Earl B Middle school homophobic club?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s so embarrassing but at least for once, administration jumped into action. Let’s hope all 3 kids are expelled.

https://wjla.com/amp/news/crisis-in-the-classrooms/hate-bias-incident-intolerance-montgomery-county-public-schools-principal-heidi-l-slatcoff-earle-b-wood-middle-school-students-accused-of-trying-to-create-a-homophobic-club-hub

You’re pretty sad. Calling for the ritual sacrifice of some middle school kids being contrarian jerks. It’s like calling for capital punishment against a toddler that won’t share. Grow up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s so embarrassing but at least for once, administration jumped into action. Let’s hope all 3 kids are expelled.

https://wjla.com/amp/news/crisis-in-the-classrooms/hate-bias-incident-intolerance-montgomery-county-public-schools-principal-heidi-l-slatcoff-earle-b-wood-middle-school-students-accused-of-trying-to-create-a-homophobic-club-hub

You’re pretty sad. Calling for the ritual sacrifice of some middle school kids being contrarian jerks. It’s like calling for capital punishment against a toddler that won’t share. Grow up.

We have had kids at Wood majorly vandalizing the bathrooms. Pulling up toilet seats, pulling the soap and paper towel dispensers off the walls. Even this kids haven’t been suspended. Kids certainly are not suspended for vaping or dealing drugs at Wood MS.

This was clearly an over-reaction when the school has much bigger problems.

[Anonymous]

What that child wrote was hateful, but was it a hate crime? I don’t think so.

People have commented that it’s a miss use of the school Chromebook well, let me tell you kids do a lot worse than that. But the police isn’t and shouldn’t be called. That should be dealt with at the school level.

MCPS and Earl seem to be dealing with a drug and bullying and fighting problem. Just browse through the most recent topics on this forum. The police is not called.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What that child wrote was hateful, but was it a hate crime? I don’t think so.

People have commented that it’s a miss use of the school Chromebook well, let me tell you kids do a lot worse than that. But the police isn’t and shouldn’t be called. That should be dealt with at the school level.

MCPS and Earl seem to be dealing with a drug and bullying and fighting problem. Just browse through the most recent topics on this forum. The police is not called.

No, it was not a hate crime. It was essentially a ‘thought crime’ like someone else posted above.

It’s like we live in China or something.

And misuse of Chromebooks? I guess. But I know plenty of kids at Wood are looking at porn on their school-issued Chromebooks and there doesn’t seem to be much the school can do about that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wood parent here. Mrs Slatcoff isn’t perfect but I would much rather she overreacted than to sweep it under the rug and try to hide the situation from the parents and students. And I assure you that the kids are talking about it and the message that this behavior is serious and will not be tolerated has come across loud and clear.

Having said that, there is still a lot of work to do at Wood on bullying issues, many of them racial in nature. I hope she comes down on those issues the way she has on this one. I think this incidence has shed a lot of light on many issues that entire community needs to openly address and I hope she is the one starting the conversation.

Problem here is the principal is sending the message that the actual crimes like fighting and underage smoking/vaping won’t be dealt with and kids know it, but thought crimes- oh dear no you can’t do that- send in the COPS NOW! Unleash the dogs. Teach those kids they can’t write a word and delete it without police involvement, but they can beat the crap out of each other on a regular basis or smoke daily in the bathroom but that’s ok.

Do you really not see that as a problem?

Who said they are beating the crap out of each other and smoking in the bathrooms? I said there was some bullying issues but it’s not like kids are getting into fistfights daily.

At Wood? Yes, there are a good number of fights.

What middle school do your kids attend?

There are fights at every school and knowing the MC police, they are not required to be called. It is for the school to decide. If you want the police notified for all fights, they would be at every middle school at least 2-3x a week. That is why they need an SRO at every middle school. But that isn't going to happen.

Memo down from administration is to call police on all hate crimes. Let the police decide. Otherwise principals sweep everything under the rug. She did her job and now the police will do theirs.

