Pelosi and Taiwan

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Pelosi's ego is about to start WWIII:

Who is Pelosi again? She's not PUSA, so why is she trying to travel abroad like she is representative of our nation? This dingbat's ego is going to open up a whole can of worms we wished never got opened, now that China has all sorts of hubris. Pelosi just needs to go away.

So you think it's okay for Chonaor any country, to dictate to the US Speaker of the House of Representatives, third in line to Presidency, where they can go or not go?
I don't think so.

I guess you're the reincarnated Neville Chamberlain.

You are what happens when kids don't learn proper civics in school. Sit down.


She is Speaker of the House. She is not President. She is not Secretary of State. Get it through your thick skull....the American public did not elect Pelosi to represent the country. She needs to stop acting like she is in charge of running diplomatic affairs at the nation-state level. She's a 2nd tier politician causing a shit storm because she is doing things well outside of her jurisdiction. She needs to know her place.

Apparently, you know nothing about the line of the presidency. The Speaker of the House of Representatives is third on line to the presidency. If the president is incapacitated or dies, VP IS president. If VP is also incapacitated or dead then the Speaker of the House is president. Contrary to popular belief, ignorance is not bliss.

For your further information the Speaker of the House is elected by the elected members of the House of Representatives who are elected by the electorate of their states. Again, ignorance is not bliss.

It is better to be silent than to shout your ignorance even to an anonymous chat room.

[Anonymous]

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This guy is an idiot.

There was no pushback to these people going because NOBODY KNEW THEY WERE GOING. Their trip wasn't leaked in advance.
This is not difficult.

I am another "voted for Trump twice" and I fully support her visit. Wish it was bipartisan.

What was so bad about this trip is that the possibility of it happening was leaked in advance.

So what if they went there sneakily? Pelosi isn't hiding anything and isn't hiding from China. The US shouldn't be. We should not be cowed by China's saber rattling.

At any rate, she's now landed and is on schedule to meet Taiwanese leadership.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like Pelosi's ego is about to start WWIII:

Who is Pelosi again? She's not PUSA, so why is she trying to travel abroad like she is representative of our nation? This dingbat's ego is going to open up a whole can of worms we wished never got opened, now that China has all sorts of hubris. Pelosi just needs to go away.

So you think it's okay for Chonaor any country, to dictate to the US Speaker of the House of Representatives, third in line to Presidency, where they can go or not go?
I don't think so.

I guess you're the reincarnated Neville Chamberlain.

She is Speaker of the House. She is not President. She is not Secretary of State. Get it through your thick skull....the American public did not elect Pelosi to represent the country. She needs to stop acting like she is in charge of running diplomatic affairs at the nation-state level. She's a 2nd tier politician causing a shit storm because she is doing things well outside of her jurisdiction. She needs to know her place.

She's 2nd in line to the Presidency and heads a co-equal branch of government. Stop pretending like she is somehow illegitimate.

Did the country elect Pelosi? Is Pelosi head of state? Is the Speaker of the House in charge of international relations and diplomatic affairs?

She was elected by the members of the house of representatives.
She is second in line to the presidency.

What is your point?

Were you this upset when Newt Gingrich went in the same capacity?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/pelosi-expected-arrive-taiwan-tuesday-sources-say-2022-08-02/

Chinese warplanes buzz Taiwan Strait dividing line

U.S. House speaker's visit has enraged Beijing

Beijing insists self-ruled Taiwan is part of China

Question: Are we going to war with China?

If China wants to see the debt owed by the US evaporate in seconds, it will go to war.

Hence, it won't.

[Anonymous]

Meanwhile there has been at least 21 incidents where Chinese planes have passed into Taiwan air space since Pelosi's landing.

[Anonymous]

Ok this is interesting…

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/pelosi-expected-arrive-taiwan-tuesday-sources-say-2022-08-02/

Chinese warplanes buzz Taiwan Strait dividing line

U.S. House speaker's visit has enraged Beijing

Beijing insists self-ruled Taiwan is part of China

Question: Are we going to war with China?

If China wants to see the debt owed by the US evaporate in seconds, it will go to war.

Hence, it won't.

That's reassuring. Only our financial debt to China prevents them from starting a war. Got it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/pelosi-expected-arrive-taiwan-tuesday-sources-say-2022-08-02/

Chinese warplanes buzz Taiwan Strait dividing line

U.S. House speaker's visit has enraged Beijing

Beijing insists self-ruled Taiwan is part of China

Question: Are we going to war with China?

If China wants to see the debt owed by the US evaporate in seconds, it will go to war.

Hence, it won't.

That's reassuring. Only our financial debt to China prevents them from starting a war. Got it.

They chose to run a trade surplus with the US plus implement a policy of strictly limiting the outflow of capital to purchase assets in the US. Therefore, they have no choice but to buy and own US debt. They out themselves in this position.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/pelosi-expected-arrive-taiwan-tuesday-sources-say-2022-08-02/

Chinese warplanes buzz Taiwan Strait dividing line

U.S. House speaker's visit has enraged Beijing

Beijing insists self-ruled Taiwan is part of China

Question: Are we going to war with China?

If China wants to see the debt owed by the US evaporate in seconds, it will go to war.

Hence, it won't.

This is foolish. US debt is packed by the full faith and credit of the US. If the US won't honor debt it has issued, the USD will cease to be a reserve currency for the rest of the world.

[Anonymous]

I hate peslosi but am totally fine with her visit to Taiwan.

China does tell us who can travel where, other than to China. Which Taiwan has been separated from for like 80 years now.

[Anonymous]

Queen Pelosi showed Biden and the White House who’s really in charge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/pelosi-expected-arrive-taiwan-tuesday-sources-say-2022-08-02/

Chinese warplanes buzz Taiwan Strait dividing line

U.S. House speaker's visit has enraged Beijing

Beijing insists self-ruled Taiwan is part of China

Question: Are we going to war with China?

Empty saber rattling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/pelosi-expected-arrive-taiwan-tuesday-sources-say-2022-08-02/

Chinese warplanes buzz Taiwan Strait dividing line

U.S. House speaker's visit has enraged Beijing

Beijing insists self-ruled Taiwan is part of China

Question: Are we going to war with China?

Empty saber rattling.

5 unprecedented simultaneous live fire drills around the island? You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. You’re probably a vaguely liberal dumbass biglaw associate who works on editing commas out of stock purchase agreement.

If you don’t think this episode materially moves the needle in terms of aggression/assertiveness in terms of PRC’s claim to Taiwan then you’re an idiot. Imagine Taiwan were Hawaii and tell me that’s an acceptable result.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am confused. Are we supposed to push back against China or push back against Pelosi? Such dilemma for GOP trumpers...

LOL

Ask Biden. Even his administration did not support Pelosi's idea.

She's gone rogue and is pretending like she represents the US.

This. She truly has delusions of grandeur.

She’s important enough for China to care. Do you think US politicians should follow China’s orders?