WaPo: Virginia will block schools from accommodating transgender students

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Anonymous wrote:This is wonderful news!

NO IS NOT. IT COST $0 TO RESPECT EVERY STUDENT!!!
CANT WAIT FOR THE PROTEST

That's right. Thank you for caring about respecting my two daughters, who do not want to have to deal with males in their restrooms and locker rooms, and on their sports teams.

I just want to know if my daughter is telling everyone else she's a son except me

Then have a respectful, supportive, loving conversation with your daughter and ASK HER!

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Anonymous wrote:I don't agree with all these policies, but the notion that telling parents that their child is experiencing a gender identity crisis and wants to adopt a new gender identity is cruelly "outing the child" can also be interpreted as "not allowing the school to make major life decisions affecting a minor without parental knowledge." Which is a bad thing... If my boy decides to be a girl at school (or vice versa), and the school wants to go along with it, as a parent I not only *should* know about it before the school "transitions" my kid, but I should *have the right to know about it.* The only exception I can see is if the school has a genuine reason to believe that revealing this information would put the child in danger, and by danger I don't mean "parent will be resistant to the gender change" but abuse and the like.

This. I have a right to know what’s going on at school. That’s all the legislation says, fundamentally.

You really think schools have the resources to update all parents on each student’s personal life? Some large public schools are so crowded they can’t possibly keep track of each child’s sexuality/gender identity. How do you suggest the info would be tracked and reported? Why can’t you figure out yourself what’s going on in your own child’s life?

Our high school is the size of a small college, with over 4,000 enrolled. No way can this be prioritized over everything else teachers and admin are managing already on a daily basis.

Any paperwork involving a change with the child should include the parents. These are situations where the school is actively hiding information from a parent.

It's totally fine for my daughter to change her name. It's disturbing that this gets hidden. Parents don't even have a chance.

The student is not completing any paperwork here. But if you want all the parents to be included in all the paper homework assignments, ok - hold the parents accountable to being involved in all of their kids' paperwork.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a moderate Democrat who supports this. Those of you who are up in arms about this policy are either blind at what is going on in our middle and high schools with an overwhelming number of kids claiming to be trans or non-binary or are brainwashed by the far left. These issues are pushing people to vote for people like Youngkin. Rather than call us transphobes, why not listen to our concerns? The left has no idea what’s going to hit them with a red wave if they go on like this.

Yeah and who cares? If 9th graders want to go by a different name and wear shapeless sweatshirts, what difference does it make? It’s either a phase, in which case humor them and get on with our lives, or it’s not a phase, in which case it’s important to take it seriously.

I want to know if my 13 year old gets a tattoo or has sex or takes drugs. I do not want the school protecting my daughter from me by hiding any references to this information.

You think your child’s school is keeping track of who has sex or gets a tattoo? You have no clue!

No, but let's say she's caught having sex in a bathroom, and gets suspended, and I ask why she is suspended, they shouldn't hide that information because it might embarrass her.
She's a teenager. She needs guidance

And they are going to give you the reason for any suspension. But students aren't going to be suspended because they want to be called a different name or because they declare they're trans. Don't be so obtuse.

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You have to assume that for the most part, the parents who are not on board with their kids changing gender at school are K-6th graders. Like if Hendrix is 6 years old, not 16.

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Anonymous wrote:The issue is not telling the parents when they ask.

If I ask what my child is called in school, I should be told. . that's all this does

Well, that's not really all this policy does.
Nevertheless, I don't think it's on the teacher to find out which kids go by different names without their parents' knowing. If a student asks a teacher to call them something else AND asks them not to tell their parents, then the teacher SHOULD let the child know they will call them by their preferred name; but when talking with their parents, or asked by their parents, they will still use that same name. It shouldn't be on the teacher to remember every time to not slip-up when communicating with the parents.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a moderate Democrat who supports this. Those of you who are up in arms about this policy are either blind at what is going on in our middle and high schools with an overwhelming number of kids claiming to be trans or non-binary or are brainwashed by the far left. These issues are pushing people to vote for people like Youngkin. Rather than call us transphobes, why not listen to our concerns? The left has no idea what’s going to hit them with a red wave if they go on like this.