Do you even know what a “hate crime” is? It’s not hateful speech. It has to be an actual crime *motivated* by bias. There might not even be any hateful words said (although you’d need evidence of the intent). If MCPS is telling principals to report offensive speech to the POLICE as a hate crime, that’s pretty disturbing. And almost certainly would (if fairly applied) result in many many POC getting reported to the police.

How about administration and police know more about what is going on, what they saw, and the 3 people involved than you do.

But keep putting your 2 cents in

If there was a crime here, it would have been in the letter. The complete silence as to any actual harm caused to an actual person leads me to believe there was no harm, so no crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What that child wrote was hateful, but was it a hate crime? I don’t think so.

People have commented that it’s a miss use of the school Chromebook well, let me tell you kids do a lot worse than that. But the police isn’t and shouldn’t be called. That should be dealt with at the school level.

MCPS and Earl seem to be dealing with a drug and bullying and fighting problem. Just browse through the most recent topics on this forum. The police is not called.

No, it was not a hate crime. It was essentially a ‘thought crime’ like someone else posted above.

It’s like we live in China or something.

And misuse of Chromebooks? I guess. But I know plenty of kids at Wood are looking at porn on their school-issued Chromebooks and there doesn’t seem to be much the school can do about that.

Porn is what I was referring to. I don’t know how they access it, but I know they do.

If we’re talking crimes, drugs, even marijuana, is still illegal in a crime. Police don’t get called over that either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wood parent here. Mrs Slatcoff isn’t perfect but I would much rather she overreacted than to sweep it under the rug and try to hide the situation from the parents and students. And I assure you that the kids are talking about it and the message that this behavior is serious and will not be tolerated has come across loud and clear.

Having said that, there is still a lot of work to do at Wood on bullying issues, many of them racial in nature. I hope she comes down on those issues the way she has on this one. I think this incidence has shed a lot of light on many issues that entire community needs to openly address and I hope she is the one starting the conversation.

Problem here is the principal is sending the message that the actual crimes like fighting and underage smoking/vaping won’t be dealt with and kids know it, but thought crimes- oh dear no you can’t do that- send in the COPS NOW! Unleash the dogs. Teach those kids they can’t write a word and delete it without police involvement, but they can beat the crap out of each other on a regular basis or smoke daily in the bathroom but that’s ok.

Do you really not see that as a problem?

Who said they are beating the crap out of each other and smoking in the bathrooms? I said there was some bullying issues but it’s not like kids are getting into fistfights daily.

At Wood? Yes, there are a good number of fights.

What middle school do your kids attend?

There are fights at every school and knowing the MC police, they are not required to be called. It is for the school to decide. If you want the police notified for all fights, they would be at every middle school at least 2-3x a week. That is why they need an SRO at every middle school. But that isn't going to happen.

Memo down from administration is to call police on all hate crimes. Let the police decide. Otherwise principals sweep everything under the rug. She did her job and now the police will do theirs.

Do you even know what a “hate crime” is? It’s not hateful speech. It has to be an actual crime *motivated* by bias. There might not even be any hateful words said (although you’d need evidence of the intent). If MCPS is telling principals to report offensive speech to the POLICE as a hate crime, that’s pretty disturbing. And almost certainly would (if fairly applied) result in many many POC getting reported to the police.

How about administration and police know more about what is going on, what they saw, and the 3 people involved than you do.

But keep putting your 2 cents in

If there was a crime here, it would have been in the letter. The complete silence as to any actual harm caused to an actual person leads me to believe there was no harm, so no crime.

There was no crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What that child wrote was hateful, but was it a hate crime? I don’t think so.

People have commented that it’s a miss use of the school Chromebook well, let me tell you kids do a lot worse than that. But the police isn’t and shouldn’t be called. That should be dealt with at the school level.

MCPS and Earl seem to be dealing with a drug and bullying and fighting problem. Just browse through the most recent topics on this forum. The police is not called.

