WaPo: Virginia will block schools from accommodating transgender students

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a moderate Democrat who supports this. Those of you who are up in arms about this policy are either blind at what is going on in our middle and high schools with an overwhelming number of kids claiming to be trans or non-binary or are brainwashed by the far left. These issues are pushing people to vote for people like Youngkin. Rather than call us transphobes, why not listen to our concerns? The left has no idea what’s going to hit them with a red wave if they go on like this.

Yeah and who cares? If 9th graders want to go by a different name and wear shapeless sweatshirts, what difference does it make? It’s either a phase, in which case humor them and get on with our lives, or it’s not a phase, in which case it’s important to take it seriously.

I want to know if my 13 year old gets a tattoo or has sex or takes drugs. I do not want the school protecting my daughter from me by hiding any references to this information.

You think your child’s school is keeping track of who has sex or gets a tattoo? You have no clue!

Yes some of these parents sound completely unhinged and really ill prepared for dealing with the late teen years when your children are pulling away and getting ready to launch into adulthood. My advice start preparing yourselves for the inevitable as early as the first day of Kindergarten. Each year brings a lessening of your complete and total control and influence.

You can’t stop it, if you think you can or should then become one of those crazy fundy homeschoolers. Well adjusted adults don’t have time to worry or care about such nonsense.

Well adjusted adults should, upon request, be able to find out if Sally is going by Sam.

This has taken normal rebellion and made it it entirely different

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The issue is not telling the parents when they ask.

If I ask what my child is called in school, I should be told. . that's all this does

It does lots of things besides this.

It prevents you from asking for your child to be called something different without going through a legal name change.

It collects data on kids who express gender difference, a group that can be easily targeted.

It prevents schools from providing other options for students who feel uncomfortable, or make other feel uncomfortable in the bathroom associated with their sex assigned at birth.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a moderate Democrat who supports this. Those of you who are up in arms about this policy are either blind at what is going on in our middle and high schools with an overwhelming number of kids claiming to be trans or non-binary or are brainwashed by the far left. These issues are pushing people to vote for people like Youngkin. Rather than call us transphobes, why not listen to our concerns? The left has no idea what’s going to hit them with a red wave if they go on like this.

Yeah and who cares? If 9th graders want to go by a different name and wear shapeless sweatshirts, what difference does it make? It’s either a phase, in which case humor them and get on with our lives, or it’s not a phase, in which case it’s important to take it seriously.

I want to know if my 13 year old gets a tattoo or has sex or takes drugs. I do not want the school protecting my daughter from me by hiding any references to this information.

You think your child’s school is keeping track of who has sex or gets a tattoo? You have no clue!

Yes some of these parents sound completely unhinged and really ill prepared for dealing with the late teen years when your children are pulling away and getting ready to launch into adulthood. My advice start preparing yourselves for the inevitable as early as the first day of Kindergarten. Each year brings a lessening of your complete and total control and influence.

You can’t stop it, if you think you can or should then become one of those crazy fundy homeschoolers. Well adjusted adults don’t have time to worry or care about such nonsense.

Well adjusted adults should, upon request, be able to find out if Sally is going by Sam.

This has taken normal rebellion and made it it entirely different

If you have a good relationship with your kid, and your kid knows you aren't transphobic, why can't you ask your kid whether they go by Sam?

Also, it has nothing to do with the parents asking.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a moderate Democrat who supports this. Those of you who are up in arms about this policy are either blind at what is going on in our middle and high schools with an overwhelming number of kids claiming to be trans or non-binary or are brainwashed by the far left. These issues are pushing people to vote for people like Youngkin. Rather than call us transphobes, why not listen to our concerns? The left has no idea what’s going to hit them with a red wave if they go on like this.

Yeah and who cares? If 9th graders want to go by a different name and wear shapeless sweatshirts, what difference does it make? It’s either a phase, in which case humor them and get on with our lives, or it’s not a phase, in which case it’s important to take it seriously.

I want to know if my 13 year old gets a tattoo or has sex or takes drugs. I do not want the school protecting my daughter from me by hiding any references to this information.

You think your child’s school is keeping track of who has sex or gets a tattoo? You have no clue!

Yes some of these parents sound completely unhinged and really ill prepared for dealing with the late teen years when your children are pulling away and getting ready to launch into adulthood. My advice start preparing yourselves for the inevitable as early as the first day of Kindergarten. Each year brings a lessening of your complete and total control and influence.

You can’t stop it, if you think you can or should then become one of those crazy fundy homeschoolers. Well adjusted adults don’t have time to worry or care about such nonsense.

Well adjusted adults should, upon request, be able to find out if Sally is going by Sam.

