Out of control college snowflakes at UC-Davis

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So looks like
I was right.

NOT STUDENTS.

Kirk shows up and gets the proud boys to instigate some unaffiliated counter protesters, so he can go on FOX NEWS and lie about being protested by students.
When are we going to start calling out this crap?

Provide a link stating these were not students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MAGA-types (I don't even call them Republicans anymore) love playing up the faux outrage, don't they?

LWNJs (I don't even call them Democrats anymore) love spewing lies to promote their victim narrative, don't they?

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Anonymous wrote:Two people arrested. Not affiliated with the university. In other words, not students. The premise of the post is wrong.

Understand that people like Charlie Kirk are not thought leaders. They are provocateurs. And it’s not students who react this way to them, it tends to be the Antifa types who clash regularly with the America-hating right-wing.

No, the title is not at all wrong.

First of all, I have read that one of the protesters arrested were not affiliated with the school. The other person's identity has not been confirmed.
They were still out of control. Nobody was arrested for breaking windows or throwing eggs. The arrests were because of graffiti painted on a building.
And, if we want to talk about who exactly is "America-hating," I would say those who are preventing freedom of speech and assembly are guilty of this.

He was free to speak. They were free to protest. Kirk’s message is fundamentally anti-American. The end. But nongovernment threatened his free speech rights.

You act like all speech is valid. Charlie Kirk’s speech isn’t valid. He still gave it and there were consequences for it since most people think he is a vile person.

Free speech doesn’t mean you’re owed a platform and a channel to say what you want unchallenged.

Tell us how Kirk's message is "UnAmerican." Be specific.

When student protests include blocking entrances, breaking windows, throwing eggs...... no, my dear. This is not promoting freedom of speech.

Among many examples, Kirk is a prolific election denier and liar. He attacks democracy.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/530239-geraldo-rivera-charlie-kirk-clash-over-voter-fraud-that-is-so-dishonest/

And has been already pointed out, it wasn’t “students” doing these things.

DP. Still waiting on those citations.

[Anonymous]

Charlie Kirk is a vile POS. The only unfortunate thing is that he got exactly what he was looking for.

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Anonymous wrote:Two people arrested. Not affiliated with the university. In other words, not students. The premise of the post is wrong.

Understand that people like Charlie Kirk are not thought leaders. They are provocateurs. And it’s not students who react this way to them, it tends to be the Antifa types who clash regularly with the America-hating right-wing.

No, the title is not at all wrong.

First of all, I have read that one of the protesters arrested were not affiliated with the school. The other person's identity has not been confirmed.
They were still out of control. Nobody was arrested for breaking windows or throwing eggs. The arrests were because of graffiti painted on a building.
And, if we want to talk about who exactly is "America-hating," I would say those who are preventing freedom of speech and assembly are guilty of this.

He was free to speak. They were free to protest. Kirk’s message is fundamentally anti-American. The end. But nongovernment threatened his free speech rights.

You act like all speech is valid. Charlie Kirk’s speech isn’t valid. He still gave it and there were consequences for it since most people think he is a vile person.

Free speech doesn’t mean you’re owed a platform and a channel to say what you want unchallenged.

Tell us how Kirk's message is "UnAmerican." Be specific.

When student protests include blocking entrances, breaking windows, throwing eggs...... no, my dear. This is not promoting freedom of speech.

Among many examples, Kirk is a prolific election denier and liar. He attacks democracy.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/530239-geraldo-rivera-charlie-kirk-clash-over-voter-fraud-that-is-so-dishonest/

And has been already pointed out, it wasn’t “students” doing these things.

WTF?
How is questioning an election "UnAmerican?" It's not. There are still a lot of questions about the legitimacy of the election including judges that allowed election protocols to take place against the laws of a state. And, the impact a letter from 51 "former intelligence officials" had on the election. Turns out the crap they spewed was false.

Prove it wasn't students. Better yet... here is a citation to prove it WAS students....

Marco Perez, a Chicano studies and design student at UC Davis, heard on Monday night that Kirk would be visiting campus. On Tuesday, he designed some protest placards and handed them out to the demonstrators. “Obviously, the students’ views do not align with those of Charlie Kirk,” Perez said. “I think that some of the ideas he presents are problematic, provocative and they go against the needs and the beliefs of the students here on campus.”

Read more at: https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article273154315.html#storylink=cpy

Kirk didn’t “question an election.” He actively perpetuated a fiction that he knew was a lie. He is among the most prolific of people continuing to persist with the fiction that is destabilizing. https://youtu.be/qi_o1I7wOmA

I’m glad you acknowledge that the UC Davis student quoted designed a placard and wasn’t committing violence or throwing eggs etc.