No, it was not a hate crime. It was essentially a ‘thought crime’ like someone else posted above.

It’s like we live in China or something.

And misuse of Chromebooks? I guess. But I know plenty of kids at Wood are looking at porn on their school-issued Chromebooks and there doesn’t seem to be much the school can do about that.

Porn is what I was referring to. I don’t know how they access it, but I know they do.

If we’re talking crimes, drugs, even marijuana, is still illegal in a crime. Police don’t get called over that either.

The kids absolutely access porn on their school-issued Chromebooks. Not just at Wood, I’m sure it happens at all MCPS middle schools. Apparently that never warrants attention or consequences. But this incident deserved police-involvement. So strange.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wood parent here. Mrs Slatcoff isn’t perfect but I would much rather she overreacted than to sweep it under the rug and try to hide the situation from the parents and students. And I assure you that the kids are talking about it and the message that this behavior is serious and will not be tolerated has come across loud and clear.

Having said that, there is still a lot of work to do at Wood on bullying issues, many of them racial in nature. I hope she comes down on those issues the way she has on this one. I think this incidence has shed a lot of light on many issues that entire community needs to openly address and I hope she is the one starting the conversation.

Problem here is the principal is sending the message that the actual crimes like fighting and underage smoking/vaping won’t be dealt with and kids know it, but thought crimes- oh dear no you can’t do that- send in the COPS NOW! Unleash the dogs. Teach those kids they can’t write a word and delete it without police involvement, but they can beat the crap out of each other on a regular basis or smoke daily in the bathroom but that’s ok.

Do you really not see that as a problem?

Who said they are beating the crap out of each other and smoking in the bathrooms? I said there was some bullying issues but it’s not like kids are getting into fistfights daily.

At Wood? Yes, there are a good number of fights.

What middle school do your kids attend?

There are fights at every school and knowing the MC police, they are not required to be called. It is for the school to decide. If you want the police notified for all fights, they would be at every middle school at least 2-3x a week. That is why they need an SRO at every middle school. But that isn't going to happen.

Memo down from administration is to call police on all hate crimes. Let the police decide. Otherwise principals sweep everything under the rug. She did her job and now the police will do theirs.

Do you even know what a “hate crime” is? It’s not hateful speech. It has to be an actual crime *motivated* by bias. There might not even be any hateful words said (although you’d need evidence of the intent). If MCPS is telling principals to report offensive speech to the POLICE as a hate crime, that’s pretty disturbing. And almost certainly would (if fairly applied) result in many many POC getting reported to the police.

How about administration and police know more about what is going on, what they saw, and the 3 people involved than you do.

But keep putting your 2 cents in

If there was a crime here, it would have been in the letter. The complete silence as to any actual harm caused to an actual person leads me to believe there was no harm, so no crime.

There was no crime.

I can guarantee you that there are kids openly calling other kids “f*ggot” at this school. Are they all being reported to the police?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wood parent here. Mrs Slatcoff isn’t perfect but I would much rather she overreacted than to sweep it under the rug and try to hide the situation from the parents and students. And I assure you that the kids are talking about it and the message that this behavior is serious and will not be tolerated has come across loud and clear.

Having said that, there is still a lot of work to do at Wood on bullying issues, many of them racial in nature. I hope she comes down on those issues the way she has on this one. I think this incidence has shed a lot of light on many issues that entire community needs to openly address and I hope she is the one starting the conversation.

Problem here is the principal is sending the message that the actual crimes like fighting and underage smoking/vaping won’t be dealt with and kids know it, but thought crimes- oh dear no you can’t do that- send in the COPS NOW! Unleash the dogs. Teach those kids they can’t write a word and delete it without police involvement, but they can beat the crap out of each other on a regular basis or smoke daily in the bathroom but that’s ok.

Do you really not see that as a problem?

Who said they are beating the crap out of each other and smoking in the bathrooms? I said there was some bullying issues but it’s not like kids are getting into fistfights daily.

At Wood? Yes, there are a good number of fights.

What middle school do your kids attend?

