Tech is back -- when will DH get a new tech sales role

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Anonymous wrote:It’s October basically. Another month.

DH is getting demoralized after calling in every network he could. He is desperate to find his next play in tech sales, but nothing is coming through.

We may have to sell our house if no job by January. Move back in with my parents which I know will be really really hard in their small house with all 4 of us.

He needs to take any job he can get. Where is your savings?

What else can sales guys do? Before tech sales he was a bartender, studied journalism in college.

It sounds like this is the problem. He lacks the skill and experience. He can go back to bartending. Anything is better than nothing.

He’s been in tech sales 8 years, can turn back now.

He’s way too old to bartend. What about gov contracting? I just want something stable; he’s changed jobs every year and now this layoff, the money was great but clearly not at FU money so kind of a roller coaster.

Fellow tech sales (and non-tech sales) person here. Your DH needs a career change. If he switched jobs every year then he likely wasn’t very good. They money was good for everyone for the last decade but the gravy train is over for everyone but the best salespeople.

He is not going to make $400k a year. He needs to look for a people skills job. Something interfacing with clients. Account management/CS. Needs to look outside tech and you need a FT job. Sounds like you all live beyond your means. Tighten your budget, downgrade your cars, no vacations, no restaurants, no new clothes, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s October basically. Another month.

DH is getting demoralized after calling in every network he could. He is desperate to find his next play in tech sales, but nothing is coming through.

We may have to sell our house if no job by January. Move back in with my parents which I know will be really really hard in their small house with all 4 of us.

He needs to take any job he can get. Where is your savings?

What else can sales guys do? Before tech sales he was a bartender, studied journalism in college.

It sounds like this is the problem. He lacks the skill and experience. He can go back to bartending. Anything is better than nothing.

He’s been in tech sales 8 years, can turn back now.

He’s way too old to bartend. What about gov contracting? I just want something stable; he’s changed jobs every year and now this layoff, the money was great but clearly not at FU money so kind of a roller coaster.

Fellow tech sales (and non-tech sales) person here. Your DH needs a career change. If he switched jobs every year then he likely wasn’t very good. They money was good for everyone for the last decade but the gravy train is over for everyone but the best salespeople.

He is not going to make $400k a year. He needs to look for a people skills job. Something interfacing with clients. Account management/CS. Needs to look outside tech and you need a FT job. Sounds like you all live beyond your means. Tighten your budget, downgrade your cars, no vacations, no restaurants, no new clothes, etc.

There is no point about living like paupers. The mortgage will be the problem.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s October basically. Another month.

DH is getting demoralized after calling in every network he could. He is desperate to find his next play in tech sales, but nothing is coming through.

We may have to sell our house if no job by January. Move back in with my parents which I know will be really really hard in their small house with all 4 of us.

He needs to take any job he can get. Where is your savings?

What else can sales guys do? Before tech sales he was a bartender, studied journalism in college.

It sounds like this is the problem. He lacks the skill and experience. He can go back to bartending. Anything is better than nothing.

He’s been in tech sales 8 years, can turn back now.

He’s way too old to bartend. What about gov contracting? I just want something stable; he’s changed jobs every year and now this layoff, the money was great but clearly not at FU money so kind of a roller coaster.

Fellow tech sales (and non-tech sales) person here. Your DH needs a career change. If he switched jobs every year then he likely wasn’t very good. They money was good for everyone for the last decade but the gravy train is over for everyone but the best salespeople.

He is not going to make $400k a year. He needs to look for a people skills job. Something interfacing with clients. Account management/CS. Needs to look outside tech and you need a FT job. Sounds like you all live beyond your means. Tighten your budget, downgrade your cars, no vacations, no restaurants, no new clothes, etc.

He was switching jobs for bigger pay raises each time. I thought that was what everyone did?

[Anonymous]

Restaurants are hiring. I want to retire, but we can't find workers.
More layoffs coming. He needs to come up with something until it all turns around. It may take 2-3 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Restaurants are hiring. I want to retire, but we can't find workers.
More layoffs coming. He needs to come up with something until it all turns around. It may take 2-3 years.

Tech sales to waiting tables??? What?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s October basically. Another month.

DH is getting demoralized after calling in every network he could. He is desperate to find his next play in tech sales, but nothing is coming through.

We may have to sell our house if no job by January. Move back in with my parents which I know will be really really hard in their small house with all 4 of us.

He needs to take any job he can get. Where is your savings?

What else can sales guys do? Before tech sales he was a bartender, studied journalism in college.

It sounds like this is the problem. He lacks the skill and experience. He can go back to bartending. Anything is better than nothing.