Why were Kirk supporting Proud Boys inciting violence? Answer that.

Citation for this claim. Because, what we know so far is that students were the ones in attendance at the "mostly peaceful protest."

The Proud Boys' presence on campus has been a thing for months.

https://theaggie.org/2023/03/03/uc-davis-students-organize-community-and-mutual-aid-event-no-fash-fest/

Here are some details from the October clashes:

"About an hour into the event, a group of counter-protesters who are believed to be affiliated with the Proud Boys based on their attire, arrived. The Proud Boys are an exclusively male far-right extremist group that has a history of instigating and engaging with political violence; some members are also involved in white supremacist groups.

Members of the crowd used pepper spray, including those identifiable as Proud Boys, although it is currently unclear who initiated its use. According to eyewitness reports there were also physical altercations, although Farrow said that only one such report has been officially made to the UC Davis Police Department (UCDPD) as of Oct. 28."

https://theaggie.org/2022/11/03/students-react-to-violence-outside-of-turning-point-usa-event/

For the record, UC Davis itself has taken the stance that Kirk was welcome to speak and that this week's clashes produced only "minor" incidents.

https://www.ucdavis.edu/news/controversial-student-led-event-goes-planned

So, again, this is just another in a running battle between ANTIFA and Proud Boy types. The difference here is ANTIFA is the good guys. ANTIFA stands for "anti-fascists." You know, they're kind of like my grandfather, a WWII veteran who stormed the beach at Normandy.

Nowhere in the UC Davis news release did they condemn the violence and vandalism caused by the protesters. Amazing.

And btw? My grandfather was also a WWII veteran who would be appalled by the behavior of ANTIFA. Just disgusting that you call thugs "the good guys."
DP

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https://www.foxnews.com/us/elon-musk-respond-protesters-smash-windows-hurl-eggs-charlie-kirk-event-college-campus.amp

About 100 protesters at the University of California, Davis, surrounded a venue attempting to disrupt an event Tuesday evening headlined by conservative personality and Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk. The event was organized by the school’s Turning Point chapter.

The protesters, who were mostly wearing black, clashed with law enforcement officers and other students, including attendees of the event, as they smashed windows, hurled eggs, used pepper spray and blocked people from entering the University Credit Union Center, where the event was held.

Gosh I hope the liberal intelligencia condemns this protest with the same fervor they have others.

One officer sustained an injury when he was jumped on from behind and pushed to the ground, and two people were arrested and taken to Yolo County Jail for allegedly painting graffiti on an exterior wall of the University Credit Union Center, or UCUC

The cowards of course covered their faces as much as possible. Isn’t the point of college to be have your beliefs challenged and at least allow others to be heard? Shameful.

Naw, not Charlie Kirk. I mean, I guess it would be better to have no reaction and let him speak to an empty room or something but Kirk is an enemy of the state who has actively worked to undermine American democracy. So it makes sense that democracy-loving patriots would make their feelings known about his presence. He’s a vile piece of shit who no one would cry for if he dropped dead today of an aneurysm.

"Democracy-loving patriots" who spray graffiti, break windows, jump police officers, throw eggs and other objects, block entrances, and pepper spray others? You have a very interesting definition of "democracy-loving patriots."
DP

You people just love oversimplifying, muddling and conflating. The people who smashed windows and sprayed graffiti are not "democrats." They are black bloc anarchocommunists. Democrats believe in government and institutions, anarchocommunists do not.

They are widely divergent on most issues, and only have a handful in common, for example they both oppose fascism.

So where are the Democrats condemning this behavior? All we've seen on this thread are the usual liberal apologists, rationalizing this abhorrent behavior away.

Nope.
The very first posts condemn the behavior.
But you’re going to have to prove that it was students that engaged in it.

[Anonymous]

LWNJ Narrative:

A bunch of college kids block an entrance to listen to someone speak whom they call vile:

ABSOLUTELY OKAY

A bunch of people block an entrance to an abortion clinic because they find it a vile practice.

LWNJ: But they’re Riiiiiiights!

Hypocrites, everyone of them.

Also linking past incidents to what happened this week has zero bearing. Past performance does NOT indicate future events.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m gonna need to see proof that it was students being violent .

PP can't provide that. Best PP can do is some student designing posters.

The violent clashes were ANTIFA and Proud Boys who fight at all these things.

This "woe is me, my extremist, racist viewpoints are being censored by woke university students isn't that against free speech" whining (hardly a new playbook for these losers) is just really old, tired, and no one is buying it anymore... except Fox News, of course.

I'll tell you what's really old and tired: the insistence that college students aren't involved in these violent and destructive "protests." Protest all you like. But when you engage in illegal activities, you are no longer "peacefully protesting." Maybe get that through your head(s), because no one is buying it anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m gonna need to see proof that it was students being violent .

