Teacher shot at Newport News elementary school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Public school administrators haven’t done much of anything to hold violent kids (or their parents) accountable.

Their hands are somewhat tied by DOE directives and laws.

That isn't usually the problem. The problem is often the school admin. I have worked with families who are literally begging the school for more support (for example a 1:1 aide or counseling services) for safety reasons, but the school admin still denies it.

signed,
A special ed attorney

I don’t know. Seems like we hear many stories where kids have to be evacuated from a classroom because a violent kid if aggressively tearing it apart and the schools can’t do anything except evacuate the class because the parents of the offender refuse to allow the school to change placements. I do agree that sometimes the schools are at fault but usually seems a bit of a stretch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Public school administrators haven’t done much of anything to hold violent kids (or their parents) accountable.

Their hands are somewhat tied by DOE directives and laws.

That isn't usually the problem. The problem is often the school admin. I have worked with families who are literally begging the school for more support (for example a 1:1 aide or counseling services) for safety reasons, but the school admin still denies it.

signed,
A special ed attorney

I don’t know. Seems like we hear many stories where kids have to be evacuated from a classroom because a violent kid if aggressively tearing it apart and the schools can’t do anything except evacuate the class because the parents of the offender refuse to allow the school to change placements. I do agree that sometimes the schools are at fault but usually seems a bit of a stretch.

In my school parents fight it way more than they beg for it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It looks like the next court date is April 30.

Thank you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Public school administrators haven’t done much of anything to hold violent kids (or their parents) accountable.

Their hands are somewhat tied by DOE directives and laws.

Can we put pressure on the DOE to change these?

What DOE? The DOE is a shell of an agency now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Public school administrators haven’t done much of anything to hold violent kids (or their parents) accountable.

Their hands are somewhat tied by DOE directives and laws.

That isn't usually the problem. The problem is often the school admin. I have worked with families who are literally begging the school for more support (for example a 1:1 aide or counseling services) for safety reasons, but the school admin still denies it.

signed,
A special ed attorney

I don’t know. Seems like we hear many stories where kids have to be evacuated from a classroom because a violent kid if aggressively tearing it apart and the schools can’t do anything except evacuate the class because the parents of the offender refuse to allow the school to change placements. I do agree that sometimes the schools are at fault but usually seems a bit of a stretch.

You hear many stories? Okay. What you are hearing is just speculation. These matters are confidential.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Public school administrators haven’t done much of anything to hold violent kids (or their parents) accountable.

Their hands are somewhat tied by DOE directives and laws.

That isn't usually the problem. The problem is often the school admin. I have worked with families who are literally begging the school for more support (for example a 1:1 aide or counseling services) for safety reasons, but the school admin still denies it.

signed,
A special ed attorney

OK, yes, but… In many cases, the administrators just don’t have anything to give. They can’t invent counselors out of thin air or modify staffing levels that the district refuses to change.

Fair enough but again the problem is not the laws or the Dept of Ed or the parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Public school administrators haven’t done much of anything to hold violent kids (or their parents) accountable.

Their hands are somewhat tied by DOE directives and laws.

That isn't usually the problem. The problem is often the school admin. I have worked with families who are literally begging the school for more support (for example a 1:1 aide or counseling services) for safety reasons, but the school admin still denies it.

signed,
A special ed attorney

I don’t know. Seems like we hear many stories where kids have to be evacuated from a classroom because a violent kid if aggressively tearing it apart and the schools can’t do anything except evacuate the class because the parents of the offender refuse to allow the school to change placements. I do agree that sometimes the schools are at fault but usually seems a bit of a stretch.

You hear many stories? Okay. What you are hearing is just speculation. These matters are confidential.

You know that kids who get evacuated talk about it right? Just because certain people are barred from releasing information doesn’t mean the information doesn’t get out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Public school administrators haven’t done much of anything to hold violent kids (or their parents) accountable.

Their hands are somewhat tied by DOE directives and laws.

That isn't usually the problem. The problem is often the school admin. I have worked with families who are literally begging the school for more support (for example a 1:1 aide or counseling services) for safety reasons, but the school admin still denies it.

signed,
A special ed attorney

OK, yes, but… In many cases, the administrators just don’t have anything to give. They can’t invent counselors out of thin air or modify staffing levels that the district refuses to change.

Fair enough but again the problem is not the laws or the Dept of Ed or the parents.

Fair point as well, in many cases. But would you agree that the LRE regulations from the Department of Ed, at least while we have one, tie admin’s hands?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Public school administrators haven’t done much of anything to hold violent kids (or their parents) accountable.

Their hands are somewhat tied by DOE directives and laws.

