Hamilton historically and accurate and a letdown

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The music was horrible and sounded like highschool slam poetry.


We loved it and so did many others - why get your kicks raining on others’ joyful parades?

White people rap music. Listen to some JayZ, Public Enemy, DMX, Lil Wayne and other rappers to get an idea of what rap music can sound like. The Hamilton songs are like Disney music channel watered down style for white people, who feel so street when they rap along. Upside: you don't have to go "mmm" when the n bomb drops.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The music was horrible and sounded like highschool slam poetry.


We loved it and so did many others - why get your kicks raining on others’ joyful parades?

White people rap music. Listen to some JayZ, Public Enemy, DMX, Lil Wayne and other rappers to get an idea of what rap music can sound like. The Hamilton songs are like Disney music channel watered down style for white people, who feel so street when they rap along. Upside: you don't have to go "mmm" when the n bomb drops.


The creator is Latino not white. Many of the performers were POC.

I preferred that it was not full of misogynistic vulgar messaging. That is the worst part of rap.

It was great to be able to see a show with youth.

Everyone I saw show with was either Latino or African American and all
Loved it.

It was a celebration of America’s diversity and little explored part of early history in an entertaining way.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP, you should definitely not go see Six.


Six, like Hamilton, panders. So annoying.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, you should definitely not go see Six.


Six, like Hamilton, panders. So annoying.


Another show my teen wants to see … we love that creators are finding creative ways to engage our youth and us with history …

If there is a market demand it is not called pandering but market supply …
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how utterly triggered Hamilton fans are whenever anyone says they didn't like it. Good grief.


There are plenty of valid, worthy criticisms of Hamilton. “Not being historically accurate enough” is not one of them. It’s still okay to not like it!


What I wonder is how it will hold up over time. In 25, 50, 75 years, will people still be interested in seeing this musical version of Hamilton's life told in a very 2010s kind of way?


I’m guessing it will be treasured for the genius work that it is.

People still like Mozart for his music that was composed in a 1780s kind of way.


OMG. Comparing this rap musical to... Mozart? No words.
DP
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The music was horrible and sounded like highschool slam poetry.


THIS ^^
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ha yeah definitely don't see Six, or Pacific Overtures, or Les Mis...

I mean you don't have to love the show but obviously it is going to be a simplified version of history.


Add to the list, don't watch South Pacific, or Assassins, or Miss Saigon, or Newsies, or anything set any time other than today, and featuring any story line that involves history or actual historical people. And as someone earlier noted: Don't go near any Shakespeare histories, OP! Or really any Shakespeare at all, because even in comedies his geography is all wrong, and that will only inflame the ulcer you''re working on with your ire over Hamilton.

Maybe just watch modern sitcoms on TV. Not dramas, they might get police procedure wrong and that's inaccurate....Wait! It's inaccurate that on sitcoms, people live in gigantic apartments in what are actually very high-cost city centers! Stick to just news and documentaries. There you go, OP.


Case in point - no criticism of Hamiliton is allowed. Good thing we're anonymous here, or unhinged posters like the PP would hunt us down at home and literally get in our faces, not just figuratively from behind their computer screen! #triggered
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ha yeah definitely don't see Six, or Pacific Overtures, or Les Mis...

I mean you don't have to love the show but obviously it is going to be a simplified version of history.


Add to the list, don't watch South Pacific, or Assassins, or Miss Saigon, or Newsies, or anything set any time other than today, and featuring any story line that involves history or actual historical people. And as someone earlier noted: Don't go near any Shakespeare histories, OP! Or really any Shakespeare at all, because even in comedies his geography is all wrong, and that will only inflame the ulcer you''re working on with your ire over Hamilton.

Maybe just watch modern sitcoms on TV. Not dramas, they might get police procedure wrong and that's inaccurate....Wait! It's inaccurate that on sitcoms, people live in gigantic apartments in what are actually very high-cost city centers! Stick to just news and documentaries. There you go, OP.


Case in point - no criticism of Hamiliton is allowed. Good thing we're anonymous here, or unhinged posters like the PP would hunt us down at home and literally get in our faces, not just figuratively from behind their computer screen! #triggered


Sounds like the few who don’t like Hamilton are the triggered ones.

Many people said something along the lines of taste is taste but we loved it. The critique that it was historically inaccurate was silly. It was much more accurate than many historical movies and shows. And the best part was it spurred so many youth to read more about early American history.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We're talking about the hit musical?

What a piece of trash.



Sorry not sorry most musicals are awful.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ha yeah definitely don't see Six, or Pacific Overtures, or Les Mis...

I mean you don't have to love the show but obviously it is going to be a simplified version of history.


Add to the list, don't watch South Pacific, or Assassins, or Miss Saigon, or Newsies, or anything set any time other than today, and featuring any story line that involves history or actual historical people. And as someone earlier noted: Don't go near any Shakespeare histories, OP! Or really any Shakespeare at all, because even in comedies his geography is all wrong, and that will only inflame the ulcer you''re working on with your ire over Hamilton.