Yeah and who cares? If 9th graders want to go by a different name and wear shapeless sweatshirts, what difference does it make? It’s either a phase, in which case humor them and get on with our lives, or it’s not a phase, in which case it’s important to take it seriously.

I want to know if my 13 year old gets a tattoo or has sex or takes drugs. I do not want the school protecting my daughter from me by hiding any references to this information.

You think your child’s school is keeping track of who has sex or gets a tattoo? You have no clue!

Yes some of these parents sound completely unhinged and really ill prepared for dealing with the late teen years when your children are pulling away and getting ready to launch into adulthood. My advice start preparing yourselves for the inevitable as early as the first day of Kindergarten. Each year brings a lessening of your complete and total control and influence.

You can’t stop it, if you think you can or should then become one of those crazy fundy homeschoolers. Well adjusted adults don’t have time to worry or care about such nonsense.

Well adjusted adults should, upon request, be able to find out if Sally is going by Sam.

This has taken normal rebellion and made it it entirely different

If you have a good relationship with your kid, and your kid knows you aren't transphobic, why can't you ask your kid whether they go by Sam?

Also, it has nothing to do with the parents asking.

Agree, if you have a good, caring and accepting relationship with your kid they will come to you with their major issues, including gender identity. If you preach conservative, close minded and judgmental values then they are hiding from you for a reason. This is a you issue, not a school issue.

THIS!

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Youngkin’s policy is common sense and aligned with what most parents would welcome. By any measure except the demands of left-wing Democrats and their allies in the public schools it would have been considered progressive not that long ago. The fact that it’s stirring up this much debate speaks volumes about the extent to which the far-left has gotten used to using the public schools as their playground to push gender fluidity on impressionable youths.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a moderate Democrat who supports this. Those of you who are up in arms about this policy are either blind at what is going on in our middle and high schools with an overwhelming number of kids claiming to be trans or non-binary or are brainwashed by the far left. These issues are pushing people to vote for people like Youngkin. Rather than call us transphobes, why not listen to our concerns? The left has no idea what’s going to hit them with a red wave if they go on like this.

Yeah and who cares? If 9th graders want to go by a different name and wear shapeless sweatshirts, what difference does it make? It’s either a phase, in which case humor them and get on with our lives, or it’s not a phase, in which case it’s important to take it seriously.

I want to know if my 13 year old gets a tattoo or has sex or takes drugs. I do not want the school protecting my daughter from me by hiding any references to this information.

You think your child’s school is keeping track of who has sex or gets a tattoo? You have no clue!

Yes some of these parents sound completely unhinged and really ill prepared for dealing with the late teen years when your children are pulling away and getting ready to launch into adulthood. My advice start preparing yourselves for the inevitable as early as the first day of Kindergarten. Each year brings a lessening of your complete and total control and influence.

You can’t stop it, if you think you can or should then become one of those crazy fundy homeschoolers. Well adjusted adults don’t have time to worry or care about such nonsense.

Well adjusted adults should, upon request, be able to find out if Sally is going by Sam.

This has taken normal rebellion and made it it entirely different

If you have a good relationship with your kid, and your kid knows you aren't transphobic, why can't you ask your kid whether they go by Sam?

Also, it has nothing to do with the parents asking.

Agree, if you have a good, caring and accepting relationship with your kid they will come to you with their major issues, including gender identity. If you preach conservative, close minded and judgmental values then they are hiding from you for a reason. This is a you issue, not a school issue.

THIS!