That isn't usually the problem. The problem is often the school admin. I have worked with families who are literally begging the school for more support (for example a 1:1 aide or counseling services) for safety reasons, but the school admin still denies it.

signed,
A special ed attorney

I don’t know. Seems like we hear many stories where kids have to be evacuated from a classroom because a violent kid if aggressively tearing it apart and the schools can’t do anything except evacuate the class because the parents of the offender refuse to allow the school to change placements. I do agree that sometimes the schools are at fault but usually seems a bit of a stretch.

You hear many stories? Okay. What you are hearing is just speculation. These matters are confidential.

Confidential? If you think middle schoolers and high schoolers don't share with their parents and then parents share with friends, you are most naive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Public school administrators haven’t done much of anything to hold violent kids (or their parents) accountable.

Their hands are somewhat tied by DOE directives and laws.

That isn't usually the problem. The problem is often the school admin. I have worked with families who are literally begging the school for more support (for example a 1:1 aide or counseling services) for safety reasons, but the school admin still denies it.

signed,
A special ed attorney

I don’t know. Seems like we hear many stories where kids have to be evacuated from a classroom because a violent kid if aggressively tearing it apart and the schools can’t do anything except evacuate the class because the parents of the offender refuse to allow the school to change placements. I do agree that sometimes the schools are at fault but usually seems a bit of a stretch.

You hear many stories? Okay. What you are hearing is just speculation. These matters are confidential.

Confidential? If you think middle schoolers and high schoolers don't share with their parents and then parents share with friends, you are most naive.

Every school, and I mean EVERY school, is evacuating classrooms at least some of the time. EVERY SINGLE ONE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Public school administrators haven’t done much of anything to hold violent kids (or their parents) accountable.

Their hands are somewhat tied by DOE directives and laws.

That isn't usually the problem. The problem is often the school admin. I have worked with families who are literally begging the school for more support (for example a 1:1 aide or counseling services) for safety reasons, but the school admin still denies it.

signed,
A special ed attorney

OK, yes, but… In many cases, the administrators just don’t have anything to give. They can’t invent counselors out of thin air or modify staffing levels that the district refuses to change.

Fair enough but again the problem is not the laws or the Dept of Ed or the parents.

Fair point as well, in many cases. But would you agree that the LRE regulations from the Department of Ed, at least while we have one, tie admin’s hands?

LRE has been an unmitigated, unqualified disaster. It never should have happened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Public school administrators haven’t done much of anything to hold violent kids (or their parents) accountable.

Their hands are somewhat tied by DOE directives and laws.

That isn't usually the problem. The problem is often the school admin. I have worked with families who are literally begging the school for more support (for example a 1:1 aide or counseling services) for safety reasons, but the school admin still denies it.

signed,
A special ed attorney

I don’t know. Seems like we hear many stories where kids have to be evacuated from a classroom because a violent kid if aggressively tearing it apart and the schools can’t do anything except evacuate the class because the parents of the offender refuse to allow the school to change placements. I do agree that sometimes the schools are at fault but usually seems a bit of a stretch.

You hear many stories? Okay. What you are hearing is just speculation. These matters are confidential.

Confidential? If you think middle schoolers and high schoolers don't share with their parents and then parents share with friends, you are most naive.

+1. Also subs tend to come from within the community and have big mouths. The pay is crap and the fear of losing your job is NBD because you are practically working for free anyway. I sub just to see the truth about things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Public school administrators haven’t done much of anything to hold violent kids (or their parents) accountable.

Their hands are somewhat tied by DOE directives and laws.

That isn't usually the problem. The problem is often the school admin. I have worked with families who are literally begging the school for more support (for example a 1:1 aide or counseling services) for safety reasons, but the school admin still denies it.

signed,
A special ed attorney

I don’t know. Seems like we hear many stories where kids have to be evacuated from a classroom because a violent kid if aggressively tearing it apart and the schools can’t do anything except evacuate the class because the parents of the offender refuse to allow the school to change placements. I do agree that sometimes the schools are at fault but usually seems a bit of a stretch.

You hear many stories? Okay. What you are hearing is just speculation. These matters are confidential.

Confidential? If you think middle schoolers and high schoolers don't share with their parents and then parents share with friends, you are most naive.

+1. Also subs tend to come from within the community and have big mouths. The pay is crap and the fear of losing your job is NBD because you are practically working for free anyway. I sub just to see the truth about things.

+1 most definitely

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It looks like the next court date is April 30.

Has anyone seen an update?

[Anonymous]

They have to reschedule it because Zwerner is recovering from her fifth surgery and not available to testify: https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/newport-news/trial-for-assistant-principal-in-richneck-es-shooting-to-be-rescheduled/