San Franciso reparations

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Ethnic Japanese people were also literally kept in labor camps. In some families, US soldiers of Japanese descent went to fight in the US military and their wives and children were sent to labor camps. Shameful. Many of the victims are still alive today. No one is rallying to pay them.

????They did get reparations--though it was peanuts. In 1988.

And freed slaves got 40 acres and a mule.

40 acres and a mule plus 160 years of interest would be a decent amount of money

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m pretty liberal and I think the SF plan sounds bonkers. It seems like a very slippery slope. Racism is real, the wealth gap goes way back to slavery and the Jim Crow laws so something needs to be done to help close that gap, but arbitrary rules about who gets a giant check doesn’t seem like a good solution.

This proposal will literally depopulate SF. The only citizens who will remain there will be those will receive these reparation payments. SF will have to choose between higher taxes to fund this proposal, or reduce govt services, neither of which makes SF an attractive place. Simply bizarre.

It's political grandstanding and virtue signaling.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I want to know what your plan is to pay for it.

A special tax assessment on all non-black residents and sell municipal bonds for outside supporters to help fund.

So what the plan that will actually pass constitutional muster?

The plan would be to deep six this whole idea.

[Anonymous]

SF needs to set the moral example for America and enact this measure. Post! Haste!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Ethnic Japanese people were also literally kept in labor camps. In some families, US soldiers of Japanese descent went to fight in the US military and their wives and children were sent to labor camps. Shameful. Many of the victims are still alive today. No one is rallying to pay them.

????They did get reparations--though it was peanuts. In 1988.

Yes, by the feds. But, CA state played a part. CA politicians pushed for the internment.

https://www.pbs.org/kenburns/the-war/civil-rights-japanese-americans

West Coast congressmen also agitated for the removal of the Japanese. Los Angeles representative Leland Ford insisted that “all Japanese, whether citizens or not, be placed in concentration camps.” In the end, political pressure prevailed, and the army was empowered to force all West Coast Americans from their homes

So yes, CA state owes Japanese Americans reparations, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For all of you who talk out your butts about Asian Americans and their discrimination

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/redress-and-reparations-japanese-american-incarceration.

Billions given to Japanese Americans.

1. that link doesn't work
2. the feds gave them reparations, not CA.
3. Asian Americans encompass more than Japanese, and they were all discriminated against in CA. Couldn't buy property, forced segregation.

Where's the reparations for all Asian Americans by CA?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For all of you who talk out your butts about Asian Americans and their discrimination

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/redress-and-reparations-japanese-american-incarceration.

Billions given to Japanese Americans.

1. that link doesn't work
2. the feds gave them reparations, not CA.
3. Asian Americans encompass more than Japanese, and they were all discriminated against in CA. Couldn't buy property, forced segregation.

Where's the reparations for all Asian Americans by CA?

Hey. how about something for us Irish-Americans?

[Anonymous]

In a state that never had slavery, let’s take money from people who never owned slaves and give it to people who never were slaves.

And let’s pretend this can only bring benefits and will have no unintended consequences.

Giddy up! Let’s see what this solves.

[Anonymous]

When you look at what a normal home costs, 5 mill doesn’t seem so crazy. A house is the kind of think that non-slave families routinely pass down through generations.

[Anonymous]

I would also like to point out relative to people talking about Chinese Americans- THIS is a black moment. You need to think carefully before injecting yourselves or others into it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want to know what your plan is to pay for it.

A special tax assessment on all non-black residents and sell municipal bonds for outside supporters to help fund.

Oh that will be interesring. That would be illegal.

A tax based on your color. That"ll generate some violence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In a state that never had slavery, let’s take money from people who never owned slaves and give it to people who never were slaves.

And let’s pretend this can only bring benefits and will have no unintended consequences.

Giddy up! Let’s see what this solves.

Yep. What could possibly go wrong?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would also like to point out relative to people talking about Chinese Americans- THIS is a black moment. You need to think carefully before injecting yourselves or others into it.

It’s actually not a black moment. It’s a slavery moment and the descendants of slaves are now many colors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would also like to point out relative to people talking about Chinese Americans- THIS is a black moment. You need to think carefully before injecting yourselves or others into it.

It’s actually not a black moment. It’s a slavery moment and the descendants of slaves are now many colors.

Chattel slavery is a black issue. Period. Check yourself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would also like to point out relative to people talking about Chinese Americans- THIS is a black moment. You need to think carefully before injecting yourselves or others into it.

It’s actually not a black moment. It’s a slavery moment and the descendants of slaves are now many colors.

It is NOT just slavery. Its everything that has come after slavery perpetuated by the federal government and state governments and local officials. Time and time and time again. You can point to X number of years for each of the groups mentioned here and yes, they were targeted (Chinese Americans, Japanese Americans, Irish Americans, Italian Americans, etc) but they were not targeted for 400 years. Their children were not taken from them and sold. They were not brutalized and raped to have more chattel children.

And I will say this for the last time. Those groups- many of them knowing full well the issues against their kin- came here anyways, on their own. There is a difference. Discrimination is different than racism.

"Racism is the belief that race has an effect on human abilities and traits and that a particular race is superior to other. Discrimination is the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex. This is the key difference between racism and discrimination"