There are fights at every school and knowing the MC police, they are not required to be called. It is for the school to decide. If you want the police notified for all fights, they would be at every middle school at least 2-3x a week. That is why they need an SRO at every middle school. But that isn't going to happen.

Memo down from administration is to call police on all hate crimes. Let the police decide. Otherwise principals sweep everything under the rug. She did her job and now the police will do theirs.

Do you even know what a “hate crime” is? It’s not hateful speech. It has to be an actual crime *motivated* by bias. There might not even be any hateful words said (although you’d need evidence of the intent). If MCPS is telling principals to report offensive speech to the POLICE as a hate crime, that’s pretty disturbing. And almost certainly would (if fairly applied) result in many many POC getting reported to the police.

How about administration and police know more about what is going on, what they saw, and the 3 people involved than you do.

But keep putting your 2 cents in

If there was a crime here, it would have been in the letter. The complete silence as to any actual harm caused to an actual person leads me to believe there was no harm, so no crime.

There was no crime.

I can guarantee you that there are kids openly calling other kids “f*ggot” at this school. Are they all being reported to the police?

No, never. And the N word gets thrown around (not just by Black kids, but by plenty of Asian and Brown kids also). Not reported to police (to be clear, I don’t think it should be reported to the police). This was a huge over-reaction.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:[b]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wood parent here. Mrs Slatcoff isn’t perfect but I would much rather she overreacted than to sweep it under the rug and try to hide the situation from the parents and students. And I assure you that the kids are talking about it and the message that this behavior is serious and will not be tolerated has come across loud and clear.

Having said that, there is still a lot of work to do at Wood on bullying issues, many of them racial in nature. I hope she comes down on those issues the way she has on this one. I think this incidence has shed a lot of light on many issues that entire community needs to openly address and I hope she is the one starting the conversation.

Problem here is the principal is sending the message that the actual crimes like fighting and underage smoking/vaping won’t be dealt with and kids know it, but thought crimes- oh dear no you can’t do that- send in the COPS NOW! Unleash the dogs. Teach those kids they can’t write a word and delete it without police involvement, but they can beat the crap out of each other on a regular basis or smoke daily in the bathroom but that’s ok.

Do you really not see that as a problem?

Who said they are beating the crap out of each other and smoking in the bathrooms? I said there was some bullying issues but it’s not like kids are getting into fistfights daily.

At Wood? Yes, there are a good number of fights.

What middle school do your kids attend?

There are fights at every school and knowing the MC police, they are not required to be called. It is for the school to decide. If you want the police notified for all fights, they would be at every middle school at least 2-3x a week. That is why they need an SRO at every middle school. But that isn't going to happen.

Memo down from administration is to call police on all hate crimes. Let the police decide. Otherwise principals sweep everything under the rug. She did her job and now the police will do theirs.

This right here. If the fight is a couple of attempted thrown fists, police aren't going to be called. Hate speech, hate drawings etc... immediately go to police. If she didn't contact the police and a parent found out and complained, central would have been all over here for not doing the right thing. I am shocked how many people think this is no big deal. that is scary. It's 2023, not 1973.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[b]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wood parent here. Mrs Slatcoff isn’t perfect but I would much rather she overreacted than to sweep it under the rug and try to hide the situation from the parents and students. And I assure you that the kids are talking about it and the message that this behavior is serious and will not be tolerated has come across loud and clear.

Having said that, there is still a lot of work to do at Wood on bullying issues, many of them racial in nature. I hope she comes down on those issues the way she has on this one. I think this incidence has shed a lot of light on many issues that entire community needs to openly address and I hope she is the one starting the conversation.

Problem here is the principal is sending the message that the actual crimes like fighting and underage smoking/vaping won’t be dealt with and kids know it, but thought crimes- oh dear no you can’t do that- send in the COPS NOW! Unleash the dogs. Teach those kids they can’t write a word and delete it without police involvement, but they can beat the crap out of each other on a regular basis or smoke daily in the bathroom but that’s ok.

