Teacher shot at Newport News elementary school

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Why are they suppressing how the kid got the gun?

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they suppressing how the kid got the gun?

I would like to know this, too. It's not like a 6 year old can buy a ghost gun or break into a non-relative's house and steal a gun. If there were several adults living with the child and it belonged to a relative, there may be some debate about who to charge.

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Anonymous wrote:This was just posted on Reddit. Unfortunately none of it comes as a surprise:

The kid in question was transferred from another school last year for supposedly strangling his teacher (in kindergarten). Since the first day of school he has had issues where hes been allowed to run rampent in the school. It got to the point where he was in trouble so often that his mom would have to walk him to the room each morning.
The day it happened the principal and them were notified that he had brought a gun to school numerous times and rumors spread about the same. They didnt do a thing about it. They said it was likely just a toy. No search, no pulling him out, nothing.
After the shooting happened a staff member called the cops because one of the other students recognized it as a gun shot. The lockdown didnt happen until well after the call had been placed. During the lockdown there wasnt a single message sent to all staff via email or text, most were left stranded in their rooms hiding with the kids for 45+ min. Its not clear to me how it happened but another member of staff was able to prevent the kid from doing anything further.
During the debriefing after no information was given about the teacher's condition or exacts about the situation. The school board and all the admins did show up for the photo op and show of support tho.
The teacher is doing decently enough for everything considered and the investigation is underway.
Huge shoutout to the Newport News PD, they showed up and responded in what seemed like record time and with everyone in the department (as well as a few other agencies).
I can verify my identity if need be but I am the spouse of an employee that was there. This was posted on a throwaway account on a vpn to prevent getting doxxed or anything from the district or anyone else.

So this kid is a sociopath.

I know that some people think that’s impossible- but I assure you, some people are born this way.

Some of them become high functioning sociopaths. But other- really can’t be saved.

Why we keep forcing our public schools to take them is beyond me. Teachers are not paid enough for this.

+1. So messed up. This kid will never be a contributing member of society or worth any amount of effort. Lock him away for life

As an aside, this is why it is worth every penny to move into a good school district. It is never worth the risks to send your kid to an underserved or developing school. So many parents complain about lack of diversity in some schools but I’ll take that lack of diversity any day of the week

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The kids are full of rage - younger and younger.

And for good reason, but it doesn't justify this.

da fuq?

There is NO reason to be this full of rage at any age, let alone 6.

Says a privileged person who always has food and shelter, never experienced abuse, has never been raped as a small child . . . There are plenty of kids who are failed by adults and the system.

Amazing how this "rage" never seems to occur in girls who have been abused, bullied, experienced trauma, etc. It's not an experience thing, and it has everything to do with awry biology.

the first school shooter was in 1979 and was a girl

Yep, and almost every school shooter since then has been a girl.

Oh wait, no.

Well definitely most school shooters have been girls.

Oh wait, no.

A lot of school shooters have been girls.

Oh wait, no.

Some school shooters have been girls.

Hardly.

98% of them are males. Fact.

Oh but like 2-3 in all of history have had XX chromosomes so yeah good for you for bringing up this absurd detail from 1979.

School violence has nothing to do with childhood experience, having been bullied, family home life, etc. Because OVERWHELMINGLY this is a male problem, and female students who experience the same just don't cause this kind of carnage.

Perhaps find out who exactly was the primary “caregiver” for the boy, and then come back.

And if you want to believe a child’s environment has nothing to do with the development of inner rage, you are beyond hope.

That's the thing - some people are beyond hope, possibly this kid - unfortunately this tendency exists much, much, much more so in boys.

Of course a child's environment affects them and inner anger. But the external rage manifested outwards... that's genetics. Again, girls don't do this - or do so exceedingly rarely, even with the exact same traumatic upbringing.

