Conservative DCUM'ers: how far back do you want LGBTQ rights rolled back?

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Anonymous wrote:I just want you to keep it in the bedroom. I don't want it blasted in my face 24/7. I don't want to talk about it all the time. I want to know you as Larlo who makes a mean hamburger, not Larla the flamboyant lesbian.


Yeah well we can have that once there are no longer people trying to eradicate the LGBTQ community. And please say those people don't exist. There are still huge swaths of people, mostly from conservative religious communities, who think that it is sinful to be LGBTQ, that they are subhumans, that they don't deserve all the rights that heteros have, that they should be able to discriminate against that community.

And no one is "making" you talk about this. Sorry if you think it's blasting it in your face to watch a film or tv show with a gay couple. Or to see someone in drag. Or to see a trans person. It clearly makes you uncomfortable. What if your very being and appearance made others uncomfortable and you were asked to change the way you dressed/presented yourself because of that?


You're completely unhinged. I work in a very liberal place and get constant emails about "pride programming" including sales of materials (pins, tshirts, flags etc), webinars, pride parade, fundraisers (bake sale etc), and had to sit through an hour of brainwashing by an activist guest speaker under the guise of a team building activity. It's not just right wing blasting.


It's a response to right wing blasting. It seems like what you want is for everyone to just shut up and sit down when trans people are attacked. Until people stop directing hate towards trans people, I will never, ever shut up.

All I want is for trans people to just be able to exist and live. The majority are not abnormally sexually promiscuous and trying to promote sexual promiscuity like some poster a few back is trying to allege. Why can't trans people to just be able to exist and lead normal lives?



I don’t want them to cease existing! I just want single-sex spaces. Is that denying anyone their right to live?


Yep! Where should they go to the bathroom then? Women feel uncomfortable. Men feel uncomfortable. Most just want to do their business and get out. The man who dresses up as a woman to prey on women is a bogeyman. If some monster wants to prey on women he’ll just go in and do it. I promise he won’t go through the trouble of dressing up.


You’re so right! Men have never tried to gain access to vulnerable women by deception. Silly me! And can you tell me why The Thing That Never Happens (women/girls being predated by man identity ing as women or girls) keeps happening?
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That's what bothers people. Its not LGBQ. It's the T.


I agree. It is very easy for me to empathize with LGB people. They feel attraction to members of their own sex, just like I feel attraction to members of the opposite sex. Both straight and gay people can feel deep love.

But I can't empathize with transgender people. What does it mean that a man feels like a woman? How does he know what a woman feels like? Is it just because he likes stereotypically women's things? The idea that we must behave stereotypically according to our sex is setting social progress back 100 years. It is fine for men to cry, wear dresses, and like knitting.

Whenever I see the word "trans" I assume that it is short for "transsexual" -- a man who enjoys presenting as a stereotypical female (or vice versa).


Why do you have to know what it feels like, in order to tolerate others? Did men have to understand what it feels like to be a woman for them to get equal rights under the law?? No. And it should not. Someone else's human rights should not hinge on your feelings for them, like you're deciding to save the koala but not a dingo.


This has nothing to do with human rights. A man is welcome to dress and act like a stereotypical woman. It is none of my business what he does. But he is not a woman, and so his rights may conflict with women's rights. Do you really think it is a violation of human rights to prevent men from participating in women's sports?

The situation is quite different with gays and lesbians, who don't require any affirmation from straight people

I think it's a violation of human rights to deny them transgender medical care approved by doctors. It's gotten to the point where states are going after young adults and Missouri banned it for adults of all ages.


Would you generally trust medical associations with more experience with T children? Cuz they’re pretty uniformly backing away from “affirming” medical care.


It's not my business to pick their doctors for them. Are you going to answer the question or dance around it?
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Anonymous wrote:I just want you to keep it in the bedroom. I don't want it blasted in my face 24/7. I don't want to talk about it all the time. I want to know you as Larlo who makes a mean hamburger, not Larla the flamboyant lesbian.


Yeah well we can have that once there are no longer people trying to eradicate the LGBTQ community. And please say those people don't exist. There are still huge swaths of people, mostly from conservative religious communities, who think that it is sinful to be LGBTQ, that they are subhumans, that they don't deserve all the rights that heteros have, that they should be able to discriminate against that community.