Maybe just watch modern sitcoms on TV. Not dramas, they might get police procedure wrong and that's inaccurate....Wait! It's inaccurate that on sitcoms, people live in gigantic apartments in what are actually very high-cost city centers! Stick to just news and documentaries. There you go, OP.


Case in point - no criticism of Hamiliton is allowed. Good thing we're anonymous here, or unhinged posters like the PP would hunt us down at home and literally get in our faces, not just figuratively from behind their computer screen! #triggered


Sounds like the few who don’t like Hamilton are the triggered ones.

Many people said something along the lines of taste is taste but we loved it. The critique that it was historically inaccurate was silly. It was much more accurate than many historical movies and shows. And the best part was it spurred so many youth to read more about early American history.


The title of the thread is obviously not a positive one - the OP wanted to know if anyone else felt the same way. Many do. But of course, the Hamilton stans can't resist crashing the thread to wax poetic about how "genius" this show was. I'm sure there are other threads that are all about fangirling for this silly show - why the need to come here?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We're talking about the hit musical?

What a piece of trash.



Sorry not sorry most musicals are awful.


DP. Some are wonderful. This one was not.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ha yeah definitely don't see Six, or Pacific Overtures, or Les Mis...

I mean you don't have to love the show but obviously it is going to be a simplified version of history.


Add to the list, don't watch South Pacific, or Assassins, or Miss Saigon, or Newsies, or anything set any time other than today, and featuring any story line that involves history or actual historical people. And as someone earlier noted: Don't go near any Shakespeare histories, OP! Or really any Shakespeare at all, because even in comedies his geography is all wrong, and that will only inflame the ulcer you''re working on with your ire over Hamilton.

Maybe just watch modern sitcoms on TV. Not dramas, they might get police procedure wrong and that's inaccurate....Wait! It's inaccurate that on sitcoms, people live in gigantic apartments in what are actually very high-cost city centers! Stick to just news and documentaries. There you go, OP.


Case in point - no criticism of Hamiliton is allowed. Good thing we're anonymous here, or unhinged posters like the PP would hunt us down at home and literally get in our faces, not just figuratively from behind their computer screen! #triggered


Sounds like the few who don’t like Hamilton are the triggered ones.

Many people said something along the lines of taste is taste but we loved it. The critique that it was historically inaccurate was silly. It was much more accurate than many historical movies and shows. And the best part was it spurred so many youth to read more about early American history.


The title of the thread is obviously not a positive one - the OP wanted to know if anyone else felt the same way. Many do. But of course, the Hamilton stans can't resist crashing the thread to wax poetic about how "genius" this show was. I'm sure there are other threads that are all about fangirling for this silly show - why the need to come here?



Nice try defending monopoly of unjustified position and not brokering any dissent.

OP’s opening statement invites discussion around historical accuracy of Hamilton show. Like many others, we found it to be remarkably faithful to history but used artistic listen e in the way they told the story.

OP’s kids love it. Talk about not just looking, but kicking, a gift horse in the mouth.

“I wish Hamilton was more historically accurate since my kids are obsessed with it. We've read through all of the inaccuracy and it just bothers me that they put that much time and energy into a play, but we're so off base on so many historical facts. I get that some creative liberties will be taken but I guess it just is frustrating considering the large audience that it has. They really could have done something special and accurate to really shine a light on American history.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ha yeah definitely don't see Six, or Pacific Overtures, or Les Mis...

I mean you don't have to love the show but obviously it is going to be a simplified version of history.


Add to the list, don't watch South Pacific, or Assassins, or Miss Saigon, or Newsies, or anything set any time other than today, and featuring any story line that involves history or actual historical people. And as someone earlier noted: Don't go near any Shakespeare histories, OP! Or really any Shakespeare at all, because even in comedies his geography is all wrong, and that will only inflame the ulcer you''re working on with your ire over Hamilton.

Maybe just watch modern sitcoms on TV. Not dramas, they might get police procedure wrong and that's inaccurate....Wait! It's inaccurate that on sitcoms, people live in gigantic apartments in what are actually very high-cost city centers! Stick to just news and documentaries. There you go, OP.


Case in point - no criticism of Hamiliton is allowed. Good thing we're anonymous here, or unhinged posters like the PP would hunt us down at home and literally get in our faces, not just figuratively from behind their computer screen! #triggered




Thanks for the laugh! I'm not #triggered. It's sarcasm.

And the post doesn't say No One Can Criticize Hamilton Ever, FFS. Since you're sarcasm-impaired, I'll interpret: The post mocks how OP and OP's ilk fail to comprehend that works of art--not just Hamiton, but many others-- do not have to be perfect historical records. That's not their purpose. But OP just does not get that. Hence some fun with OP's take on historical "inaccuracy," a take which leaves OP with pretty much nothing left to watch, listen to or read.

Hope you grow a sense of humor soon! First, though, get the stick out of your backside. Can't learn to laugh if you've got one of those stuck up there, PP!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ha yeah definitely don't see Six, or Pacific Overtures, or Les Mis...

I mean you don't have to love the show but obviously it is going to be a simplified version of history.