He’s been in tech sales 8 years, can turn back now.

He’s way too old to bartend. What about gov contracting? I just want something stable; he’s changed jobs every year and now this layoff, the money was great but clearly not at FU money so kind of a roller coaster.

Fellow tech sales (and non-tech sales) person here. Your DH needs a career change. If he switched jobs every year then he likely wasn’t very good. They money was good for everyone for the last decade but the gravy train is over for everyone but the best salespeople.

He is not going to make $400k a year. He needs to look for a people skills job. Something interfacing with clients. Account management/CS. Needs to look outside tech and you need a FT job. Sounds like you all live beyond your means. Tighten your budget, downgrade your cars, no vacations, no restaurants, no new clothes, etc.

There is no point about living like paupers. The mortgage will be the problem.

Yes there is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s October basically. Another month.

DH is getting demoralized after calling in every network he could. He is desperate to find his next play in tech sales, but nothing is coming through.

We may have to sell our house if no job by January. Move back in with my parents which I know will be really really hard in their small house with all 4 of us.

He needs to take any job he can get. Where is your savings?

What else can sales guys do? Before tech sales he was a bartender, studied journalism in college.

It sounds like this is the problem. He lacks the skill and experience. He can go back to bartending. Anything is better than nothing.

He’s been in tech sales 8 years, can turn back now.

He’s way too old to bartend. What about gov contracting? I just want something stable; he’s changed jobs every year and now this layoff, the money was great but clearly not at FU money so kind of a roller coaster.

Fellow tech sales (and non-tech sales) person here. Your DH needs a career change. If he switched jobs every year then he likely wasn’t very good. They money was good for everyone for the last decade but the gravy train is over for everyone but the best salespeople.

He is not going to make $400k a year. He needs to look for a people skills job. Something interfacing with clients. Account management/CS. Needs to look outside tech and you need a FT job. Sounds like you all live beyond your means. Tighten your budget, downgrade your cars, no vacations, no restaurants, no new clothes, etc.

He was switching jobs for bigger pay raises each time. I thought that was what everyone did?

And now that is over. This is good advice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s October basically. Another month.

DH is getting demoralized after calling in every network he could. He is desperate to find his next play in tech sales, but nothing is coming through.

We may have to sell our house if no job by January. Move back in with my parents which I know will be really really hard in their small house with all 4 of us.

He needs to take any job he can get. Where is your savings?

What else can sales guys do? Before tech sales he was a bartender, studied journalism in college.

It sounds like this is the problem. He lacks the skill and experience. He can go back to bartending. Anything is better than nothing.

He’s been in tech sales 8 years, can turn back now.

He’s way too old to bartend. What about gov contracting? I just want something stable; he’s changed jobs every year and now this layoff, the money was great but clearly not at FU money so kind of a roller coaster.

Fellow tech sales (and non-tech sales) person here. Your DH needs a career change. If he switched jobs every year then he likely wasn’t very good. They money was good for everyone for the last decade but the gravy train is over for everyone but the best salespeople.

He is not going to make $400k a year. He needs to look for a people skills job. Something interfacing with clients. Account management/CS. Needs to look outside tech and you need a FT job. Sounds like you all live beyond your means. Tighten your budget, downgrade your cars, no vacations, no restaurants, no new clothes, etc.

He was switching jobs for bigger pay raises each time. I thought that was what everyone did?

And now that is over. This is good advice.

DCUM is the land of $200k is a fools salary, why are you advocating we give up pursuing the brass ring?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s October basically. Another month.

DH is getting demoralized after calling in every network he could. He is desperate to find his next play in tech sales, but nothing is coming through.

We may have to sell our house if no job by January. Move back in with my parents which I know will be really really hard in their small house with all 4 of us.

He needs to take any job he can get. Where is your savings?

What else can sales guys do? Before tech sales he was a bartender, studied journalism in college.

It sounds like this is the problem. He lacks the skill and experience. He can go back to bartending. Anything is better than nothing.

He’s been in tech sales 8 years, can turn back now.

He’s way too old to bartend. What about gov contracting? I just want something stable; he’s changed jobs every year and now this layoff, the money was great but clearly not at FU money so kind of a roller coaster.

Fellow tech sales (and non-tech sales) person here. Your DH needs a career change. If he switched jobs every year then he likely wasn’t very good. They money was good for everyone for the last decade but the gravy train is over for everyone but the best salespeople.