And no one is "making" you talk about this. Sorry if you think it's blasting it in your face to watch a film or tv show with a gay couple. Or to see someone in drag. Or to see a trans person. It clearly makes you uncomfortable. What if your very being and appearance made others uncomfortable and you were asked to change the way you dressed/presented yourself because of that?


You're completely unhinged. I work in a very liberal place and get constant emails about "pride programming" including sales of materials (pins, tshirts, flags etc), webinars, pride parade, fundraisers (bake sale etc), and had to sit through an hour of brainwashing by an activist guest speaker under the guise of a team building activity. It's not just right wing blasting.


It's a response to right wing blasting. It seems like what you want is for everyone to just shut up and sit down when trans people are attacked. Until people stop directing hate towards trans people, I will never, ever shut up.

All I want is for trans people to just be able to exist and live. The majority are not abnormally sexually promiscuous and trying to promote sexual promiscuity like some poster a few back is trying to allege. Why can't trans people to just be able to exist and lead normal lives?



I don’t want them to cease existing! I just want single-sex spaces. Is that denying anyone their right to live?


Yep! Where should they go to the bathroom then? Women feel uncomfortable. Men feel uncomfortable. Most just want to do their business and get out. The man who dresses up as a woman to prey on women is a bogeyman. If some monster wants to prey on women he’ll just go in and do it. I promise he won’t go through the trouble of dressing up.


You’re so right! Men have never tried to gain access to vulnerable women by deception. Silly me! And can you tell me why The Thing That Never Happens (women/girls being predated by man identity ing as women or girls) keeps happening?


Source please?
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Can you rephrase or restate the question? Sorry!
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Anonymous wrote:I just want you to keep it in the bedroom. I don't want it blasted in my face 24/7. I don't want to talk about it all the time. I want to know you as Larlo who makes a mean hamburger, not Larla the flamboyant lesbian.


Yeah well we can have that once there are no longer people trying to eradicate the LGBTQ community. And please say those people don't exist. There are still huge swaths of people, mostly from conservative religious communities, who think that it is sinful to be LGBTQ, that they are subhumans, that they don't deserve all the rights that heteros have, that they should be able to discriminate against that community.

And no one is "making" you talk about this. Sorry if you think it's blasting it in your face to watch a film or tv show with a gay couple. Or to see someone in drag. Or to see a trans person. It clearly makes you uncomfortable. What if your very being and appearance made others uncomfortable and you were asked to change the way you dressed/presented yourself because of that?


You're completely unhinged. I work in a very liberal place and get constant emails about "pride programming" including sales of materials (pins, tshirts, flags etc), webinars, pride parade, fundraisers (bake sale etc), and had to sit through an hour of brainwashing by an activist guest speaker under the guise of a team building activity. It's not just right wing blasting.


It's a response to right wing blasting. It seems like what you want is for everyone to just shut up and sit down when trans people are attacked. Until people stop directing hate towards trans people, I will never, ever shut up.

All I want is for trans people to just be able to exist and live. The majority are not abnormally sexually promiscuous and trying to promote sexual promiscuity like some poster a few back is trying to allege. Why can't trans people to just be able to exist and lead normal lives?



I don’t want them to cease existing! I just want single-sex spaces. Is that denying anyone their right to live?


Yep! Where should they go to the bathroom then? Women feel uncomfortable. Men feel uncomfortable. Most just want to do their business and get out. The man who dresses up as a woman to prey on women is a bogeyman. If some monster wants to prey on women he’ll just go in and do it. I promise he won’t go through the trouble of dressing up.


You’re so right! Men have never tried to gain access to vulnerable women by deception. Silly me! And can you tell me why The Thing That Never Happens (women/girls being predated by man identity ing as women or girls) keeps happening?


Source please?


You want sources of females being sexually assaulted by trans identifying men or just the instances in what we’re previously single-sex spaces?
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Pp. just want to narrow it down. Thanks!
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Anonymous wrote:I just want you to keep it in the bedroom. I don't want it blasted in my face 24/7. I don't want to talk about it all the time. I want to know you as Larlo who makes a mean hamburger, not Larla the flamboyant lesbian.


Yeah well we can have that once there are no longer people trying to eradicate the LGBTQ community. And please say those people don't exist. There are still huge swaths of people, mostly from conservative religious communities, who think that it is sinful to be LGBTQ, that they are subhumans, that they don't deserve all the rights that heteros have, that they should be able to discriminate against that community.

