Do conservatives want to ban transgenderism for the same reasons they want to ban abortion?

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Anonymous wrote:From the Holocaust Museum in Berlin earlier today. Homophobia, anti-trans, and anti-abortion are all linked:



Republicans are gleefully skipping down a well-trod path.

So the only way to not be a Nazi is to be in favor of performing sex changing surgeries on minors?

I thought you supported “parents rights”? Maybe just let parents figure out what is best for their kids. None of your business

Parents don't have unlimited rights. Conservatives are actually pretty consistent on this. You can't kill a 5 month old fetus, you can't have your teenage daughter's breasts removed, etc. But, you are dodging here. You allege that in order to not be a Nazi, you have to be in favor of minors having surgeries to remove their genitals. That's a weird definition of Nazi. Nazis were famously all about grim experimental surgeries.

I’m sure you feel the same way about breast augmentation and nose jobs for teens?

I do, yes. I think it's fine to fix disfigurement, but teens should not be cosmetically altering their bodies.

Piercings? Breast reductions? Tattoos? Circumcision?

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Yes, let's talk about circumcision. It's genital mutilation, right?

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The premise of this post is weird. The most fervent anti-trans advocates I know of are leftie feminists.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s all about a wedge issue. They don’t really care about any policies at all, as long as they retain power. They sell the most emotional issues they can to people who lack the ability to think through complex issues just for their vote.

You mean, like Dems on abortion? Got it.

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Anonymous wrote:The premise of this post is weird. The most fervent anti-trans advocates I know of are leftie feminists.

+1 They are against the lunacy of what this movement has become....males in women's sports, "gender affirming" care for youth who can't possibly consent and understand the longterm ramifications of transition, males in women's prison resulting in rapes and pregnancies, males modeling women's clothing etc. This is not just a conservative position. It's a fringe minority that want to push all of this stuff.

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Anonymous wrote:The premise of this post is weird. The most fervent anti-trans advocates I know of are leftie feminists.

+1 They are against the lunacy of what this movement has become....males in women's sports, "gender affirming" care for youth who can't possibly consent and understand the longterm ramifications of transition, males in women's prison resulting in rapes and pregnancies, males modeling women's clothing etc. This is not just a conservative position. It's a fringe minority that want to push all of this stuff.

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Anonymous wrote:We want to ban it because mutilating children is weird, depraved, evil.

This was the rallying cry when they banned gender affirming care in Indiana even though no transgender surgeries were being performed on minors in the state. That’s how you know legislators are lying about their motivations. They banned puberty blockers which some kids need & which reduce suicide and self-harm. But right-wing legislators only wanted to talk about nonexistent surgeries.

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Please cite the studies that confirm that puberty blockers reduce suicide and self harm. You won’t be able to because none exist. But knock yourself out trying.

After adjustment for temporal trends and potential confounders, we observed 60% lower odds of depression (adjusted odds ratio [aOR], 0.40; 95% CI, 0.17-0.95) and 73% lower odds of suicidality (aOR, 0.27; 95% CI, 0.11-0.65) among youths who had initiated PBs or GAHs compared with youths who had not.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2789423

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Anonymous wrote:The premise of this post is weird. The most fervent anti-trans advocates I know of are leftie feminists.

+1 They are against the lunacy of what this movement has become....males in women's sports, "gender affirming" care for youth who can't possibly consent and understand the longterm ramifications of transition, males in women's prison resulting in rapes and pregnancies, males modeling women's clothing etc. This is not just a conservative position. It's a fringe minority that want to push all of this stuff.

Yes, it is.

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Anonymous wrote:We want to ban it because mutilating children is weird, depraved, evil.

This was the rallying cry when they banned gender affirming care in Indiana even though no transgender surgeries were being performed on minors in the state. That’s how you know legislators are lying about their motivations. They banned puberty blockers which some kids need & which reduce suicide and self-harm. But right-wing legislators only wanted to talk about nonexistent surgeries.