Add to the list, don't watch South Pacific, or Assassins, or Miss Saigon, or Newsies, or anything set any time other than today, and featuring any story line that involves history or actual historical people. And as someone earlier noted: Don't go near any Shakespeare histories, OP! Or really any Shakespeare at all, because even in comedies his geography is all wrong, and that will only inflame the ulcer you''re working on with your ire over Hamilton.

Maybe just watch modern sitcoms on TV. Not dramas, they might get police procedure wrong and that's inaccurate....Wait! It's inaccurate that on sitcoms, people live in gigantic apartments in what are actually very high-cost city centers! Stick to just news and documentaries. There you go, OP.


Case in point - no criticism of Hamiliton is allowed. Good thing we're anonymous here, or unhinged posters like the PP would hunt us down at home and literally get in our faces, not just figuratively from behind their computer screen! #triggered


Sounds like the few who don’t like Hamilton are the triggered ones.

Many people said something along the lines of taste is taste but we loved it. The critique that it was historically inaccurate was silly. It was much more accurate than many historical movies and shows. And the best part was it spurred so many youth to read more about early American history.


The title of the thread is obviously not a positive one - the OP wanted to know if anyone else felt the same way. Many do. But of course, the Hamilton stans can't resist crashing the thread to wax poetic about how "genius" this show was. I'm sure there are other threads that are all about fangirling for this silly show - why the need to come here?


You really don't understand how DCUM threads work, if you believe the bold. Any threads, not just this one.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ha yeah definitely don't see Six, or Pacific Overtures, or Les Mis...

I mean you don't have to love the show but obviously it is going to be a simplified version of history.


Add to the list, don't watch South Pacific, or Assassins, or Miss Saigon, or Newsies, or anything set any time other than today, and featuring any story line that involves history or actual historical people. And as someone earlier noted: Don't go near any Shakespeare histories, OP! Or really any Shakespeare at all, because even in comedies his geography is all wrong, and that will only inflame the ulcer you''re working on with your ire over Hamilton.

Maybe just watch modern sitcoms on TV. Not dramas, they might get police procedure wrong and that's inaccurate....Wait! It's inaccurate that on sitcoms, people live in gigantic apartments in what are actually very high-cost city centers! Stick to just news and documentaries. There you go, OP.


Case in point - no criticism of Hamiliton is allowed. Good thing we're anonymous here, or unhinged posters like the PP would hunt us down at home and literally get in our faces, not just figuratively from behind their computer screen! #triggered


Sounds like the few who don’t like Hamilton are the triggered ones.

Many people said something along the lines of taste is taste but we loved it. The critique that it was historically inaccurate was silly. It was much more accurate than many historical movies and shows. And the best part was it spurred so many youth to read more about early American history.


The title of the thread is obviously not a positive one - the OP wanted to know if anyone else felt the same way. Many do. But of course, the Hamilton stans can't resist crashing the thread to wax poetic about how "genius" this show was. I'm sure there are other threads that are all about fangirling for this silly show - why the need to come here?



Nice try defending monopoly of unjustified position and not brokering any dissent.

OP’s opening statement invites discussion around historical accuracy of Hamilton show. Like many others, we found it to be remarkably faithful to history but used artistic listen e in the way they told the story.

OP’s kids love it. Talk about not just looking, but kicking, a gift horse in the mouth.

“I wish Hamilton was more historically accurate since my kids are obsessed with it. We've read through all of the inaccuracy and it just bothers me that they put that much time and energy into a play, but we're so off base on so many historical facts. I get that some creative liberties will be taken but I guess it just is frustrating considering the large audience that it has. They really could have done something special and accurate to really shine a light on American history.



Yeah the thread is about historical accuracy of the show -/ liberties were taken with minor facts to aid story telling while the core facts were true.


Fact-checking ‘Hamilton’ the musical
https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/jul/01/fact-checking-hamilton-musical/

IF YOUR TIME IS SHORT
* “Hamilton” the musical is largely faithful to Alexander Hamilton’s life, with a few events transposed in time and some details changed for dramatic license.
* Some historians have said the musical over-glorifies Hamilton by exaggerating his antislavery credentials and downplaying some of his less popular viewpoints.

How accurate is Hamilton?
BY CBS INTERACTIVE STAFF
UPDATED ON: JULY 6, 2020 / 3:40 PM / CBS NEWS

Fact: Born a bastard
Fact: Hamilton an immigrant
Fiction: Forefather demographics (yeah we know - that was to reflect current day demographics)
Fact: Hamilton against slavery
Fact: Washington's aide
Fiction: Angelica's romantic prospects (she was already married and did not have to marry rich)
Fiction: Schuyler siblings (in real life she had two brothers not just two sisters)
Fact: First treasury secretary
Fiction: Hamilton fired (in real life John Adams did not fire him when he became president as H resigned before)
Fact: Hamilton's affair
Fact: Exposed on paper
Fact: Sex scandal
Fact: Duel to the death
Fiction: Timing of death (did not happen after Burt’s failed run for president in 1800 but 4 years later when Burr was VP but lost run for Governor of NY)
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