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I'm not ready to accept what some random person on Reddit posts as truth. I hope to god that is just something someone made up. Time will tell.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not ready to accept what some random person on Reddit posts as truth. I hope to god that is just something someone made up. Time will tell.

they can totally bury this story He is a juvenile

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Anonymous wrote:This was just posted on Reddit. Unfortunately none of it comes as a surprise:

The kid in question was transferred from another school last year for supposedly strangling his teacher (in kindergarten). Since the first day of school he has had issues where hes been allowed to run rampent in the school. It got to the point where he was in trouble so often that his mom would have to walk him to the room each morning.
The day it happened the principal and them were notified that he had brought a gun to school numerous times and rumors spread about the same. They didnt do a thing about it. They said it was likely just a toy. No search, no pulling him out, nothing.
After the shooting happened a staff member called the cops because one of the other students recognized it as a gun shot. The lockdown didnt happen until well after the call had been placed. During the lockdown there wasnt a single message sent to all staff via email or text, most were left stranded in their rooms hiding with the kids for 45+ min. Its not clear to me how it happened but another member of staff was able to prevent the kid from doing anything further.
During the debriefing after no information was given about the teacher's condition or exacts about the situation. The school board and all the admins did show up for the photo op and show of support tho.
The teacher is doing decently enough for everything considered and the investigation is underway.
Huge shoutout to the Newport News PD, they showed up and responded in what seemed like record time and with everyone in the department (as well as a few other agencies).
I can verify my identity if need be but I am the spouse of an employee that was there. This was posted on a throwaway account on a vpn to prevent getting doxxed or anything from the district or anyone else.

Damn.

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Anonymous wrote:This was just posted on Reddit. Unfortunately none of it comes as a surprise:

The kid in question was transferred from another school last year for supposedly strangling his teacher (in kindergarten). Since the first day of school he has had issues where hes been allowed to run rampent in the school. It got to the point where he was in trouble so often that his mom would have to walk him to the room each morning.
The day it happened the principal and them were notified that he had brought a gun to school numerous times and rumors spread about the same. They didnt do a thing about it. They said it was likely just a toy. No search, no pulling him out, nothing.
After the shooting happened a staff member called the cops because one of the other students recognized it as a gun shot. The lockdown didnt happen until well after the call had been placed. During the lockdown there wasnt a single message sent to all staff via email or text, most were left stranded in their rooms hiding with the kids for 45+ min. Its not clear to me how it happened but another member of staff was able to prevent the kid from doing anything further.
During the debriefing after no information was given about the teacher's condition or exacts about the situation. The school board and all the admins did show up for the photo op and show of support tho.
The teacher is doing decently enough for everything considered and the investigation is underway.
Huge shoutout to the Newport News PD, they showed up and responded in what seemed like record time and with everyone in the department (as well as a few other agencies).
I can verify my identity if need be but I am the spouse of an employee that was there. This was posted on a throwaway account on a vpn to prevent getting doxxed or anything from the district or anyone else.

So this kid is a sociopath.

I know that some people think that’s impossible- but I assure you, some people are born this way.

Some of them become high functioning sociopaths. But other- really can’t be saved.

Why we keep forcing our public schools to take them is beyond me. Teachers are not paid enough for this.

+1. So messed up. This kid will never be a contributing member of society or worth any amount of effort. Lock him away for life

As an aside, this is why it is worth every penny to move into a good school district. It is never worth the risks to send your kid to an underserved or developing school. So many parents complain about lack of diversity in some schools but I’ll take that lack of diversity any day of the week

Yep. There’s never been a white UMC school shooter

Columbine comes to mind.

Anyhow- I do think that even the high income areas have issues with sociopaths. Think the LCPS kid who r$&@ed a girl, then got silently moved to another school and r@p3d another.

The point is: it’s not just therapy or parents. We really need a mechanism to get these kids out of our public schools. The trauma inflected on every other child isn’t worth it.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m at the point where I feel children and teens who shoot people must go through intensive therapy AND their parents serve time. Parents need to be held accountable!

Even if they’re mentally ill?

Yes.

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Abby Zwerner, 25 yrs old. This is the teacher who was shot. This was not accidental shooting. This kid will grow up to do more killing.

