The Queen Consort

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hate her.

Diana should be queen

Yup. Camilla doesn't deserve this. She's no Queen Consort to me. She continued to pursue Charles while he was with Diana. He should have stuck it out with the mother of his children for the sake of the crown and Diana would have been exiting that vehicle today. So sad.

I just don’t understand this perspective. Neither Charles nor Diana were in love with each other by the end of their marriage, and they both were miserable and having affairs. So they should have just kept making each other miserable and having affairs because that would be better for the crown? I get it, people loved Diana, but this is advice you would give to no one you care about.

[Anonymous]

I much prefer Camilla, and I’ve never gotten the Diana worship. Yes, she did some good with her AIDS and landmine activism, but all of the Royals have causes they support. But it’s well known that she had a lot of mental problems and was volatile and toxic to live with. She pushed her elderly stepmother down a flight of stairs!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The thing is, if Charles had married Camilla and carried on an affair with Diana, etcetera, no one would have cared. People would be going on about the great love between Charles and Diana that conquered all, and Camilla would be a dead hag.

Diana benefitted immensely from being young and “beautiful”. I personally don’t think she was notably more attractive than Camilla, but the public tends to blindly believe what it is told.

People can go on about adultery and the “people’s princess” until they’re blue in the face, but if the women’s roles were reversed, people would’ve forgotten about Camilla twenty years ago.

It’s all so phony.

I tend to agree with this. Camilla was the older, less conventionally attractive one. THe roles would usually be reversed.

Camilla used to look like a hard faced wet sack 40 years ago. Don’t lie.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We could have got the beautiful Diana as the queen and instead we get ugly betty. UK has the worse luck lately.

What beauty really has to do with being a queen? How would it help you?

The beatification of Diana is based solely on the memory of her youth, style and beauty. No one truly cares about her “good work” photo ops. No one sings Princess Anne’s praises although she is known as the hardest-working royal. I can only think that uneducated women with internalized misogyny participate in this Princess/Ugly Stepmother fairy tale trope. Ageist and sad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We could have got the beautiful Diana as the queen and instead we get ugly betty. UK has the worse luck lately.

What beauty really has to do with being a queen? How would it help you?

The beatification of Diana is based solely on the memory of her youth, style and beauty. No one truly cares about her “good work” photo ops. No one sings Princess Anne’s praises although she is known as the hardest-working royal. I can only think that uneducated women with internalized misogyny participate in this Princess/Ugly Stepmother fairy tale trope. Ageist and sad.

No one sings Anne’s praises because she wants it that way? She banned the press from her engagements in the 80s after it came out her first husband had a child out of wedlock the same age as their daughter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hate her.

Diana should be queen

Yup. Camilla doesn't deserve this. She's no Queen Consort to me. She continued to pursue Charles while he was with Diana. He should have stuck it out with the mother of his children for the sake of the crown and Diana would have been exiting that vehicle today. So sad.

I just don’t understand this perspective. Neither Charles nor Diana were in love with each other by the end of their marriage, and they both were miserable and having affairs. So they should have just kept making each other miserable and having affairs because that would be better for the crown? I get it, people loved Diana, but this is advice you would give to no one you care about.

He never should have married Diana. And when he did he should have stayed faithful. Diana would have lived him til the end.

And not like Camilla has nothing to do with liking Diana. I don’t know anyone who likes the other woman,

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hate her.

Diana should be queen

Yup. Camilla doesn't deserve this. She's no Queen Consort to me. She continued to pursue Charles while he was with Diana. He should have stuck it out with the mother of his children for the sake of the crown and Diana would have been exiting that vehicle today. So sad.

I just don’t understand this perspective. Neither Charles nor Diana were in love with each other by the end of their marriage, and they both were miserable and having affairs. So they should have just kept making each other miserable and having affairs because that would be better for the crown? I get it, people loved Diana, but this is advice you would give to no one you care about.

He never should have married Diana. And when he did he should have stayed faithful. Diana would have lived him til the end.

And not like Camilla has nothing to do with liking Diana. I don’t know anyone who likes the other woman,

What gave you this impression? The example set by her mother? Her multiple affairs after discovering Charle’s infidelity weren’t exactly testament to any deep constancy on her part.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hate her.

Diana should be queen

Yup. Camilla doesn't deserve this. She's no Queen Consort to me. She continued to pursue Charles while he was with Diana. He should have stuck it out with the mother of his children for the sake of the crown and Diana would have been exiting that vehicle today. So sad.

I just don’t understand this perspective. Neither Charles nor Diana were in love with each other by the end of their marriage, and they both were miserable and having affairs. So they should have just kept making each other miserable and having affairs because that would be better for the crown? I get it, people loved Diana, but this is advice you would give to no one you care about.

He never should have married Diana. And when he did he should have stayed faithful. Diana would have lived him til the end.

And not like Camilla has nothing to do with liking Diana. I don’t know anyone who likes the other woman,

So he should have been forced to endure a loveless, basically arranged marriage till the end despite the fact that affairs are commonplace among that lot. And she as well. Sounds great!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I assume she wont be speaking on any matters of substance publicly during King Charles reign either?

