San Franciso reparations

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For all of you who talk out your butts about Asian Americans and their discrimination

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/redress-and-reparations-japanese-american-incarceration.

Billions given to Japanese Americans.


1. that link doesn't work
2. the feds gave them reparations, not CA.
3. Asian Americans encompass more than Japanese, and they were all discriminated against in CA. Couldn't buy property, forced segregation.

Where's the reparations for all Asian Americans by CA?


Hey. how about something for us Irish-Americans?

Were the Irish ever denied citizenship or right to own property?
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For all of you who talk out your butts about Asian Americans and their discrimination

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/redress-and-reparations-japanese-american-incarceration.

Billions given to Japanese Americans.


1. that link doesn't work
2. the feds gave them reparations, not CA.
3. Asian Americans encompass more than Japanese, and they were all discriminated against in CA. Couldn't buy property, forced segregation.

Where's the reparations for all Asian Americans by CA?


Hey. how about something for us Irish-Americans?

Were the Irish ever denied citizenship or right to own property?


Yes of course! What exactly do you think an indentured servant is? What rights do you think were afforded to involuntarily indentured Irish servants?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:


He lost me at "Providing reparations to a group of people hundreds of years removed from the sin of slavery does not right the wrongs of history." 2023-1865= 158, not hundreds. That's just slavery, Jim Crow existed in force 50 years ago.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For all of you who talk out your butts about Asian Americans and their discrimination

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/redress-and-reparations-japanese-american-incarceration.

Billions given to Japanese Americans.


1. that link doesn't work
2. the feds gave them reparations, not CA.
3. Asian Americans encompass more than Japanese, and they were all discriminated against in CA. Couldn't buy property, forced segregation.

Where's the reparations for all Asian Americans by CA?


Hey. how about something for us Irish-Americans?

Were the Irish ever denied citizenship or right to own property?


Yes of course! What exactly do you think an indentured servant is? What rights do you think were afforded to involuntarily indentured Irish servants?


Maybe they need to blame the British. Indentured servitude largely went away after the revolution
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For all of you who talk out your butts about Asian Americans and their discrimination

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/redress-and-reparations-japanese-american-incarceration.

Billions given to Japanese Americans.


1. that link doesn't work
2. the feds gave them reparations, not CA.
3. Asian Americans encompass more than Japanese, and they were all discriminated against in CA. Couldn't buy property, forced segregation.

Where's the reparations for all Asian Americans by CA?


Hey. how about something for us Irish-Americans?

Were the Irish ever denied citizenship or right to own property?


Yes of course! What exactly do you think an indentured servant is? What rights do you think were afforded to involuntarily indentured Irish servants?


Maybe they need to blame the British. Indentured servitude largely went away after the revolution

+1 there were English people who were also indentured servants.

Try again.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For all of you who talk out your butts about Asian Americans and their discrimination

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/redress-and-reparations-japanese-american-incarceration.

Billions given to Japanese Americans.


1. that link doesn't work
2. the feds gave them reparations, not CA.
3. Asian Americans encompass more than Japanese, and they were all discriminated against in CA. Couldn't buy property, forced segregation.

Where's the reparations for all Asian Americans by CA?


Hey. how about something for us Irish-Americans?

Were the Irish ever denied citizenship or right to own property?


Yes of course! What exactly do you think an indentured servant is? What rights do you think were afforded to involuntarily indentured Irish servants?


Maybe they need to blame the British. Indentured servitude largely went away after the revolution

+1 there were English people who were also indentured servants.

Try again.

also once the white indentured servants got their freedom (if they survived), they could actually own land (which is, in part, what led to using slaves). Not so for Asian Americans.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For all of you who talk out your butts about Asian Americans and their discrimination

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/redress-and-reparations-japanese-american-incarceration.

Billions given to Japanese Americans.


1. that link doesn't work
2. the feds gave them reparations, not CA.
3. Asian Americans encompass more than Japanese, and they were all discriminated against in CA. Couldn't buy property, forced segregation.

Where's the reparations for all Asian Americans by CA?


Hey. how about something for us Irish-Americans?

Were the Irish ever denied citizenship or right to own property?


Yes of course! What exactly do you think an indentured servant is? What rights do you think were afforded to involuntarily indentured Irish servants?


The right to "own" their own children
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'll also add that the millions and house for $1 were items of 160 different proposals.

AA leaders in the city were against the passing because of these unreasonable suggestions.

I'm so tired of politicians- from local to natuonal- wasting time. If you want to have a conversation about reparations then have it but dont just submit for clickbait and extreme policies it always undermines the real issue.


Right? OP posted a link to Bill Maher, not exactly the most objective source, who basically cherry-picked those two proposals and presented them as if they were a done deal. Honestly, since he lost Donny Smallhands as a punching bag and was proved wrong about "the bikers" staging a coup to keep him in office, Maher has been reduced to a crank.

I think reparations are absolutely a discussion we should have in this country. Whether or not reparations mean direct cash payouts or something else, or are even a good idea in the first place, should be part of that discussion
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'll also add that the millions and house for $1 were items of 160 different proposals.

AA leaders in the city were against the passing because of these unreasonable suggestions.

I'm so tired of politicians- from local to natuonal- wasting time. If you want to have a conversation about reparations then have it but dont just submit for clickbait and extreme policies it always undermines the real issue.