Thank God that this is a cute, young, pretty, White and well liked teacher, because that will go a long way in minimizing victim blaming. Can you imagine if it was some other teacher who did not elicit this kind of sympathy?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m at the point where I feel children and teens who shoot people must go through intensive therapy AND their parents serve time. Parents need to be held accountable!

Even if they’re mentally ill?

Yes. The fact that someone is mentally ill does not excuse your liability if that person gets ahold of one of your guns.

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Abby Zwerner, 25 yrs old. This is the teacher who was shot. This was not accidental shooting. This kid will grow up to do more killing.

Thank God that this is a cute, young, pretty, White and well liked teacher, because that will go a long way in minimizing victim blaming. Can you imagine if it was some other teacher who did not elicit this kind of sympathy?

Pshh they'll still find a way to blame the teacher. Watch.

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It is surprising that none of the victim's family members have turned vigilante.

I always wonder - what if there is some Liam Neeson kind of dad, whose kid got harmed in this way? Would anyone be left standing? NRA heads? School administrators? Shooter? Shooter's enablers? GOP leaders?

Gun violence is not going to stop in US. All I want is some supremely capable people to get justice so that we can get our popcorn out and sit back and watch a different kind of show across USA that puts the fear of God in the souls of these degenerates.

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Anonymous wrote:This was just posted on Reddit. Unfortunately none of it comes as a surprise:

The kid in question was transferred from another school last year for supposedly strangling his teacher (in kindergarten). Since the first day of school he has had issues where hes been allowed to run rampent in the school. It got to the point where he was in trouble so often that his mom would have to walk him to the room each morning.
The day it happened the principal and them were notified that he had brought a gun to school numerous times and rumors spread about the same. They didnt do a thing about it. They said it was likely just a toy. No search, no pulling him out, nothing.
After the shooting happened a staff member called the cops because one of the other students recognized it as a gun shot. The lockdown didnt happen until well after the call had been placed. During the lockdown there wasnt a single message sent to all staff via email or text, most were left stranded in their rooms hiding with the kids for 45+ min. Its not clear to me how it happened but another member of staff was able to prevent the kid from doing anything further.
During the debriefing after no information was given about the teacher's condition or exacts about the situation. The school board and all the admins did show up for the photo op and show of support tho.
The teacher is doing decently enough for everything considered and the investigation is underway.
Huge shoutout to the Newport News PD, they showed up and responded in what seemed like record time and with everyone in the department (as well as a few other agencies).
I can verify my identity if need be but I am the spouse of an employee that was there. This was posted on a throwaway account on a vpn to prevent getting doxxed or anything from the district or anyone else.

Damn.

Doesn’t surprise me at all. You could tell me the admin had been there 15 years or 1 and neither would surprise me. Elementary schools — even the ones with well off families — are completely unprepared for anything like this. Any kid can easily get a gun in any school without a metal detector. And even then. The administration at this school should be criminally charged for ignoring a report of a gun. Period. It isn’t fair to teachers to work under such incompetence or disregard for safety.

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Anonymous wrote:We need to have mandatory really long minimum prison sentences for gun crimes at the federal level, including for parents who provide gun access to minors.

Nothing in the constitution to say that there can’t be really harsh consequences when someone’s weapons are used in a crime.

I think that’s the first step towards gun control.

too bad Dems are lowering penalties for gun crimes and often drop charges all together

too bad Rs want to allow anyone to carry a gun

No. "Rs" don't want felons to carry a gun. "Ds" are apparently just fine with it.

Now we know you’re lying. R’s are against gun restrictions and background checks. A background check would reveal if someone was a felon and you’re trying to say R’s don’t want felons to carry a gun? Spare us from your bull.

The guys spraying bullets around in the hood are not buying their guns in stores, and neither did this 6 year old.

Restrictions at point of sale are not going to do anything to stop this type of violence.

We need to come down really hard on anyone who uses a gun unlawfully or enables through negligence someone else to use the gun unlawfully. Life in prison. No DAs looking the other way, no soft judges.

Rs will be okay with it because it just affects criminals and won’t stop people from owning a gun as the constitution says.