gosh this is eye opening just how little tech people know about their own industries. Interest rates have crushed the ability to raise money and tech is not coming back like it was. Layoffs have plateaued because everyone was laid off. Companies are getting back to the fundamentals, and there will always be a need for really good salespeople who willingly work 90+ hours a week on the road for their high salary, but there won’t be a need for 100 salespeople who work from home. If your husband was a really good salesperson he would’ve had a job by now, that’s just the truth. Chances are he was average and probably needs to think about a career pivot.

Hard truth OP. Getting a job is about selling yourself, and your DH can’t even do that. You need to get a full time job pronto, he probably needs to go back to school.

[Anonymous]

Life is so precarious...good luck op.

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Anonymous wrote:Gosh this is eye opening just how little tech people know about their own industries. Interest rates have crushed the ability to raise money and tech is not coming back like it was. Layoffs have plateaued because everyone was laid off. Companies are getting back to the fundamentals, and there will always be a need for really good salespeople who willingly work 90+ hours a week on the road for their high salary, but there won’t be a need for 100 salespeople who work from home. If your husband was a really good salesperson he would’ve had a job by now, that’s just the truth. Chances are he was average and probably needs to think about a career pivot.

Hard truth OP. Getting a job is about selling yourself, and your DH can’t even do that. You need to get a full time job pronto, he probably needs to go back to school.

I’m the PP and this is bad advice. Do not take on school loans, salespeople are generally very employable in a wide variety of jobs so take advantage of existing skills. Likely will not come close to making prior salary so adjust your lifestyle.

Working in tech (especially tech sales) the past ten years was like winning the lottery. An incredible environment thanks to the fed to make a lot of money and few actually got a chance at it so congrats! But like the lottery, you already got it and the odds are well-stacked that nothing like that will happen again in our lifetime.

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Anonymous wrote:Gosh this is eye opening just how little tech people know about their own industries. Interest rates have crushed the ability to raise money and tech is not coming back like it was. Layoffs have plateaued because everyone was laid off. Companies are getting back to the fundamentals, and there will always be a need for really good salespeople who willingly work 90+ hours a week on the road for their high salary, but there won’t be a need for 100 salespeople who work from home. If your husband was a really good salesperson he would’ve had a job by now, that’s just the truth. Chances are he was average and probably needs to think about a career pivot.

Hard truth OP. Getting a job is about selling yourself, and your DH can’t even do that. You need to get a full time job pronto, he probably needs to go back to school.

I’m the PP and this is bad advice. Do not take on school loans, salespeople are generally very employable in a wide variety of jobs so take advantage of existing skills. Likely will not come close to making prior salary so adjust your lifestyle.

Working in tech (especially tech sales) the past ten years was like winning the lottery. An incredible environment thanks to the fed to make a lot of money and few actually got a chance at it so congrats! But like the lottery, you already got it and the odds are well-stacked that nothing like that will happen again in our lifetime.

What kind of jobs should a tech sales bro former bartender aim for? Curious what skills are so marketable?

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Anonymous wrote:Gosh this is eye opening just how little tech people know about their own industries. Interest rates have crushed the ability to raise money and tech is not coming back like it was. Layoffs have plateaued because everyone was laid off. Companies are getting back to the fundamentals, and there will always be a need for really good salespeople who willingly work 90+ hours a week on the road for their high salary, but there won’t be a need for 100 salespeople who work from home. If your husband was a really good salesperson he would’ve had a job by now, that’s just the truth. Chances are he was average and probably needs to think about a career pivot.

Hard truth OP. Getting a job is about selling yourself, and your DH can’t even do that. You need to get a full time job pronto, he probably needs to go back to school.

I’m the PP and this is bad advice. Do not take on school loans, salespeople are generally very employable in a wide variety of jobs so take advantage of existing skills. Likely will not come close to making prior salary so adjust your lifestyle.

Working in tech (especially tech sales) the past ten years was like winning the lottery. An incredible environment thanks to the fed to make a lot of money and few actually got a chance at it so congrats! But like the lottery, you already got it and the odds are well-stacked that nothing like that will happen again in our lifetime.

What kind of jobs should a tech sales bro former bartender aim for? Curious what skills are so marketable?

Truck driver? Bartender? Garbage man?

Jobs that people aren’t jumping to fill and that don’t pay anywhere near what OP’s husband made.

Salespeople, man. Never underestimate their stupidity.

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Anonymous wrote:Gosh this is eye opening just how little tech people know about their own industries. Interest rates have crushed the ability to raise money and tech is not coming back like it was. Layoffs have plateaued because everyone was laid off. Companies are getting back to the fundamentals, and there will always be a need for really good salespeople who willingly work 90+ hours a week on the road for their high salary, but there won’t be a need for 100 salespeople who work from home. If your husband was a really good salesperson he would’ve had a job by now, that’s just the truth. Chances are he was average and probably needs to think about a career pivot.