Do you really not see that as a problem?

Who said they are beating the crap out of each other and smoking in the bathrooms? I said there was some bullying issues but it’s not like kids are getting into fistfights daily.

At Wood? Yes, there are a good number of fights.

What middle school do your kids attend?

There are fights at every school and knowing the MC police, they are not required to be called. It is for the school to decide. If you want the police notified for all fights, they would be at every middle school at least 2-3x a week. That is why they need an SRO at every middle school. But that isn't going to happen.

Memo down from administration is to call police on all hate crimes. Let the police decide. Otherwise principals sweep everything under the rug. She did her job and now the police will do theirs.

This right here. If the fight is a couple of attempted thrown fists, police aren't going to be called. Hate speech, hate drawings etc... immediately go to police. If she didn't contact the police and a parent found out and complained, central would have been all over here for not doing the right thing. I am shocked how many people think this is no big deal. that is scary. It's 2023, not 1973.

It’s not 1984 either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What that child wrote was hateful, but was it a hate crime? I don’t think so.

People have commented that it’s a miss use of the school Chromebook well, let me tell you kids do a lot worse than that. But the police isn’t and shouldn’t be called. That should be dealt with at the school level.

MCPS and Earl seem to be dealing with a drug and bullying and fighting problem. Just browse through the most recent topics on this forum. The police is not called.

No, it was not a hate crime. It was essentially a ‘thought crime’ like someone else posted above.

It’s like we live in China or something.

And misuse of Chromebooks? I guess. But I know plenty of kids at Wood are looking at porn on their school-issued Chromebooks and there doesn’t seem to be much the school can do about that.

Umm, looking at porn isn't hate speech towards others in your school.

[Anonymous]

Never realized how homophobic my kid's middle school was until this letter came out. I actually thought moving to Rockville was a liberal safe area. It seems most of the parents are supportive in person, but here on this board - a lot of hate. Maybe it is just the same conservative person?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wood parent here. Mrs Slatcoff isn’t perfect but I would much rather she overreacted than to sweep it under the rug and try to hide the situation from the parents and students. And I assure you that the kids are talking about it and the message that this behavior is serious and will not be tolerated has come across loud and clear.

Having said that, there is still a lot of work to do at Wood on bullying issues, many of them racial in nature. I hope she comes down on those issues the way she has on this one. I think this incidence has shed a lot of light on many issues that entire community needs to openly address and I hope she is the one starting the conversation.

Problem here is the principal is sending the message that the actual crimes like fighting and underage smoking/vaping won’t be dealt with and kids know it, but thought crimes- oh dear no you can’t do that- send in the COPS NOW! Unleash the dogs. Teach those kids they can’t write a word and delete it without police involvement, but they can beat the crap out of each other on a regular basis or smoke daily in the bathroom but that’s ok.

Do you really not see that as a problem?

Who said they are beating the crap out of each other and smoking in the bathrooms? I said there was some bullying issues but it’s not like kids are getting into fistfights daily.

At Wood? Yes, there are a good number of fights.

What middle school do your kids attend?

There are fights at every school and knowing the MC police, they are not required to be called. It is for the school to decide. If you want the police notified for all fights, they would be at every middle school at least 2-3x a week. That is why they need an SRO at every middle school. But that isn't going to happen.

Memo down from administration is to call police on all hate crimes. Let the police decide. Otherwise principals sweep everything under the rug. She did her job and now the police will do theirs.

This right here. If the fight is a couple of attempted thrown fists, police aren't going to be called. Hate speech, hate drawings etc... immediately go to police. If she didn't contact the police and a parent found out and complained, central would have been all over here for not doing the right thing. I am shocked how many people think this is no big deal. that is scary. It's 2023, not 1973.

So minors accessing porn on school computer is no big deal, but a tween declaring themselves to be homophobic warrants a call to the police? You know that it’s within the tween’s right to be homophobic, yes? Feelings are not illegal, no matter what you think of them.