Out of control college snowflakes at UC-Davis

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was not free speech

January 6 was two years ago. Every Republican I know was appalled by the behavior, we and they are so tired of the what aboutism that seems to occur every time anti free speech activists act like this or worse.

We absolutely should allow hate speech. Hate speech is a term thrown around by others to put down ANY speech they disagree with!

The bolded above is completely false. Most Republicans are still trying to whitewash, deny and deflect from it rather than owning up to it and accepting responsibility.

There are plenty of people appalled by both Jan 6 and the behavior of the UC Davis students. I don’t understand why you insist on linking them. Violent protests are not okay, period.

[Anonymous]

Two people arrested. Not affiliated with the university. In other words, not students. The premise of the post is wrong.

Understand that people like Charlie Kirk are not thought leaders. They are provocateurs. And it’s not students who react this way to them, it tends to be the Antifa types who clash regularly with the America-hating right-wing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was not free speech

January 6 was two years ago. Every Republican I know was appalled by the behavior, we and they are so tired of the what aboutism that seems to occur every time anti free speech activists act like this or worse.

We absolutely should allow hate speech. Hate speech is a term thrown around by others to put down ANY speech they disagree with!

The bolded above is completely false. Most Republicans are still trying to whitewash, deny and deflect from it rather than owning up to it and accepting responsibility.

Not at all.

What we are saying is that there is not equal justice when it comes to those entering the Capitol on that day.
There are far too many people who have been over charged for just entering the Capitol - trespassing - and not committing any violence or destruction.
They are receiving sentences that are much lengthy than rioters during the summer of 2020 that set buildings ablaze and were quite violent during the "mostly peaceful protests."
Or, people who have raped or attacked others ON VIDEO.

The vast majority of people arrested did nothing more than trespass. That - my dear - is a fact.

You are correct that the two events are not comparable. Protestors at BLM weren’t trying to overthrow the government and destroy democracy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was not free speech

January 6 was two years ago. Every Republican I know was appalled by the behavior, we and they are so tired of the what aboutism that seems to occur every time anti free speech activists act like this or worse.

We absolutely should allow hate speech. Hate speech is a term thrown around by others to put down ANY speech they disagree with!

The bolded above is completely false. Most Republicans are still trying to whitewash, deny and deflect from it rather than owning up to it and accepting responsibility.

Not at all.

What we are saying is that there is not equal justice when it comes to those entering the Capitol on that day.
There are far too many people who have been over charged for just entering the Capitol - trespassing - and not committing any violence or destruction.
They are receiving sentences that are much lengthy than rioters during the summer of 2020 that set buildings ablaze and were quite violent during the "mostly peaceful protests."
Or, people who have raped or attacked others ON VIDEO.

The vast majority of people arrested did nothing more than trespass. That - my dear - is a fact.

You are correct that the two events are not comparable. Protestors at BLM weren’t trying to overthrow the government and destroy democracy.

Really? Trying to burn down courthouses and taking over police stations is not trying to overthrow the government?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was not free speech

January 6 was two years ago. Every Republican I know was appalled by the behavior, we and they are so tired of the what aboutism that seems to occur every time anti free speech activists act like this or worse.

We absolutely should allow hate speech. Hate speech is a term thrown around by others to put down ANY speech they disagree with!

The bolded above is completely false. Most Republicans are still trying to whitewash, deny and deflect from it rather than owning up to it and accepting responsibility.

Not at all.

What we are saying is that there is not equal justice when it comes to those entering the Capitol on that day.
There are far too many people who have been over charged for just entering the Capitol - trespassing - and not committing any violence or destruction.
They are receiving sentences that are much lengthy than rioters during the summer of 2020 that set buildings ablaze and were quite violent during the "mostly peaceful protests."
Or, people who have raped or attacked others ON VIDEO.

The vast majority of people arrested did nothing more than trespass. That - my dear - is a fact.

You are correct that the two events are not comparable. Protestors at BLM weren’t trying to overthrow the government and destroy democracy.

Really? Trying to burn down courthouses and taking over police stations is not trying to overthrow the government?

There you go again trying to stupidly conflate the 93% of BLM protesters who were peaceful and non-violent with the 7% who were violent anarchocommunists, far right accelerationists, criminal gangs, and other factions who had their own agendas separate from BLM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was not free speech

January 6 was two years ago. Every Republican I know was appalled by the behavior, we and they are so tired of the what aboutism that seems to occur every time anti free speech activists act like this or worse.

We absolutely should allow hate speech. Hate speech is a term thrown around by others to put down ANY speech they disagree with!

The bolded above is completely false. Most Republicans are still trying to whitewash, deny and deflect from it rather than owning up to it and accepting responsibility.

Not at all.

What we are saying is that there is not equal justice when it comes to those entering the Capitol on that day.
There are far too many people who have been over charged for just entering the Capitol - trespassing - and not committing any violence or destruction.
They are receiving sentences that are much lengthy than rioters during the summer of 2020 that set buildings ablaze and were quite violent during the "mostly peaceful protests."
Or, people who have raped or attacked others ON VIDEO.

