Tech is back -- when will DH get a new tech sales role

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Anonymous wrote:Gosh this is eye opening just how little tech people know about their own industries. Interest rates have crushed the ability to raise money and tech is not coming back like it was. Layoffs have plateaued because everyone was laid off. Companies are getting back to the fundamentals, and there will always be a need for really good salespeople who willingly work 90+ hours a week on the road for their high salary, but there won’t be a need for 100 salespeople who work from home. If your husband was a really good salesperson he would’ve had a job by now, that’s just the truth. Chances are he was average and probably needs to think about a career pivot.

Hard truth OP. Getting a job is about selling yourself, and your DH can’t even do that. You need to get a full time job pronto, he probably needs to go back to school.

I’m the PP and this is bad advice. Do not take on school loans, salespeople are generally very employable in a wide variety of jobs so take advantage of existing skills. Likely will not come close to making prior salary so adjust your lifestyle.

Working in tech (especially tech sales) the past ten years was like winning the lottery. An incredible environment thanks to the fed to make a lot of money and few actually got a chance at it so congrats! But like the lottery, you already got it and the odds are well-stacked that nothing like that will happen again in our lifetime.

What kind of jobs should a tech sales bro former bartender aim for? Curious what skills are so marketable?

First off I’m not a sales person but I do like early stage investing. Sales isn’t a fungible skill. Making money (rather than talking about it, writing about it, spending it, lobbying for it, or researching it) typically comes in handy for most (all) companies.

[Anonymous]

Wait. Your husband made $400k a year and you might have to move in with your parents in January??? Sell your home??? Wowwwwwwwe really no sympathy. I’m a nanny and only make 65k a year and my emergency fund is over $50k. How did you make so much money and save so little? I live live a pauper to save, but my condo is paid off and I have an emergency fund. You really need to do better, I’m sorry but I’m really flabbergasted that with a 400k income you have no savings. How does this even happen?

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OP, is English your first language?

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Anonymous wrote:Gosh this is eye opening just how little tech people know about their own industries. Interest rates have crushed the ability to raise money and tech is not coming back like it was. Layoffs have plateaued because everyone was laid off. Companies are getting back to the fundamentals, and there will always be a need for really good salespeople who willingly work 90+ hours a week on the road for their high salary, but there won’t be a need for 100 salespeople who work from home. If your husband was a really good salesperson he would’ve had a job by now, that’s just the truth. Chances are he was average and probably needs to think about a career pivot.

Hard truth OP. Getting a job is about selling yourself, and your DH can’t even do that. You need to get a full time job pronto, he probably needs to go back to school.

I’m the PP and this is bad advice. Do not take on school loans, salespeople are generally very employable in a wide variety of jobs so take advantage of existing skills. Likely will not come close to making prior salary so adjust your lifestyle.

Working in tech (especially tech sales) the past ten years was like winning the lottery. An incredible environment thanks to the fed to make a lot of money and few actually got a chance at it so congrats! But like the lottery, you already got it and the odds are well-stacked that nothing like that will happen again in our lifetime.

What kind of jobs should a tech sales bro former bartender aim for? Curious what skills are so marketable?

First off I’m not a sales person but I do like early stage investing. Sales isn’t a fungible skill. Making money (rather than talking about it, writing about it, spending it, lobbying for it, or researching it) typically comes in handy for most (all) companies.

NP. Making money often comes in rhe form of talking, writing, lobbying or researching it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wait. Your husband made $400k a year and you might have to move in with your parents in January??? Sell your home??? Wowwwwwwwe really no sympathy. I’m a nanny and only make 65k a year and my emergency fund is over $50k. How did you make so much money and save so little? I live live a pauper to save, but my condo is paid off and I have an emergency fund. You really need to do better, I’m sorry but I’m really flabbergasted that with a 400k income you have no savings. How does this even happen?

It just started two years ago, and we bought our first home (1100 sq ft 2 bed, 1 bath) which had MASSIVE water issues which burned $100k in 6 months (think river under the house). But no inspection is the rule in our market if you wanted a home.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, is English your first language?

More or less, I was a refugee but came as a child. Parents barely speak English.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Gosh this is eye opening just how little tech people know about their own industries. Interest rates have crushed the ability to raise money and tech is not coming back like it was. Layoffs have plateaued because everyone was laid off. Companies are getting back to the fundamentals, and there will always be a need for really good salespeople who willingly work 90+ hours a week on the road for their high salary, but there won’t be a need for 100 salespeople who work from home. If your husband was a really good salesperson he would’ve had a job by now, that’s just the truth. Chances are he was average and probably needs to think about a career pivot.

Hard truth OP. Getting a job is about selling yourself, and your DH can’t even do that. You need to get a full time job pronto, he probably needs to go back to school.

I’m the PP and this is bad advice. Do not take on school loans, salespeople are generally very employable in a wide variety of jobs so take advantage of existing skills. Likely will not come close to making prior salary so adjust your lifestyle.

Working in tech (especially tech sales) the past ten years was like winning the lottery. An incredible environment thanks to the fed to make a lot of money and few actually got a chance at it so congrats! But like the lottery, you already got it and the odds are well-stacked that nothing like that will happen again in our lifetime.