Camilla already speaks on matters of substance. I saw her at one of her August appearances in a small village in Charles's Duchy of Cornwall. She met with the local woman's group (but there were many men there too) and discussed the work the women do on behalf of the Macmillan Trust to support cancer victims. She was very articulate, particularly about hospice care, and one of the local midwives told me she was very well respected. The royals cannot speak on political matters, but Camilla certainly seemed to know her stuff. Charles was the at RNLI at the same time, and people said he was very impressive too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No one is going to pay them any more attention now than they ever did. They are boring and uneventful. All eyes will remain on W&K.

Certainly there will be a lot of eyes on Charles and Camilla during his coronation.

William will probably be an old man before he has a chance to be King.

Hopefully I will live to see the reign of King George. (I think their should be limits to how long they reign. Charles should step down at 80 and William at 70, George would be 39 then.)

It’s usually a job until death as Queen Elizabeth recently demonstrated.

Sometimes is it good for the elderly to step aside and let younger minds lead/make decisions.

Queen Elizabeth approved the new Prime Minister two days before her death. Did your gran gran do that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If she outlives Charles, she’ll become the Dowager Queen. She’ll probably be set up in a cottage in Windsor park and live out her life ignored by her stepson.

He can kick her out completely unless Charles leaves her one of his properties.

You’re talking about William? He’s not going to do that. They’re quite close now.

And it seems like she and Kate are close too. The kids look at her as a grandmother (and it looks like she really loves them) so I think William will make sure she is taken care of. I actually think he treats her better than her own kids do (not that they don't have a good reason but that's another issue).

I never understood the disdain for Camilla. Did they handle the situation well? No, of course not. But that was years ago and she "destroyed" a marriage that was doomed from the get-go. They're just two people who loved one another and finally said, screw it, we want to be together. Good for them--they seem really happy. And Diana wanted out of royal life anyway. Awful that it ended the way it did but Camilla didn't kill her.

This. Whatever about his personal life. Being King is about being a figurehead and devoting life to service. Charles will be, objectively, good at that. I've always admired his work in climate change, even when people thought he was crazy and "hippy dippy." I admire his work with the Jewish community and communities of all different faiths and his wish to change his title from "Defender of The Faith" to "Defender of Faith." I hugely admire The Prince's Trust and can objectively see the good work that's come out of it.

Charles' paternal grandmother hid a Jewish family when Greece was occupied by Nazis. Her dying request was to be buried on the Mt. of Olives in Jerusalem and she is also a Righteous Among Nations. Three of his paternal aunts were married to Nazis. Possibly with his father's guidance, he worked out those strange circumstances.

[Anonymous]

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Legend has it that in the early days, Camilla flirtatiously reminded Charles that her great-grandmother, Alice Keppel, was long-standing mistress to a previous Prince of Wales who became King Edward VII. She then apparently said: "So how about it?"

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/rottweiler-queen-consort-camillas-rise-shadow-diana-2022-09-08/

Well I never!

Charles has also bought back some of the jewelry given to Alice by the Prince that was sold by her family on her death and given to Camilla.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For Camilla after Charles goes, remember the Queen Mother. She had what looked to be a great life, joining her daughter for various public and family events, lots of cocktails, and not working too hard. True, Camilla is not William’s mother and nobody knows how he really feels about her, but he’s too smart to openly disrespect her.

Camilla is a backdoor trollop. The Queen Mother was given Clarence House and a castle in Scotland because she was the birth mother of the Queen. You ever heard the adage daughters take care of their mothers?

No one's taking care of Camilla if Charles kicks the bucket tomorrow. She has the house in the middle of nowhere though.

The Queen Mother was kicked out of Buckingham Palace by her daughter and very reluctantly moved to Clarence House. She bought her own castle in Scotland.

Charles set up Camilla well before the marriage and she will inherit millions from him. Harry was able to leave the royal family because he inherited money from his mother that was part of the divorce settlement from Prince Charles. Charles owns a great deal of Cornwall and will leave Camilla quite well off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hate her.

Diana should be queen

Yup. Camilla doesn't deserve this. She's no Queen Consort to me. She continued to pursue Charles while he was with Diana. He should have stuck it out with the mother of his children for the sake of the crown and Diana would have been exiting that vehicle today. So sad.

I just don’t understand this perspective. Neither Charles nor Diana were in love with each other by the end of their marriage, and they both were miserable and having affairs. So they should have just kept making each other miserable and having affairs because that would be better for the crown? I get it, people loved Diana, but this is advice you would give to no one you care about.

I would not advise them to shack up with their affair partner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Legend has it that in the early days, Camilla flirtatiously reminded Charles that her great-grandmother, Alice Keppel, was long-standing mistress to a previous Prince of Wales who became King Edward VII. She then apparently said: "So how about it?"

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/rottweiler-queen-consort-camillas-rise-shadow-diana-2022-09-08/

Well I never!

Charles has also bought back some of the jewelry given to Alice by the Prince that was sold by her family on her death and given to Camilla.

Camilla was left $2M when her dad died which has grown to $5M minimum.