Right? OP posted a link to Bill Maher, not exactly the most objective source, who basically cherry-picked those two proposals and presented them as if they were a done deal. Honestly, since he lost Donny Smallhands as a punching bag and was proved wrong about "the bikers" staging a coup to keep him in office, Maher has been reduced to a crank.

I think reparations are absolutely a discussion we should have in this country. Whether or not reparations mean direct cash payouts or something else, or are even a good idea in the first place, should be part of that discussion


The 14th amendment precludes any reparations based on race. If you're going to base in on being descended from enslaved peoples, good luck making that workable
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'll also add that the millions and house for $1 were items of 160 different proposals.

AA leaders in the city were against the passing because of these unreasonable suggestions.

I'm so tired of politicians- from local to natuonal- wasting time. If you want to have a conversation about reparations then have it but dont just submit for clickbait and extreme policies it always undermines the real issue.


Right? OP posted a link to Bill Maher, not exactly the most objective source, who basically cherry-picked those two proposals and presented them as if they were a done deal. Honestly, since he lost Donny Smallhands as a punching bag and was proved wrong about "the bikers" staging a coup to keep him in office, Maher has been reduced to a crank.

I think reparations are absolutely a discussion we should have in this country. Whether or not reparations mean direct cash payouts or something else, or are even a good idea in the first place, should be part of that discussion


The 14th amendment precludes any reparations based on race. If you're going to base in on being descended from enslaved peoples, good luck making that workable

A fair point to bring up in the course of the discussion our society is apparently desperate to avoid.
Anonymous
Can someone clarify something for me? Is the purpose of reparations to redress:

a. damages for the violation of human rights and mistreatment during slavery
b. compensation for wages which should have been paid to slaves for their work
c. mistreatment and discrimination after the end of slavery including the denial of economic opportunities

Or is it not possible to separate this out?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'll also add that the millions and house for $1 were items of 160 different proposals.

AA leaders in the city were against the passing because of these unreasonable suggestions.

I'm so tired of politicians- from local to natuonal- wasting time. If you want to have a conversation about reparations then have it but dont just submit for clickbait and extreme policies it always undermines the real issue.


Right? OP posted a link to Bill Maher, not exactly the most objective source, who basically cherry-picked those two proposals and presented them as if they were a done deal. Honestly, since he lost Donny Smallhands as a punching bag and was proved wrong about "the bikers" staging a coup to keep him in office, Maher has been reduced to a crank.

I think reparations are absolutely a discussion we should have in this country. Whether or not reparations mean direct cash payouts or something else, or are even a good idea in the first place, should be part of that discussion


The fact that they were even proposals is insane.

The only thing a discussion regarding reparations will do is to further divide. I honestly think that is the goal here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'll also add that the millions and house for $1 were items of 160 different proposals.

AA leaders in the city were against the passing because of these unreasonable suggestions.

I'm so tired of politicians- from local to natuonal- wasting time. If you want to have a conversation about reparations then have it but dont just submit for clickbait and extreme policies it always undermines the real issue.


Right? OP posted a link to Bill Maher, not exactly the most objective source, who basically cherry-picked those two proposals and presented them as if they were a done deal. Honestly, since he lost Donny Smallhands as a punching bag and was proved wrong about "the bikers" staging a coup to keep him in office, Maher has been reduced to a crank.

I think reparations are absolutely a discussion we should have in this country. Whether or not reparations mean direct cash payouts or something else, or are even a good idea in the first place, should be part of that discussion


The 14th amendment precludes any reparations based on race. If you're going to base in on being descended from enslaved peoples, good luck making that workable


It doesn't preclude it at all. It would be reviewed under strict scrutiny and San Francisco would have to show they have a compelling government interest to pass slavery reparations and use special tax assessments to fund it. This could be the way to make equity a compelling government interest and would be a major boon to progressive educational and criminal justice policies.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'll also add that the millions and house for $1 were items of 160 different proposals.

AA leaders in the city were against the passing because of these unreasonable suggestions.

I'm so tired of politicians- from local to natuonal- wasting time. If you want to have a conversation about reparations then have it but dont just submit for clickbait and extreme policies it always undermines the real issue.


Right? OP posted a link to Bill Maher, not exactly the most objective source, who basically cherry-picked those two proposals and presented them as if they were a done deal. Honestly, since he lost Donny Smallhands as a punching bag and was proved wrong about "the bikers" staging a coup to keep him in office, Maher has been reduced to a crank.

I think reparations are absolutely a discussion we should have in this country. Whether or not reparations mean direct cash payouts or something else, or are even a good idea in the first place, should be part of that discussion


The 14th amendment precludes any reparations based on race. If you're going to base in on being descended from enslaved peoples, good luck making that workable


It doesn't preclude it at all. It would be reviewed under strict scrutiny and San Francisco would have to show they have a compelling government interest to pass slavery reparations and use special tax assessments to fund it. This could be the way to make equity a compelling government interest and would be a major boon to progressive educational and criminal justice policies.


That should be easy since San Francisco was a bastion for slavery. /s

And, California doesn't need reparations to "make equity a compelling government interest and would be a major boon to progressive educational and criminal justice policies." They are doing that already and things are not going too well as a result.


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