PP can't provide that. Best PP can do is some student designing posters.

The violent clashes were ANTIFA and Proud Boys who fight at all these things.

This "woe is me, my extremist, racist viewpoints are being censored by woke university students isn't that against free speech" whining (hardly a new playbook for these losers) is just really old, tired, and no one is buying it anymore... except Fox News, of course.

I'll tell you what's really old and tired: the insistence that college students aren't involved in these violent and destructive "protests." Protest all you like. But when you engage in illegal activities, you are no longer "peacefully protesting." Maybe get that through your head(s), because no one is buying it anymore.

What part of “not all people at the protest were committing crimes/vandalism” don’t you understand?

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Tired of everyone pretending RWNJ agitators aren’t responsible for most of this stuff.
They were responsible for Charlottesville
They were responsible for the George Floyd rioting
They were responsible for January 6th
They are likely responsible for this

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Anonymous wrote:I’m gonna need to see proof that it was students being violent .

PP can't provide that. Best PP can do is some student designing posters.

The violent clashes were ANTIFA and Proud Boys who fight at all these things.

This "woe is me, my extremist, racist viewpoints are being censored by woke university students isn't that against free speech" whining (hardly a new playbook for these losers) is just really old, tired, and no one is buying it anymore... except Fox News, of course.

WAIT JUST A MINUTE HERE!!!!

Antifa is just "an idea!" That is what we have been told repeatedly. Jerry Nadler says they don't exist. Biden calls Antifa "an idea." Hell, even Joy Behar says they don't exist.
How can "an idea" cause violence and break windows?

And, what proof do you have that these were NOT students who were "protesting" on........<checks notes> ..... a college campus?

Exactly. What a joke. Even the media is saying some Antifa were there (along with college protesters). But we've been told they don't exist! How utterly confusing!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:LWNJ Narrative:

A bunch of college kids block an entrance to listen to someone speak whom they call vile:

ABSOLUTELY OKAY

A bunch of people block an entrance to an abortion clinic because they find it a vile practice.

LWNJ: But they’re Riiiiiiights!

Hypocrites, everyone of them.

Also linking past incidents to what happened this week has zero bearing. Past performance does NOT indicate future events.

Well for starters the students are actually members of the organization that is hosting the speaker that they are protesting. Random religious whackos that decide to show up to an abortion clinic are trying to step in between a woman and her doctor and a personal medical decision. So many differences between these two scenarios.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not seeing students blocking doors.
Not seeing students vandalizing anything
Not seeing them interrupt Charlie’s speech


I see peaceful protest and chanting.

Nice gaslighting. You clearly don't want to look too hard, do you? Here ya go:

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Anonymous wrote:I’m gonna need to see proof that it was students being violent .

PP can't provide that. Best PP can do is some student designing posters.

The violent clashes were ANTIFA and Proud Boys who fight at all these things.

This "woe is me, my extremist, racist viewpoints are being censored by woke university students isn't that against free speech" whining (hardly a new playbook for these losers) is just really old, tired, and no one is buying it anymore... except Fox News, of course.

WAIT JUST A MINUTE HERE!!!!

Antifa is just "an idea!" That is what we have been told repeatedly. Jerry Nadler says they don't exist. Biden calls Antifa "an idea." Hell, even Joy Behar says they don't exist.
How can "an idea" cause violence and break windows?

And, what proof do you have that these were NOT students who were "protesting" on........<checks notes> ..... a college campus?

Exactly. What a joke. Even the media is saying some Antifa were there (along with college protesters). But we've been told they don't exist! How utterly confusing!

The group of protesters is in no way collectively responsible for the actions of other random unaffiliated people.

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Anonymous wrote:This wasn’t UC Davis students behaving this way.

It was basically new front on the Antifa-Proud Boys clashes in Portland and Charlottesville.

Kirk and his disgusting ilk choose college campuses to provoke incidents like this. The Proud Boys, who are a criminal organization that hates America and all that it stands for, are largely responsible for the violence.

https://katu.com/news/nation-world/suspected-antifa-members-accused-of-vandalizing-calif-university-in-protest-of-conservative-speaker-charlie-kirk-turning-point-usa-uc-davis

DCUM says Kirk hates America. So why would the Proud Boys protest him?

You are truly all kinds of stupid. Were you dropped on your head multiple times as a child?

Cute. Insulting the pp. But, you didn't answer the question.

Proud Boys are aligned with Kirk, not protesting him. They are there to fight the patriots in the Antifa movement.

Kirk and the Proud Boys are anti-American white supremacists and fascists. They are on the same side. And you know this.

You are not nearly as clever as you think.

"Patriots"??
DP