And no one is "making" you talk about this. Sorry if you think it's blasting it in your face to watch a film or tv show with a gay couple. Or to see someone in drag. Or to see a trans person. It clearly makes you uncomfortable. What if your very being and appearance made others uncomfortable and you were asked to change the way you dressed/presented yourself because of that?


You're completely unhinged. I work in a very liberal place and get constant emails about "pride programming" including sales of materials (pins, tshirts, flags etc), webinars, pride parade, fundraisers (bake sale etc), and had to sit through an hour of brainwashing by an activist guest speaker under the guise of a team building activity. It's not just right wing blasting.


It's a response to right wing blasting. It seems like what you want is for everyone to just shut up and sit down when trans people are attacked. Until people stop directing hate towards trans people, I will never, ever shut up.

All I want is for trans people to just be able to exist and live. The majority are not abnormally sexually promiscuous and trying to promote sexual promiscuity like some poster a few back is trying to allege. Why can't trans people to just be able to exist and lead normal lives?



I don’t want them to cease existing! I just want single-sex spaces. Is that denying anyone their right to live?


Yep! Where should they go to the bathroom then? Women feel uncomfortable. Men feel uncomfortable. Most just want to do their business and get out. The man who dresses up as a woman to prey on women is a bogeyman. If some monster wants to prey on women he’ll just go in and do it. I promise he won’t go through the trouble of dressing up.


You’re so right! Men have never tried to gain access to vulnerable women by deception. Silly me! And can you tell me why The Thing That Never Happens (women/girls being predated by man identity ing as women or girls) keeps happening?


Source please?


You want sources of females being sexually assaulted by trans identifying men or just the instances in what we’re previously single-sex spaces?


Both.
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Anonymous wrote:Democrat here

I’ve worked for gay candidates in the past. They were great. They weren’t in your face about being gay.

The trans thing is too much. Pride has gone way over the top





What is "the trans thing", pray tell?


Pretty much all of it



I knew you couldn't define it.
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Anonymous wrote:I just want you to keep it in the bedroom. I don't want it blasted in my face 24/7. I don't want to talk about it all the time. I want to know you as Larlo who makes a mean hamburger, not Larla the flamboyant lesbian.


Yeah well we can have that once there are no longer people trying to eradicate the LGBTQ community. And please say those people don't exist. There are still huge swaths of people, mostly from conservative religious communities, who think that it is sinful to be LGBTQ, that they are subhumans, that they don't deserve all the rights that heteros have, that they should be able to discriminate against that community.

And no one is "making" you talk about this. Sorry if you think it's blasting it in your face to watch a film or tv show with a gay couple. Or to see someone in drag. Or to see a trans person. It clearly makes you uncomfortable. What if your very being and appearance made others uncomfortable and you were asked to change the way you dressed/presented yourself because of that?


You're completely unhinged. I work in a very liberal place and get constant emails about "pride programming" including sales of materials (pins, tshirts, flags etc), webinars, pride parade, fundraisers (bake sale etc), and had to sit through an hour of brainwashing by an activist guest speaker under the guise of a team building activity. It's not just right wing blasting.


It's a response to right wing blasting. It seems like what you want is for everyone to just shut up and sit down when trans people are attacked. Until people stop directing hate towards trans people, I will never, ever shut up.

All I want is for trans people to just be able to exist and live. The majority are not abnormally sexually promiscuous and trying to promote sexual promiscuity like some poster a few back is trying to allege. Why can't trans people to just be able to exist and lead normal lives?



I don’t want them to cease existing! I just want single-sex spaces. Is that denying anyone their right to live?


Yep! Where should they go to the bathroom then? Women feel uncomfortable. Men feel uncomfortable. Most just want to do their business and get out. The man who dresses up as a woman to prey on women is a bogeyman. If some monster wants to prey on women he’ll just go in and do it. I promise he won’t go through the trouble of dressing up.


You’re so right! Men have never tried to gain access to vulnerable women by deception. Silly me! And can you tell me why The Thing That Never Happens (women/girls being predated by man identity ing as women or girls) keeps happening?


Source please?


You want sources of females being sexually assaulted by trans identifying men or just the instances in what we’re previously single-sex spaces?


