Out of control college snowflakes at UC-Davis

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This was not free speech

January 6 was two years ago. Every Republican I know was appalled by the behavior, we and they are so tired of the what aboutism that seems to occur every time anti free speech activists act like this or worse.

We absolutely should allow hate speech. Hate speech is a term thrown around by others to put down ANY speech they disagree with!

The bolded above is completely false. Most Republicans are still trying to whitewash, deny and deflect from it rather than owning up to it and accepting responsibility.

Not at all.

What we are saying is that there is not equal justice when it comes to those entering the Capitol on that day.
There are far too many people who have been over charged for just entering the Capitol - trespassing - and not committing any violence or destruction.
They are receiving sentences that are much lengthy than rioters during the summer of 2020 that set buildings ablaze and were quite violent during the "mostly peaceful protests."
Or, people who have raped or attacked others ON VIDEO.

The vast majority of people arrested did nothing more than trespass. That - my dear - is a fact.

You're either lying or being lied to. Out of the thousands who marched on the Capitol there were well over 800 people illegally entered the Capitol and trespassed on January 6th. Of those 800 who trespassed, the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of them got off with no charges whatsoever.

Of the 800 who trespassed, only a small handful are actually being detained and prosecuted - those being the ones who were at the vanguard, the ones who were at the front of the group and in high profile, smashing their way in, assaulting officers, making specific threats, vandalizing Capitol spaces, stealing items and so on.

If Charlie Kirk is far right, why would far right people be trying to stop him from speaking using violence in the same manner that was used at the Capitol?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This wasn’t UC Davis students behaving this way.

It was basically new front on the Antifa-Proud Boys clashes in Portland and Charlottesville.

Kirk and his disgusting ilk choose college campuses to provoke incidents like this. The Proud Boys, who are a criminal organization that hates America and all that it stands for, are largely responsible for the violence.

https://katu.com/news/nation-world/suspected-antifa-members-accused-of-vandalizing-calif-university-in-protest-of-conservative-speaker-charlie-kirk-turning-point-usa-uc-davis

DCUM says Kirk hates America. So why would the Proud Boys protest him?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was not free speech

January 6 was two years ago. Every Republican I know was appalled by the behavior, we and they are so tired of the what aboutism that seems to occur every time anti free speech activists act like this or worse.

We absolutely should allow hate speech. Hate speech is a term thrown around by others to put down ANY speech they disagree with!

The bolded above is completely false. Most Republicans are still trying to whitewash, deny and deflect from it rather than owning up to it and accepting responsibility.

Not at all.

What we are saying is that there is not equal justice when it comes to those entering the Capitol on that day.
There are far too many people who have been over charged for just entering the Capitol - trespassing - and not committing any violence or destruction.
They are receiving sentences that are much lengthy than rioters during the summer of 2020 that set buildings ablaze and were quite violent during the "mostly peaceful protests."
Or, people who have raped or attacked others ON VIDEO.

The vast majority of people arrested did nothing more than trespass. That - my dear - is a fact.

You're either lying or being lied to. Out of the thousands who marched on the Capitol there were well over 800 people illegally entered the Capitol and trespassed on January 6th. Of those 800 who trespassed, the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of them got off with no charges whatsoever.

Of the 800 who trespassed, only a small handful are actually being detained and prosecuted - those being the ones who were at the vanguard, the ones who were at the front of the group and in high profile, smashing their way in, assaulting officers, making specific threats, vandalizing Capitol spaces, stealing items and so on.

You are ignorant of what is happening.

Here is one case - there are many more like this.
Daniel Goodwyn. Was in the Capitol for less than a minute. He left when he was told to. He entered around 3:20 and didn't realize he was not allowed to.
He has spent a month in jail & a year on home confinement pre-trial.

J6 is under a lot of scrutiny now. About Time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m gonna need to see proof that it was students being violent .

PP can't provide that. Best PP can do is some student designing posters.

The violent clashes were ANTIFA and Proud Boys who fight at all these things.

This "woe is me, my extremist, racist viewpoints are being censored by woke university students isn't that against free speech" whining (hardly a new playbook for these losers) is just really old, tired, and no one is buying it anymore... except Fox News, of course.

WAIT JUST A MINUTE HERE!!!!

Antifa is just "an idea!" That is what we have been told repeatedly. Jerry Nadler says they don't exist. Biden calls Antifa "an idea." Hell, even Joy Behar says they don't exist.
How can "an idea" cause violence and break windows?