What kind of jobs should a tech sales bro former bartender aim for? Curious what skills are so marketable?

First off I’m not a sales person but I do like early stage investing. Sales isn’t a fungible skill. Making money (rather than talking about it, writing about it, spending it, lobbying for it, or researching it) typically comes in handy for most (all) companies.

Don’t all those skills fall under umbrella of sales?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wait. Your husband made $400k a year and you might have to move in with your parents in January??? Sell your home??? Wowwwwwwwe really no sympathy. I’m a nanny and only make 65k a year and my emergency fund is over $50k. How did you make so much money and save so little? I live live a pauper to save, but my condo is paid off and I have an emergency fund. You really need to do better, I’m sorry but I’m really flabbergasted that with a 400k income you have no savings. How does this even happen?

It just started two years ago, and we bought our first home (1100 sq ft 2 bed, 1 bath) which had MASSIVE water issues which burned $100k in 6 months (think river under the house). But no inspection is the rule in our market if you wanted a home.

If he is in tech sales you don't have a home market. You can live anywhere where you can use a phone and a laptop.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wait. Your husband made $400k a year and you might have to move in with your parents in January??? Sell your home??? Wowwwwwwwe really no sympathy. I’m a nanny and only make 65k a year and my emergency fund is over $50k. How did you make so much money and save so little? I live live a pauper to save, but my condo is paid off and I have an emergency fund. You really need to do better, I’m sorry but I’m really flabbergasted that with a 400k income you have no savings. How does this even happen?

It just started two years ago, and we bought our first home (1100 sq ft 2 bed, 1 bath) which had MASSIVE water issues which burned $100k in 6 months (think river under the house). But no inspection is the rule in our market if you wanted a home.

If he is in tech sales you don't have a home market. You can live anywhere where you can use a phone and a laptop.

I mean where we live; we grew up in Bay Area so this was our housing market.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s October basically. Another month.

DH is getting demoralized after calling in every network he could. He is desperate to find his next play in tech sales, but nothing is coming through.

We may have to sell our house if no job by January. Move back in with my parents which I know will be really really hard in their small house with all 4 of us.

He needs to take any job he can get. Where is your savings?

What else can sales guys do? Before tech sales he was a bartender, studied journalism in college.

I’m in customer success at a large tech company. Total comp is close to $300k. He should like to pivot to that type of org if no sales roles are panning out. In my company I see these types of transitions all the time. In fact it’s encouraged.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s October basically. Another month.

DH is getting demoralized after calling in every network he could. He is desperate to find his next play in tech sales, but nothing is coming through.

We may have to sell our house if no job by January. Move back in with my parents which I know will be really really hard in their small house with all 4 of us.

He needs to take any job he can get. Where is your savings?

What else can sales guys do? Before tech sales he was a bartender, studied journalism in college.

I’m in customer success at a large tech company. Total comp is close to $300k. He should like to pivot to that type of org if no sales roles are panning out. In my company I see these types of transitions all the time. In fact it’s encouraged.

That’s great never knew customer support could pay so well

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Highly doubt he will get an offer in delivery/customer support with pure sales experience. Not in this climate, anyways.

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Anonymous wrote:Highly doubt he will get an offer in delivery/customer support with pure sales experience. Not in this climate, anyways.

But what about a foot on that door, best way to spin to that role

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s October basically. Another month.

DH is getting demoralized after calling in every network he could. He is desperate to find his next play in tech sales, but nothing is coming through.

We may have to sell our house if no job by January. Move back in with my parents which I know will be really really hard in their small house with all 4 of us.

He needs to take any job he can get. Where is your savings?

What else can sales guys do? Before tech sales he was a bartender, studied journalism in college.

I’m in customer success at a large tech company. Total comp is close to $300k. He should like to pivot to that type of org if no sales roles are panning out. In my company I see these types of transitions all the time. In fact it’s encouraged.

That’s great never knew customer support could pay so well

This is where most folks get confused. Customer success and customer support are two very different things, at least at my company. In customer success, we drive consumption, deliver strategic initiatives, etc. Customer support is who you call when something goes haywire. They overlap, but are distinct.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s October basically. Another month.

DH is getting demoralized after calling in every network he could. He is desperate to find his next play in tech sales, but nothing is coming through.

We may have to sell our house if no job by January. Move back in with my parents which I know will be really really hard in their small house with all 4 of us.

He needs to take any job he can get. Where is your savings?

What else can sales guys do? Before tech sales he was a bartender, studied journalism in college.

I’m in customer success at a large tech company. Total comp is close to $300k. He should like to pivot to that type of org if no sales roles are panning out. In my company I see these types of transitions all the time. In fact it’s encouraged.

That’s great never knew customer support could pay so well

This is where most folks get confused. Customer success and customer support are two very different things, at least at my company. In customer success, we drive consumption, deliver strategic initiatives, etc. Customer support is who you call when something goes haywire. They overlap, but are distinct.

Drive consumption? That’s just sales.

Strategic initiatives are just papers showing why our product is the right solution for all your problems. Sales.

Send like a way to piecemeal out sales groundwork in a non commission role