Also what I’m looking for are more stats that trans men are more likely to assault women, or the percentage of men that predate on women that are just dressed up as men as opposed to not dressed up as men, rather than just individual incidents. There are bad actors in every group of people. I don’t like to generalize a group of people due to a few bad actors. Thanks again!
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One more time, why should a 30 year old be banned from transgender medical treatment, regardless of whether you empathize with them or not?
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Tim Cook is apple ceo - no one is boycotting apple
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Anonymous wrote:I just want you to keep it in the bedroom. I don't want it blasted in my face 24/7. I don't want to talk about it all the time. I want to know you as Larlo who makes a mean hamburger, not Larla the flamboyant lesbian.


Yeah well we can have that once there are no longer people trying to eradicate the LGBTQ community. And please say those people don't exist. There are still huge swaths of people, mostly from conservative religious communities, who think that it is sinful to be LGBTQ, that they are subhumans, that they don't deserve all the rights that heteros have, that they should be able to discriminate against that community.

And no one is "making" you talk about this. Sorry if you think it's blasting it in your face to watch a film or tv show with a gay couple. Or to see someone in drag. Or to see a trans person. It clearly makes you uncomfortable. What if your very being and appearance made others uncomfortable and you were asked to change the way you dressed/presented yourself because of that?


You're completely unhinged. I work in a very liberal place and get constant emails about "pride programming" including sales of materials (pins, tshirts, flags etc), webinars, pride parade, fundraisers (bake sale etc), and had to sit through an hour of brainwashing by an activist guest speaker under the guise of a team building activity. It's not just right wing blasting.


It's a response to right wing blasting. It seems like what you want is for everyone to just shut up and sit down when trans people are attacked. Until people stop directing hate towards trans people, I will never, ever shut up.

All I want is for trans people to just be able to exist and live. The majority are not abnormally sexually promiscuous and trying to promote sexual promiscuity like some poster a few back is trying to allege. Why can't trans people to just be able to exist and lead normal lives?



I don’t want them to cease existing! I just want single-sex spaces. Is that denying anyone their right to live?


Yep! Where should they go to the bathroom then? Women feel uncomfortable. Men feel uncomfortable. Most just want to do their business and get out. The man who dresses up as a woman to prey on women is a bogeyman. If some monster wants to prey on women he’ll just go in and do it. I promise he won’t go through the trouble of dressing up.


You’re so right! Men have never tried to gain access to vulnerable women by deception. Silly me! And can you tell me why The Thing That Never Happens (women/girls being predated by man identity ing as women or girls) keeps happening?


Maybe I haven't been keeping up but is the word "predated" now being redefined as a verb where a predator preys upon someone?
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As a gay man I'm well attuned to the histrionics surrounding LGBTQ as a term because the real issue isn't the LGB but the T and Q. Plenty of gay people are concerned about the excesses of TQ activism and, frankly, there's not much in common between being LGB and TQ. If I worry about anything, it is that the backlash against TQ activism may hurt LGB despite that we have little in common with TQ. Gays and Lesbians aren't asking for science to be redefined to allow people to "change" gender nor do we cause controversy by demanding access to traditional gender spaces of the opposite gender. Nor did we cause a ruckus with the weird pronoun demands nor push something that is biologically impossible, such as non binarism. Nor did we demand people start using terms like birthing parent instead of pregnant mother.

My advice to the trans and queen activists is to stop dragging gays and lesbians into your activism in order to provide you with legitimacy.
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Parents who don't affirm their child's gender identity are at greater risk of adverse custody decisions and CPS visits.

The California Assembly Judiciary Committee today advanced Assembly Bill 957, The TGI (Transgender, Gender-Diverse, and Intersex) Youth Empowerment Act, by Assemblywoman Lori D. Wilson (D-Suisun City). AB 957 empowers parents who support their TGI children by clarifying once and for all that affirming a child’s gender identity is in the best interest of the child, allowing courts to consider a parent’s affirmation of their child’s gender identity when making decisions about visitation and custody.

https://a11.asmdc.org/press-releases/20230321...ll-protect-tgi-youth
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As long as there’s no special treatment for anybody based on racial, sexual or psychological differences and everything is based on merit I’m good with all of it.

No affirmative action and no bias. That there is homosexual pride MONTH and veterans only get a day is sick.


I guess you have never been in the military or had any military family members. May is always Armed Forces Appreciation Month. Have you not participated in any of the events? You're the one who is sick.
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