And, what proof do you have that these were NOT students who were "protesting" on........<checks notes> ..... a college campus?

You need adderall or something.

And LOL demanding I prove a negative. No, bub. You made the assertion that it's college students breaking windows, commiting violence, etc. It's on you to offer evidence. So far all you've got is someone making a sign.

UC Davis says the incidents were "minor." You're hanging everyone on a despicable liar, provocateur and opportunist, Charlie Kirk. A man who hates America and all that it stands for.

NP. If Kirk hates America, then Antifa and Proud Boys should LOVE him.

[Anonymous]

Anyone else notice how the libs will excuse violence when committed for THEIR cause?

They will also blame events from months if not years ago as their reason for excusing such heinous acts that happened a few days ago.

Some people sound as bad as Adam blaming Eve for eating that forbidden fruit. It didn’t work then, that dog don’t hunt now!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not seeing students blocking doors.
Not seeing students vandalizing anything
Not seeing them interrupt Charlie’s speech


I see peaceful protest and chanting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MAGA: How dare those kids attack the police!

Also MAGA:

One more time, for those in the cheap seats

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This wasn’t UC Davis students behaving this way.

It was basically new front on the Antifa-Proud Boys clashes in Portland and Charlottesville.

Kirk and his disgusting ilk choose college campuses to provoke incidents like this. The Proud Boys, who are a criminal organization that hates America and all that it stands for, are largely responsible for the violence.

https://katu.com/news/nation-world/suspected-antifa-members-accused-of-vandalizing-calif-university-in-protest-of-conservative-speaker-charlie-kirk-turning-point-usa-uc-davis

DCUM says Kirk hates America. So why would the Proud Boys protest him?

You are truly all kinds of stupid. Were you dropped on your head multiple times as a child?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This wasn’t UC Davis students behaving this way.

It was basically new front on the Antifa-Proud Boys clashes in Portland and Charlottesville.

Kirk and his disgusting ilk choose college campuses to provoke incidents like this. The Proud Boys, who are a criminal organization that hates America and all that it stands for, are largely responsible for the violence.

https://katu.com/news/nation-world/suspected-antifa-members-accused-of-vandalizing-calif-university-in-protest-of-conservative-speaker-charlie-kirk-turning-point-usa-uc-davis

DCUM says Kirk hates America. So why would the Proud Boys protest him?

You are truly all kinds of stupid. Were you dropped on your head multiple times as a child?

Cute. Insulting the pp. But, you didn't answer the question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This wasn’t UC Davis students behaving this way.

It was basically new front on the Antifa-Proud Boys clashes in Portland and Charlottesville.

Kirk and his disgusting ilk choose college campuses to provoke incidents like this. The Proud Boys, who are a criminal organization that hates America and all that it stands for, are largely responsible for the violence.

https://katu.com/news/nation-world/suspected-antifa-members-accused-of-vandalizing-calif-university-in-protest-of-conservative-speaker-charlie-kirk-turning-point-usa-uc-davis

DCUM says Kirk hates America. So why would the Proud Boys protest him?

You are truly all kinds of stupid. Were you dropped on your head multiple times as a child?

Cute. Insulting the pp. But, you didn't answer the question.

Proud Boys are aligned with Kirk, not protesting him. They are there to fight the patriots in the Antifa movement.

Kirk and the Proud Boys are anti-American white supremacists and fascists. They are on the same side. And you know this.

You are not nearly as clever as you think.

[Anonymous]

If you make excuses for or try and downplay Jan 6th, you lose all right to say anything about this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This liberal thinks that anyone who caused damage to property or person should be prosecuted. See how easy that is?

"Trump says Russia is not a threat, our greatest threat is our American representatives, we need to reevaluate the purpose of NATO, and most of the people in the State Dept, DOD and Intel Services need to be fired so he can put the right people in."

You stand with this you are no longer an American

Given Kirk yeah you are clearly a Russian troll. Move along. Leave the US.

[Anonymous]

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https://www.foxnews.com/us/elon-musk-respond-protesters-smash-windows-hurl-eggs-charlie-kirk-event-college-campus.amp

About 100 protesters at the University of California, Davis, surrounded a venue attempting to disrupt an event Tuesday evening headlined by conservative personality and Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk. The event was organized by the school’s Turning Point chapter.