Yes, well, we know that many people are still upset that their children can be exposed to other ideas (evolution, history of slavery, existence of gay people) in public schools. Which is why they vote for religious right wingers like Youngkin, who sent his kids to private religious schools, and is now putting people on staff and policy making boards in VA to make public schools the same way.

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Anonymous wrote:Youngkin’s policy is common sense and aligned with what most parents would welcome. By any measure except the demands of left-wing Democrats and their allies in the public schools it would have been considered progressive not that long ago. The fact that it’s stirring up this much debate speaks volumes about the extent to which the far-left has gotten used to using the public schools as their playground to push gender fluidity on impressionable youths.

No one pushes anything you fool. It’s simply acceptance of kids who were once ostracized.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a moderate Democrat who supports this. Those of you who are up in arms about this policy are either blind at what is going on in our middle and high schools with an overwhelming number of kids claiming to be trans or non-binary or are brainwashed by the far left. These issues are pushing people to vote for people like Youngkin. Rather than call us transphobes, why not listen to our concerns? The left has no idea what’s going to hit them with a red wave if they go on like this.

Yeah and who cares? If 9th graders want to go by a different name and wear shapeless sweatshirts, what difference does it make? It’s either a phase, in which case humor them and get on with our lives, or it’s not a phase, in which case it’s important to take it seriously.

I want to know if my 13 year old gets a tattoo or has sex or takes drugs. I do not want the school protecting my daughter from me by hiding any references to this information.

You think your child’s school is keeping track of who has sex or gets a tattoo? You have no clue!

Yes some of these parents sound completely unhinged and really ill prepared for dealing with the late teen years when your children are pulling away and getting ready to launch into adulthood. My advice start preparing yourselves for the inevitable as early as the first day of Kindergarten. Each year brings a lessening of your complete and total control and influence.

You can’t stop it, if you think you can or should then become one of those crazy fundy homeschoolers. Well adjusted adults don’t have time to worry or care about such nonsense.

Well adjusted adults should, upon request, be able to find out if Sally is going by Sam.

This has taken normal rebellion and made it it entirely different

If you have a good relationship with your kid, and your kid knows you aren't transphobic, why can't you ask your kid whether they go by Sam?

Also, it has nothing to do with the parents asking.

I am not "transphobic," as you define that silly word, by telling my 14 YO daughter that she is not a boy, and no, she may not dress or pretend to be one. I am her mother. It's called parental guidance. Sorry if that concept eludes you.

You seem at least a little transphobic. If your kid has felt like this and you haven’t explored it and don’t understand it but are just rejecting it, that’s transphobic, basically.

So what? I really don't care what label you come up with and want to slap on me. I am a mother, and it is my responsibility to guide and nurture my daughter, as she grows to adulthood and womanhood. Yes, I am "rejecting" a lot of what she comes up with along the way. It's called being a parent.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a moderate Democrat who supports this. Those of you who are up in arms about this policy are either blind at what is going on in our middle and high schools with an overwhelming number of kids claiming to be trans or non-binary or are brainwashed by the far left. These issues are pushing people to vote for people like Youngkin. Rather than call us transphobes, why not listen to our concerns? The left has no idea what’s going to hit them with a red wave if they go on like this.

Yeah and who cares? If 9th graders want to go by a different name and wear shapeless sweatshirts, what difference does it make? It’s either a phase, in which case humor them and get on with our lives, or it’s not a phase, in which case it’s important to take it seriously.

I want to know if my 13 year old gets a tattoo or has sex or takes drugs. I do not want the school protecting my daughter from me by hiding any references to this information.

You think your child’s school is keeping track of who has sex or gets a tattoo? You have no clue!

Yes some of these parents sound completely unhinged and really ill prepared for dealing with the late teen years when your children are pulling away and getting ready to launch into adulthood. My advice start preparing yourselves for the inevitable as early as the first day of Kindergarten. Each year brings a lessening of your complete and total control and influence.