Hard truth OP. Getting a job is about selling yourself, and your DH can’t even do that. You need to get a full time job pronto, he probably needs to go back to school.

I’m the PP and this is bad advice. Do not take on school loans, salespeople are generally very employable in a wide variety of jobs so take advantage of existing skills. Likely will not come close to making prior salary so adjust your lifestyle.

Working in tech (especially tech sales) the past ten years was like winning the lottery. An incredible environment thanks to the fed to make a lot of money and few actually got a chance at it so congrats! But like the lottery, you already got it and the odds are well-stacked that nothing like that will happen again in our lifetime.

What kind of jobs should a tech sales bro former bartender aim for? Curious what skills are so marketable?

Truck driver? Bartender? Garbage man?

Jobs that people aren’t jumping to fill and that don’t pay anywhere near what OP’s husband made.

Salespeople, man. Never underestimate their stupidity.

Why the snark? Her DH sounded like he wanted to be a journalist but clearly that’s a dead end career. Pivoting isn’t trivial

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Anonymous wrote:Gosh this is eye opening just how little tech people know about their own industries. Interest rates have crushed the ability to raise money and tech is not coming back like it was. Layoffs have plateaued because everyone was laid off. Companies are getting back to the fundamentals, and there will always be a need for really good salespeople who willingly work 90+ hours a week on the road for their high salary, but there won’t be a need for 100 salespeople who work from home. If your husband was a really good salesperson he would’ve had a job by now, that’s just the truth. Chances are he was average and probably needs to think about a career pivot.

Hard truth OP. Getting a job is about selling yourself, and your DH can’t even do that. You need to get a full time job pronto, he probably needs to go back to school.

I’m the PP and this is bad advice. Do not take on school loans, salespeople are generally very employable in a wide variety of jobs so take advantage of existing skills. Likely will not come close to making prior salary so adjust your lifestyle.

Working in tech (especially tech sales) the past ten years was like winning the lottery. An incredible environment thanks to the fed to make a lot of money and few actually got a chance at it so congrats! But like the lottery, you already got it and the odds are well-stacked that nothing like that will happen again in our lifetime.

What kind of jobs should a tech sales bro former bartender aim for? Curious what skills are so marketable?

Truck driver? Bartender? Garbage man?

Jobs that people aren’t jumping to fill and that don’t pay anywhere near what OP’s husband made.

Salespeople, man. Never underestimate their stupidity.

Why the snark? Her DH sounded like he wanted to be a journalist but clearly that’s a dead end career. Pivoting isn’t trivial

Lol, it's not the pivoting that would be trivial. That would in fact be incredibly smart.

I was dead serious in my suggestions. They are stupid because they don't realize they (a) have no skill set, (b) got incredibly lucky to make that kind of money and (c) thought that the salary they earned had to do with them, not the economy, so raised their standard of living to match that temporary HHI.

They need to go do unskilled labor now.

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Anonymous wrote:Gosh this is eye opening just how little tech people know about their own industries. Interest rates have crushed the ability to raise money and tech is not coming back like it was. Layoffs have plateaued because everyone was laid off. Companies are getting back to the fundamentals, and there will always be a need for really good salespeople who willingly work 90+ hours a week on the road for their high salary, but there won’t be a need for 100 salespeople who work from home. If your husband was a really good salesperson he would’ve had a job by now, that’s just the truth. Chances are he was average and probably needs to think about a career pivot.

Hard truth OP. Getting a job is about selling yourself, and your DH can’t even do that. You need to get a full time job pronto, he probably needs to go back to school.

I’m the PP and this is bad advice. Do not take on school loans, salespeople are generally very employable in a wide variety of jobs so take advantage of existing skills. Likely will not come close to making prior salary so adjust your lifestyle.

Working in tech (especially tech sales) the past ten years was like winning the lottery. An incredible environment thanks to the fed to make a lot of money and few actually got a chance at it so congrats! But like the lottery, you already got it and the odds are well-stacked that nothing like that will happen again in our lifetime.

What kind of jobs should a tech sales bro former bartender aim for? Curious what skills are so marketable?

Truck driver? Bartender? Garbage man?

Jobs that people aren’t jumping to fill and that don’t pay anywhere near what OP’s husband made.

Salespeople, man. Never underestimate their stupidity.

Why the snark? Her DH sounded like he wanted to be a journalist but clearly that’s a dead end career. Pivoting isn’t trivial

Lol, it's not the pivoting that would be trivial. That would in fact be incredibly smart.

I was dead serious in my suggestions. They are stupid because they don't realize they (a) have no skill set, (b) got incredibly lucky to make that kind of money and (c) thought that the salary they earned had to do with them, not the economy, so raised their standard of living to match that temporary HHI.

They need to go do unskilled labor now.

PP here. And no one gets a journalism major because they want to be a journalist. It's easy and he wanted to party.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s October basically. Another month.

DH is getting demoralized after calling in every network he could. He is desperate to find his next play in tech sales, but nothing is coming through.