This has taken normal rebellion and made it it entirely different

If you have a good relationship with your kid, and your kid knows you aren't transphobic, why can't you ask your kid whether they go by Sam?

Also, it has nothing to do with the parents asking.

Agree, if you have a good, caring and accepting relationship with your kid they will come to you with their major issues, including gender identity. If you preach conservative, close minded and judgmental values then they are hiding from you for a reason. This is a you issue, not a school issue.

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Anonymous wrote:I generally like youngkin and his education initiatives. This is bad move on his part.

Youngkin is a race-baiter. In Virginia, home of Brown vs Board of Education. Anyone who likes his “education initiatives” should be ashamed of themselves.

Um, Virginia is not the home of Brown v. Board of Education.

Wow. I didn’t realize that Richmond blocked Arlington from integrating back in 1956.

VA conservatives have a long history of being total POSs.

Bet you also didn’t know that Virginia had the only county in the US tk close its schools for 5 years instead of integrating.

VA has an extremely racist past. People don’t realize how “southern” VA really is 🤷‍♀️

And it’s rearing its ugly head again.

Again? Your funny. Try it never stopped. VA is a big state. NOVA is just a part of it and actually in terms of land mass, it's a small part of it.

Policies like these just bring out crazies like on this thread which in turn I think just makes it harder for kids who are transgender. Are you supporting their rights or are you just being ranting because you want to and can?

Maybe policies like these add more legitimacy. They create a way for a parent to say yes, this is my child, take them seriously when they tell you to use this name or a particular pronoun do it , or let them use a bathroom.

I am tired of these type of discussions and issues wasting so much time. So much wasted time for a teeny tiny minority of students vs the overall number of students and adult hysteria vs. actual real situations. Imagine if we put as much effort into actually worrying about education.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The issue is not telling the parents when they ask.

If I ask what my child is called in school, I should be told. . that's all this does

It does lots of things besides this.

It prevents you from asking for your child to be called something different without going through a legal name change.

It collects data on kids who express gender difference, a group that can be easily targeted.

It prevents schools from providing other options for students who feel uncomfortable, or make other feel uncomfortable in the bathroom associated with their sex assigned at birth.

Not collecting this information means that anyone can say anything about the large or small number of children who express gender difference. More information is almost always better than less information, for all sides of an issue.

[Anonymous]

I think it’s okay and good (in many cases) for parents to be involved in their kids’ gender decisions at school. I had thought most parents were involved, even if it wasn’t required. Many trans kids have made it this far with their parents support and counseling. That’s what I have seen happening in our own school. This will most endanger the kids who do not have that parental support, but I guess I can also understand the parent pov that they don’t want their minor child changing genders (in name, not physically) without their knowledge.

But if you’re going to do this, and require parental knowledge, how can you also allow the deadnaming and require kids to use the bathrooms for gender assigned at birth? Once you have parental support, should t your then need to follow through and recognize the change? That seems especially wrong and cruel.

[Anonymous]

One of the things I learned when I started teaching is that there are a certain number of things you have to be willing to be fired for. It’s relatively easy to commit to that because of strong union rules and credential portability.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a moderate Democrat who supports this. Those of you who are up in arms about this policy are either blind at what is going on in our middle and high schools with an overwhelming number of kids claiming to be trans or non-binary or are brainwashed by the far left. These issues are pushing people to vote for people like Youngkin. Rather than call us transphobes, why not listen to our concerns? The left has no idea what’s going to hit them with a red wave if they go on like this.

Yeah and who cares? If 9th graders want to go by a different name and wear shapeless sweatshirts, what difference does it make? It’s either a phase, in which case humor them and get on with our lives, or it’s not a phase, in which case it’s important to take it seriously.

I want to know if my 13 year old gets a tattoo or has sex or takes drugs. I do not want the school protecting my daughter from me by hiding any references to this information.

You think your child’s school is keeping track of who has sex or gets a tattoo? You have no clue!

Yes some of these parents sound completely unhinged and really ill prepared for dealing with the late teen years when your children are pulling away and getting ready to launch into adulthood. My advice start preparing yourselves for the inevitable as early as the first day of Kindergarten. Each year brings a lessening of your complete and total control and influence.

You can’t stop it, if you think you can or should then become one of those crazy fundy homeschoolers. Well adjusted adults don’t have time to worry or care about such nonsense.

Well adjusted adults should, upon request, be able to find out if Sally is going by Sam.

This has taken normal rebellion and made it it entirely different

If you have a good relationship with your kid, and your kid knows you aren't transphobic, why can't you ask your kid whether they go by Sam?

Also, it has nothing to do with the parents asking.