He is not going to make $400k a year. He needs to look for a people skills job. Something interfacing with clients. Account management/CS. Needs to look outside tech and you need a FT job. Sounds like you all live beyond your means. Tighten your budget, downgrade your cars, no vacations, no restaurants, no new clothes, etc.

He was switching jobs for bigger pay raises each time. I thought that was what everyone did?

And now that is over. This is good advice.

DCUM is the land of $200k is a fools salary, why are you advocating we give up pursuing the brass ring?

Because you may end up broke and homeless.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Restaurants are hiring. I want to retire, but we can't find workers.
More layoffs coming. He needs to come up with something until it all turns around. It may take 2-3 years.

Tech sales to waiting tables??? What?

Any job is better than no job. Former server here, and it cracks me up how some people think they’re too good to work a job in the service industry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Restaurants are hiring. I want to retire, but we can't find workers.
More layoffs coming. He needs to come up with something until it all turns around. It may take 2-3 years.

Tech sales to waiting tables??? What?

Any job is better than no job. Former server here, and it cracks me up how some people think they’re too good to work a job in the service industry.

Law and medicine are both service sectors too!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s October basically. Another month.

DH is getting demoralized after calling in every network he could. He is desperate to find his next play in tech sales, but nothing is coming through.

We may have to sell our house if no job by January. Move back in with my parents which I know will be really really hard in their small house with all 4 of us.

He needs to take any job he can get. Where is your savings?

What else can sales guys do? Before tech sales he was a bartender, studied journalism in college.

It sounds like this is the problem. He lacks the skill and experience. He can go back to bartending. Anything is better than nothing.

He’s been in tech sales 8 years, can turn back now.

He’s way too old to bartend. What about gov contracting? I just want something stable; he’s changed jobs every year and now this layoff, the money was great but clearly not at FU money so kind of a roller coaster.

Too old to bartend??? What kind of ageist BS is that? And gov't contracting is the opposite of stable. I think you both might need a reality check. My husband would get a job mopping floors at 7-11 if that's what it took to put food on the table. And you can walk into an interview and hold your head high and say that you took what you could while looking cuz that's better than sitting around doing nothing; they don't care that job hunting can be a full time job. They see a resume gap and what to know what was up. Telling them you were sitting around waiting, only looking for one type of job shows a lack of flexibility and adaptability. Beggars can't be choosers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He should apply for a bdr position. Databricks is hiring, they pay peanuts for these roles, but he can get a promotion to an ae in a year

Really? His last OTE was $400k. That job is$85k. Isn’t that career suicide

I can introduce you to VPs from decent large companies working as aes. It is total madness out there in tech sales, you just do not understand the gravity of the situation yet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s October basically. Another month.

DH is getting demoralized after calling in every network he could. He is desperate to find his next play in tech sales, but nothing is coming through.

We may have to sell our house if no job by January. Move back in with my parents which I know will be really really hard in their small house with all 4 of us.

He needs to take any job he can get. Where is your savings?

What else can sales guys do? Before tech sales he was a bartender, studied journalism in college.

It sounds like this is the problem. He lacks the skill and experience. He can go back to bartending. Anything is better than nothing.

He’s been in tech sales 8 years, can turn back now.

He’s way too old to bartend. What about gov contracting? I just want something stable; he’s changed jobs every year and now this layoff, the money was great but clearly not at FU money so kind of a roller coaster.

Too old to bartend??? What kind of ageist BS is that? And gov't contracting is the opposite of stable. I think you both might need a reality check. My husband would get a job mopping floors at 7-11 if that's what it took to put food on the table. And you can walk into an interview and hold your head high and say that you took what you could while looking cuz that's better than sitting around doing nothing; they don't care that job hunting can be a full time job. They see a resume gap and what to know what was up. Telling them you were sitting around waiting, only looking for one type of job shows a lack of flexibility and adaptability. Beggars can't be choosers.

But we neee a professional salary to keep food on the table. Waiting tables and earning $20/hr will not extend our runway at all. We live in California, so our crummy townhouse costs $1.5M — that’s a huge chunk of change — we need $60k after tax just to cover mortgage. A $41k pretax job is foolish — he needs to be hustling for the next sales job not burning time and energy for months to buy is 1 more weeks of mortgage payments.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He should apply for a bdr position. Databricks is hiring, they pay peanuts for these roles, but he can get a promotion to an ae in a year

Really? His last OTE was $400k. That job is$85k. Isn’t that career suicide

I can introduce you to VPs from decent large companies working as aes. It is total madness out there in tech sales, you just do not understand the gravity of the situation yet.

Can you share a LinkedIn — that sounds implausible but may convince DH he needs to pivot careers.