We may have to sell our house if no job by January. Move back in with my parents which I know will be really really hard in their small house with all 4 of us.

He needs to take any job he can get. Where is your savings?

What else can sales guys do? Before tech sales he was a bartender, studied journalism in college.

It sounds like this is the problem. He lacks the skill and experience. He can go back to bartending. Anything is better than nothing.

He’s been in tech sales 8 years, can turn back now.

He’s way too old to bartend. What about gov contracting? I just want something stable; he’s changed jobs every year and now this layoff, the money was great but clearly not at FU money so kind of a roller coaster.

Too old to bartend??? What kind of ageist BS is that? And gov't contracting is the opposite of stable. I think you both might need a reality check. My husband would get a job mopping floors at 7-11 if that's what it took to put food on the table. And you can walk into an interview and hold your head high and say that you took what you could while looking cuz that's better than sitting around doing nothing; they don't care that job hunting can be a full time job. They see a resume gap and what to know what was up. Telling them you were sitting around waiting, only looking for one type of job shows a lack of flexibility and adaptability. Beggars can't be choosers.

But we neee a professional salary to keep food on the table. Waiting tables and earning $20/hr will not extend our runway at all. We live in California, so our crummy townhouse costs $1.5M — that’s a huge chunk of change — we need $60k after tax just to cover mortgage. A $41k pretax job is foolish — he needs to be hustling for the next sales job not burning time and energy for months to buy is 1 more weeks of mortgage payments.

Remind me how $0/year gets you closer to $60K take home than $41k per year.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s October basically. Another month.

DH is getting demoralized after calling in every network he could. He is desperate to find his next play in tech sales, but nothing is coming through.

We may have to sell our house if no job by January. Move back in with my parents which I know will be really really hard in their small house with all 4 of us.

He needs to take any job he can get. Where is your savings?

What else can sales guys do? Before tech sales he was a bartender, studied journalism in college.

It sounds like this is the problem. He lacks the skill and experience. He can go back to bartending. Anything is better than nothing.

He’s been in tech sales 8 years, can turn back now.

He’s way too old to bartend. What about gov contracting? I just want something stable; he’s changed jobs every year and now this layoff, the money was great but clearly not at FU money so kind of a roller coaster.

Too old to bartend??? What kind of ageist BS is that? And gov't contracting is the opposite of stable. I think you both might need a reality check. My husband would get a job mopping floors at 7-11 if that's what it took to put food on the table. And you can walk into an interview and hold your head high and say that you took what you could while looking cuz that's better than sitting around doing nothing; they don't care that job hunting can be a full time job. They see a resume gap and what to know what was up. Telling them you were sitting around waiting, only looking for one type of job shows a lack of flexibility and adaptability. Beggars can't be choosers.

But we neee a professional salary to keep food on the table. Waiting tables and earning $20/hr will not extend our runway at all. We live in California, so our crummy townhouse costs $1.5M — that’s a huge chunk of change — we need $60k after tax just to cover mortgage. A $41k pretax job is foolish — he needs to be hustling for the next sales job not burning time and energy for months to buy is 1 more weeks of mortgage payments.

Remind me how $0/year gets you closer to $60K take home than $41k per year.

Because they ask what you make now rather than basing off what you used to make.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s October basically. Another month.

DH is getting demoralized after calling in every network he could. He is desperate to find his next play in tech sales, but nothing is coming through.

We may have to sell our house if no job by January. Move back in with my parents which I know will be really really hard in their small house with all 4 of us.

He needs to take any job he can get. Where is your savings?

What else can sales guys do? Before tech sales he was a bartender, studied journalism in college.

It sounds like this is the problem. He lacks the skill and experience. He can go back to bartending. Anything is better than nothing.

He’s been in tech sales 8 years, can turn back now.

He’s way too old to bartend. What about gov contracting? I just want something stable; he’s changed jobs every year and now this layoff, the money was great but clearly not at FU money so kind of a roller coaster.

Too old to bartend??? What kind of ageist BS is that? And gov't contracting is the opposite of stable. I think you both might need a reality check. My husband would get a job mopping floors at 7-11 if that's what it took to put food on the table. And you can walk into an interview and hold your head high and say that you took what you could while looking cuz that's better than sitting around doing nothing; they don't care that job hunting can be a full time job. They see a resume gap and what to know what was up. Telling them you were sitting around waiting, only looking for one type of job shows a lack of flexibility and adaptability. Beggars can't be choosers.

But we neee a professional salary to keep food on the table. Waiting tables and earning $20/hr will not extend our runway at all. We live in California, so our crummy townhouse costs $1.5M — that’s a huge chunk of change — we need $60k after tax just to cover mortgage. A $41k pretax job is foolish — he needs to be hustling for the next sales job not burning time and energy for months to buy is 1 more weeks of mortgage payments.

Remind me how $0/year gets you closer to $60K take home than $41k per year.

Because they ask what you make now rather than basing off what you used to make.

This is a shit argument at best. Try again.