The vast majority of people arrested did nothing more than trespass. That - my dear - is a fact.

You are correct that the two events are not comparable. Protestors at BLM weren’t trying to overthrow the government and destroy democracy.

Really? Trying to burn down courthouses and taking over police stations is not trying to overthrow the government?

Correct. Do you really not understand the difference or are you being obtuse?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was not free speech

January 6 was two years ago. Every Republican I know was appalled by the behavior, we and they are so tired of the what aboutism that seems to occur every time anti free speech activists act like this or worse.

We absolutely should allow hate speech. Hate speech is a term thrown around by others to put down ANY speech they disagree with!

The bolded above is completely false. Most Republicans are still trying to whitewash, deny and deflect from it rather than owning up to it and accepting responsibility.

Not at all.

What we are saying is that there is not equal justice when it comes to those entering the Capitol on that day.
There are far too many people who have been over charged for just entering the Capitol - trespassing - and not committing any violence or destruction.
They are receiving sentences that are much lengthy than rioters during the summer of 2020 that set buildings ablaze and were quite violent during the "mostly peaceful protests."
Or, people who have raped or attacked others ON VIDEO.

The vast majority of people arrested did nothing more than trespass. That - my dear - is a fact.

You're either lying or being lied to. Out of the thousands who marched on the Capitol there were well over 800 people illegally entered the Capitol and trespassed on January 6th. Of those 800 who trespassed, the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of them got off with no charges whatsoever.

Of the 800 who trespassed, only a small handful are actually being detained and prosecuted - those being the ones who were at the vanguard, the ones who were at the front of the group and in high profile, smashing their way in, assaulting officers, making specific threats, vandalizing Capitol spaces, stealing items and so on.

You forgot dropping trou and defecting in the Rotunda

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was not free speech

January 6 was two years ago. Every Republican I know was appalled by the behavior, we and they are so tired of the what aboutism that seems to occur every time anti free speech activists act like this or worse.

We absolutely should allow hate speech. Hate speech is a term thrown around by others to put down ANY speech they disagree with!

The bolded above is completely false. Most Republicans are still trying to whitewash, deny and deflect from it rather than owning up to it and accepting responsibility.

There are plenty of people appalled by both Jan 6 and the behavior of the UC Davis students. I don’t understand why you insist on linking them. Violent protests are not okay, period.

There is not even remotely enough of a "plenty" in the GOP for it to mean anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Two people arrested. Not affiliated with the university. In other words, not students. The premise of the post is wrong.

Understand that people like Charlie Kirk are not thought leaders. They are provocateurs. And it’s not students who react this way to them, it tends to be the Antifa types who clash regularly with the America-hating right-wing.

No, the title is not at all wrong.

First of all, I have read that one of the protesters arrested were not affiliated with the school. The other person's identity has not been confirmed.
They were still out of control. Nobody was arrested for breaking windows or throwing eggs. The arrests were because of graffiti painted on a building.
And, if we want to talk about who exactly is "America-hating," I would say those who are preventing freedom of speech and assembly are guilty of this.

[Anonymous]

This wasn’t UC Davis students behaving this way.

It was basically new front on the Antifa-Proud Boys clashes in Portland and Charlottesville.

Kirk and his disgusting ilk choose college campuses to provoke incidents like this. The Proud Boys, who are a criminal organization that hates America and all that it stands for, are largely responsible for the violence.

https://katu.com/news/nation-world/suspected-antifa-members-accused-of-vandalizing-calif-university-in-protest-of-conservative-speaker-charlie-kirk-turning-point-usa-uc-davis

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two people arrested. Not affiliated with the university. In other words, not students. The premise of the post is wrong.

Understand that people like Charlie Kirk are not thought leaders. They are provocateurs. And it’s not students who react this way to them, it tends to be the Antifa types who clash regularly with the America-hating right-wing.

No, the title is not at all wrong.

First of all, I have read that one of the protesters arrested were not affiliated with the school. The other person's identity has not been confirmed.
They were still out of control. Nobody was arrested for breaking windows or throwing eggs. The arrests were because of graffiti painted on a building.
And, if we want to talk about who exactly is "America-hating," I would say those who are preventing freedom of speech and assembly are guilty of this.

The title implies affiliation with the college. If you want to talk about embracing freedom of speech, talk to me about conservative responses to drag queen story time

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two people arrested. Not affiliated with the university. In other words, not students. The premise of the post is wrong.

Understand that people like Charlie Kirk are not thought leaders. They are provocateurs. And it’s not students who react this way to them, it tends to be the Antifa types who clash regularly with the America-hating right-wing.

No, the title is not at all wrong.