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Please cite the studies that confirm that puberty blockers reduce suicide and self harm. You won’t be able to because none exist. But knock yourself out trying.

After adjustment for temporal trends and potential confounders, we observed 60% lower odds of depression (adjusted odds ratio [aOR], 0.40; 95% CI, 0.17-0.95) and 73% lower odds of suicidality (aOR, 0.27; 95% CI, 0.11-0.65) among youths who had initiated PBs or GAHs compared with youths who had not.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2789423

Jesse Singal published a ~40 page analysis of this study on Substack in April 2022. Very worth reading. TL;DR the study didn’t prove what it says it did.

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Anonymous wrote:From the Holocaust Museum in Berlin earlier today. Homophobia, anti-trans, and anti-abortion are all linked:



Republicans are gleefully skipping down a well-trod path.

Nah, the confusion of gay and lesbian interests with trans interests is forced teaming and it is insidious. There are plenty of lesbians who don’t support trans ideology and will tell you that it’s really a male supremacy movement.

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Anonymous wrote:From the Holocaust Museum in Berlin earlier today. Homophobia, anti-trans, and anti-abortion are all linked:



Republicans are gleefully skipping down a well-trod path.

Nah, the confusion of gay and lesbian interests with trans interests is forced teaming and it is insidious. There are plenty of lesbians who don’t support trans ideology and will tell you that it’s really a male supremacy movement.

Like anyone believes you care about what lesbians think. Snort. You'll go after them next for being too butch.

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Anonymous wrote:From the Holocaust Museum in Berlin earlier today. Homophobia, anti-trans, and anti-abortion are all linked:



Republicans are gleefully skipping down a well-trod path.

Nah, the confusion of gay and lesbian interests with trans interests is forced teaming and it is insidious. There are plenty of lesbians who don’t support trans ideology and will tell you that it’s really a male supremacy movement.

Like anyone believes you care about what lesbians think. Snort. You'll go after them next for being too butch.

I’m a lesbian and the PP is spot on. Next time know what you’re talking about before you post. You might come off sounding less like an ignorant ass.

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Anonymous wrote:We want to ban it because mutilating children is weird, depraved, evil.

This was the rallying cry when they banned gender affirming care in Indiana even though no transgender surgeries were being performed on minors in the state. That’s how you know legislators are lying about their motivations. They banned puberty blockers which some kids need & which reduce suicide and self-harm. But right-wing legislators only wanted to talk about nonexistent surgeries.

c

Please cite the studies that confirm that puberty blockers reduce suicide and self harm. You won’t be able to because none exist. But knock yourself out trying.

After adjustment for temporal trends and potential confounders, we observed 60% lower odds of depression (adjusted odds ratio [aOR], 0.40; 95% CI, 0.17-0.95) and 73% lower odds of suicidality (aOR, 0.27; 95% CI, 0.11-0.65) among youths who had initiated PBs or GAHs compared with youths who had not.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2789423

Jesse Singal published a ~40 page analysis of this study on Substack in April 2022. Very worth reading. TL;DR the study didn’t prove what it says it did.

I doubt any of the activists posting here have any interest in a real examination of research findings. There is a reason why the European countries are moving away from so-called gender affirming care.

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Anonymous wrote:From the Holocaust Museum in Berlin earlier today. Homophobia, anti-trans, and anti-abortion are all linked:



Republicans are gleefully skipping down a well-trod path.

So the only way to not be a Nazi is to be in favor of performing sex changing surgeries on minors?

I thought you supported “parents rights”? Maybe just let parents figure out what is best for their kids. None of your business

Defense of children is everyone’s business

If conservatives actually cared about the defense of children, they’d stop pushing for putting an AR-15 in the hands of anyone with a pulse.

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Anonymous wrote:I think so. I’ve come to realize that it’s all about “increasing the birthrate,” and that I’d people are changing genders, they may not be procreating anymore.

It’s about being traitors who do Putin’s bidding. No other reason.