I am not "transphobic," as you define that silly word, by telling my 14 YO daughter that she is not a boy, and no, she may not dress or pretend to be one. I am her mother. It's called parental guidance. Sorry if that concept eludes you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a moderate Democrat who supports this. Those of you who are up in arms about this policy are either blind at what is going on in our middle and high schools with an overwhelming number of kids claiming to be trans or non-binary or are brainwashed by the far left. These issues are pushing people to vote for people like Youngkin. Rather than call us transphobes, why not listen to our concerns? The left has no idea what’s going to hit them with a red wave if they go on like this.

Yeah and who cares? If 9th graders want to go by a different name and wear shapeless sweatshirts, what difference does it make? It’s either a phase, in which case humor them and get on with our lives, or it’s not a phase, in which case it’s important to take it seriously.

I want to know if my 13 year old gets a tattoo or has sex or takes drugs. I do not want the school protecting my daughter from me by hiding any references to this information.

You think your child’s school is keeping track of who has sex or gets a tattoo? You have no clue!

Yes some of these parents sound completely unhinged and really ill prepared for dealing with the late teen years when your children are pulling away and getting ready to launch into adulthood. My advice start preparing yourselves for the inevitable as early as the first day of Kindergarten. Each year brings a lessening of your complete and total control and influence.

You can’t stop it, if you think you can or should then become one of those crazy fundy homeschoolers. Well adjusted adults don’t have time to worry or care about such nonsense.

Well adjusted adults should, upon request, be able to find out if Sally is going by Sam.

This has taken normal rebellion and made it it entirely different

If you have a good relationship with your kid, and your kid knows you aren't transphobic, why can't you ask your kid whether they go by Sam?

Also, it has nothing to do with the parents asking.

I am not "transphobic," as you define that silly word, by telling my 14 YO daughter that she is not a boy, and no, she may not dress or pretend to be one. I am her mother. It's called parental guidance. Sorry if that concept eludes you.

You seem at least a little transphobic. If your kid has felt like this and you haven’t explored it and don’t understand it but are just rejecting it, that’s transphobic, basically.

[Anonymous]

Remember in the old days how bad parents reacted when their kids told them they were gay? Don’t do that with a trans kid. It’s the same prejudice. I hope this helps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One of the things I learned when I started teaching is that there are a certain number of things you have to be willing to be fired for. It’s relatively easy to commit to that because of strong union rules and credential portability.

Virginia doesn’t have strong unions but it’s still worth getting fired over

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Anonymous wrote:This is wonderful news!

You can at least take comfort knowing you’ll have plenty of company when you’re roasting eternally in Hell

There’s no hell, sweetie.

Woke parents are fanning the flames of gender identity. It’s like the battle of who can be the wokest. I know a mom and all her kids are trans, a statistical impossibility.

Unless there’s a genetic factor.

It’s getting hot in here. Must be all of the bigots.

Oh please. A "genetic factor?" Like, they all have a crazy mother?

Adrenal insensitivity comes to mind.

Really? The kids are different biological sexes but now have switched genders.

There could be a shared genetic disposition that is expressed with some shared environmental factors. Endocrine disrupters in the water supply or food chain. We don’t know.

We have family friends with 4+ transgender teens/young adults in the extended family as well as three gay adults (including family matriarch).

Or, some could just be participating in the fad of the times - adolescents who know nothing about what's "normal" for themselves or for anyone else, and seeing and knowing friends and family members who really are trans or whatever, exploring or choosing a different pathway....at least for now. Yes, there are genuine differences among people; but what you know and see and grow-up in is a huge influence - not just genetic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a moderate Democrat who supports this. Those of you who are up in arms about this policy are either blind at what is going on in our middle and high schools with an overwhelming number of kids claiming to be trans or non-binary or are brainwashed by the far left. These issues are pushing people to vote for people like Youngkin. Rather than call us transphobes, why not listen to our concerns? The left has no idea what’s going to hit them with a red wave if they go on like this.

Newsflash: you are not a moderate Democrat.

Newsflash: yes they are...I'm another one. Far left Dems, especially Arlington Dems like to believe anyone slightly right of their far left views is not a Democrat.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a moderate Democrat who supports this. Those of you who are up in arms about this policy are either blind at what is going on in our middle and high schools with an overwhelming number of kids claiming to be trans or non-binary or are brainwashed by the far left. These issues are pushing people to vote for people like Youngkin. Rather than call us transphobes, why not listen to our concerns? The left has no idea what’s going to hit them with a red wave if they go on like this.

Newsflash: you are not a moderate Democrat.

Right? What a joke!

The idea that you think it’s ok for school to change a child’s gender behind the parent’s back is NOT a moderate position.

FGS - the SCHOOL is NOT changing the child's gender. The CHILD is, or is experimenting, or just wants to try something different, or just wants to be called something else. The CHILD is initiating it - not the frickin' school!