First of all, I have read that one of the protesters arrested were not affiliated with the school. The other person's identity has not been confirmed.
They were still out of control. Nobody was arrested for breaking windows or throwing eggs. The arrests were because of graffiti painted on a building.
And, if we want to talk about who exactly is "America-hating," I would say those who are preventing freedom of speech and assembly are guilty of this.

He was free to speak. They were free to protest. Kirk’s message is fundamentally anti-American. The end. But nongovernment threatened his free speech rights.

You act like all speech is valid. Charlie Kirk’s speech isn’t valid. He still gave it and there were consequences for it since most people think he is a vile person.

Free speech doesn’t mean you’re owed a platform and a channel to say what you want unchallenged.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was not free speech

January 6 was two years ago. Every Republican I know was appalled by the behavior, we and they are so tired of the what aboutism that seems to occur every time anti free speech activists act like this or worse.

We absolutely should allow hate speech. Hate speech is a term thrown around by others to put down ANY speech they disagree with!

The bolded above is completely false. Most Republicans are still trying to whitewash, deny and deflect from it rather than owning up to it and accepting responsibility.

Not at all.

What we are saying is that there is not equal justice when it comes to those entering the Capitol on that day.
There are far too many people who have been over charged for just entering the Capitol - trespassing - and not committing any violence or destruction.
They are receiving sentences that are much lengthy than rioters during the summer of 2020 that set buildings ablaze and were quite violent during the "mostly peaceful protests."
Or, people who have raped or attacked others ON VIDEO.

The vast majority of people arrested did nothing more than trespass. That - my dear - is a fact.

You're either lying or being lied to. Out of the thousands who marched on the Capitol there were well over 800 people illegally entered the Capitol and trespassed on January 6th. Of those 800 who trespassed, the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of them got off with no charges whatsoever.

Of the 800 who trespassed, only a small handful are actually being detained and prosecuted - those being the ones who were at the vanguard, the ones who were at the front of the group and in high profile, smashing their way in, assaulting officers, making specific threats, vandalizing Capitol spaces, stealing items and so on.

You are ignorant of what is happening.

Here is one case - there are many more like this.
Daniel Goodwyn. Was in the Capitol for less than a minute. He left when he was told to. He entered around 3:20 and didn't realize he was not allowed to.
He has spent a month in jail & a year on home confinement pre-trial.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/elon-musk-respond-protesters-smash-windows-hurl-eggs-charlie-kirk-event-college-campus.amp

About 100 protesters at the University of California, Davis, surrounded a venue attempting to disrupt an event Tuesday evening headlined by conservative personality and Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk. The event was organized by the school’s Turning Point chapter.

The protesters, who were mostly wearing black, clashed with law enforcement officers and other students, including attendees of the event, as they smashed windows, hurled eggs, used pepper spray and blocked people from entering the University Credit Union Center, where the event was held.

Gosh I hope the liberal intelligencia condemns this protest with the same fervor they have others.

One officer sustained an injury when he was jumped on from behind and pushed to the ground, and two people were arrested and taken to Yolo County Jail for allegedly painting graffiti on an exterior wall of the University Credit Union Center, or UCUC

The cowards of course covered their faces as much as possible. Isn’t the point of college to be have your beliefs challenged and at least allow others to be heard? Shameful.

Why? It's their right to protest. Whether you like it, or the issue, or not. Just like it's the right of MAGA idiots to stand on the corner disrupting my commute with their idiotic "stop the steal." I didn't like it but it is their right.

Once again - is it their right to jump LEOs, pepper spray others, break windows, vandalize, graffiti, block entrances, throw eggs and other projectiles? The irony of someone like you calling others "idiots" is just astounding.
DP

Funny that you mention pepper spray. Isn't UC Davis the school where the campus cop casually pepper sprayed a row of peaceful students while they were sitting down?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two people arrested. Not affiliated with the university. In other words, not students. The premise of the post is wrong.

Understand that people like Charlie Kirk are not thought leaders. They are provocateurs. And it’s not students who react this way to them, it tends to be the Antifa types who clash regularly with the America-hating right-wing.

No, the title is not at all wrong.

First of all, I have read that one of the protesters arrested were not affiliated with the school. The other person's identity has not been confirmed.
They were still out of control. Nobody was arrested for breaking windows or throwing eggs. The arrests were because of graffiti painted on a building.
And, if we want to talk about who exactly is "America-hating," I would say those who are preventing freedom of speech and assembly are guilty of this.

He was free to speak. They were free to protest. Kirk’s message is fundamentally anti-American. The end. But nongovernment threatened his free speech rights.

You act like all speech is valid. Charlie Kirk’s speech isn’t valid. He still gave it and there were consequences for it since most people think he is a vile person.

Free speech doesn’t mean you’re owed a platform and a channel to say what you want unchallenged.

Tell us how Kirk's message is "UnAmerican." Be specific.

When student protests include blocking entrances, breaking windows, throwing eggs...... no, my dear. This is not promoting freedom of speech.