You can’t stop it, if you think you can or should then become one of those crazy fundy homeschoolers. Well adjusted adults don’t have time to worry or care about such nonsense.

Well adjusted adults should, upon request, be able to find out if Sally is going by Sam.

This has taken normal rebellion and made it it entirely different

If you have a good relationship with your kid, and your kid knows you aren't transphobic, why can't you ask your kid whether they go by Sam?

Also, it has nothing to do with the parents asking.

I am not "transphobic," as you define that silly word, by telling my 14 YO daughter that she is not a boy, and no, she may not dress or pretend to be one. I am her mother. It's called parental guidance. Sorry if that concept eludes you.

You seem at least a little transphobic. If your kid has felt like this and you haven’t explored it and don’t understand it but are just rejecting it, that’s transphobic, basically.

So what? I really don't care what label you come up with and want to slap on me. I am a mother, and it is my responsibility to guide and nurture my daughter, as she grows to adulthood and womanhood. Yes, I am "rejecting" a lot of what she comes up with along the way. It's called being a parent.

And when your kid rejects you, remember your part in it.

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Anonymous wrote:The issue is not telling the parents when they ask.

If I ask what my child is called in school, I should be told. . that's all this does

It does lots of things besides this.

It prevents you from asking for your child to be called something different without going through a legal name change.

It collects data on kids who express gender difference, a group that can be easily targeted.

It prevents schools from providing other options for students who feel uncomfortable, or make other feel uncomfortable in the bathroom associated with their sex assigned at birth.



Did you even read it?

https://doe.virginia.gov/support/gender-diversity/2022-model-policies-on-the-privacy-dignity-and-respect-for-all-students-town-hall.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3tWKpjhFCia_8iecD906HN3L83ko3-4cc9QBjEKR4eZtSe85g8HDSrMg8

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Anonymous wrote:This is wonderful news!

NO IS NOT. IT COST $0 TO RESPECT EVERY STUDENT!!!
CANT WAIT FOR THE PROTEST

That's right. Thank you for caring about respecting my two daughters, who do not want to have to deal with males in their restrooms and locker rooms, and on their sports teams.

Just know that this policy means trans males will be in their bathrooms and on their teams.

So? By definition, trans males are really women, so what's the problem with that?

Well, I can only assume that when someone looking like a boy walks out of the girls bathroom you’re going to find a reason to complain.

In fact, WITH this policy, you will have someone looking like a boy coming out of the girls bathrooms

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Anonymous wrote:Youngkin’s policy is common sense and aligned with what most parents would welcome. By any measure except the demands of left-wing Democrats and their allies in the public schools it would have been considered progressive not that long ago. The fact that it’s stirring up this much debate speaks volumes about the extent to which the far-left has gotten used to using the public schools as their playground to push gender fluidity on impressionable youths.

No one pushes anything you fool. It’s simply acceptance of kids who were once ostracized.

NP and I don’t really understand that. Schools and teachers are very accepting. I don’t see how this changes that. We have gender neutral bathrooms in the high school. Parents can still tell the school to change their child’s name. To me, it seems like what is changing is that the student can’t officially change their name on school records without parent permission. Please correct me if I’m interpreting this incorrectly. This isn’t about nicknames, as some are trying to make it.

Personally, if my children changed their name or gender at school I would like to know.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is wonderful news!

NO IS NOT. IT COST $0 TO RESPECT EVERY STUDENT!!!
CANT WAIT FOR THE PROTEST

That's right. Thank you for caring about respecting my two daughters, who do not want to have to deal with males in their restrooms and locker rooms, and on their sports teams.

Just know that this policy means trans males will be in their bathrooms and on their teams.

So? By definition, trans males are really women, so what's the problem with that?

Well, I can only assume that when someone looking like a boy walks out of the girls bathroom you’re going to find a reason to complain.

In fact, WITH this policy, you will have someone looking like a boy coming out of the girls bathrooms

Like many posters, this doesn’t bother me.