The protesters, who were mostly wearing black, clashed with law enforcement officers and other students, including attendees of the event, as they smashed windows, hurled eggs, used pepper spray and blocked people from entering the University Credit Union Center, where the event was held.

Gosh I hope the liberal intelligencia condemns this protest with the same fervor they have others.

One officer sustained an injury when he was jumped on from behind and pushed to the ground, and two people were arrested and taken to Yolo County Jail for allegedly painting graffiti on an exterior wall of the University Credit Union Center, or UCUC

The cowards of course covered their faces as much as possible. Isn’t the point of college to be have your beliefs challenged and at least allow others to be heard? Shameful.

Naw, not Charlie Kirk. I mean, I guess it would be better to have no reaction and let him speak to an empty room or something but Kirk is an enemy of the state who has actively worked to undermine American democracy. So it makes sense that democracy-loving patriots would make their feelings known about his presence. He’s a vile piece of shit who no one would cry for if he dropped dead today of an aneurysm.

"Democracy-loving patriots" who spray graffiti, break windows, jump police officers, throw eggs and other objects, block entrances, and pepper spray others? You have a very interesting definition of "democracy-loving patriots."
DP

You people just love oversimplifying, muddling and conflating. The people who smashed windows and sprayed graffiti are not "democrats." They are black bloc anarchocommunists. Democrats believe in government and institutions, anarchocommunists do not.

They are widely divergent on most issues, and only have a handful in common, for example they both oppose fascism.

So where are the Democrats condemning this behavior? All we've seen on this thread are the usual liberal apologists, rationalizing this abhorrent behavior away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/elon-musk-respond-protesters-smash-windows-hurl-eggs-charlie-kirk-event-college-campus.amp

About 100 protesters at the University of California, Davis, surrounded a venue attempting to disrupt an event Tuesday evening headlined by conservative personality and Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk. The event was organized by the school’s Turning Point chapter.

The protesters, who were mostly wearing black, clashed with law enforcement officers and other students, including attendees of the event, as they smashed windows, hurled eggs, used pepper spray and blocked people from entering the University Credit Union Center, where the event was held.

Gosh I hope the liberal intelligencia condemns this protest with the same fervor they have others.

One officer sustained an injury when he was jumped on from behind and pushed to the ground, and two people were arrested and taken to Yolo County Jail for allegedly painting graffiti on an exterior wall of the University Credit Union Center, or UCUC

The cowards of course covered their faces as much as possible. Isn’t the point of college to be have your beliefs challenged and at least allow others to be heard? Shameful.

Why? It's their right to protest. Whether you like it, or the issue, or not. Just like it's the right of MAGA idiots to stand on the corner disrupting my commute with their idiotic "stop the steal." I didn't like it but it is their right.

Once again - is it their right to jump LEOs, pepper spray others, break windows, vandalize, graffiti, block entrances, throw eggs and other projectiles? The irony of someone like you calling others "idiots" is just astounding.
DP

Funny that you mention pepper spray. Isn't UC Davis the school where the campus cop casually pepper sprayed a row of peaceful students while they were sitting down?

Yes - and he was subsequently fired for doing so (over 12 years ago, btw). You have no point. In this case, it was the protesters who were spraying pepper spray. They should face repercussions as well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Two people arrested. Not affiliated with the university. In other words, not students. The premise of the post is wrong.

Understand that people like Charlie Kirk are not thought leaders. They are provocateurs. And it’s not students who react this way to them, it tends to be the Antifa types who clash regularly with the America-hating right-wing.

No, the title is not at all wrong.

First of all, I have read that one of the protesters arrested were not affiliated with the school. The other person's identity has not been confirmed.
They were still out of control. Nobody was arrested for breaking windows or throwing eggs. The arrests were because of graffiti painted on a building.
And, if we want to talk about who exactly is "America-hating," I would say those who are preventing freedom of speech and assembly are guilty of this.

He was free to speak. They were free to protest. Kirk’s message is fundamentally anti-American. The end. But nongovernment threatened his free speech rights.

You act like all speech is valid. Charlie Kirk’s speech isn’t valid. He still gave it and there were consequences for it since most people think he is a vile person.

Free speech doesn’t mean you’re owed a platform and a channel to say what you want unchallenged.

Protest all you want. The minute you start throwing projectiles, vandalizing, and using pepper spray, you are committing crimes. You seem unable to grasp the difference, which tells us all we need to know. Free speech doesn't mean you get to decide what's "valid."
DP