Knife-wielding assailant tries to stab NY gubernatorial candidate Lee Zeldin

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What happened to Zeldin is not okay.

What the governor of NY said is okay. This is from RW favorite New York Post.

[The spoof pointed out the date and times of Zeldin’s events to RSVP, including one “to hear Zeldin’s plans to put more guns on our streets and in our communities, ensuring New Yorkers are less safe.”

The Hochul release also said voters should RSVP to a Sunday event to hear Zeldin “discuss his enduring loyalty to Donald Trump, his hard-fought efforts against Trump’s impeachment, his vote against certifying the 2020 presidential election results, and his refusal to support an investigation into the January 6 insurrection.”]

Isn’t it interesting how you have to post the ‘also said’? I fully agree with you - I don’t think Hochul is responsible for the Zeldin attack, simply because she said the word ‘confront’. If only the same standards that the left lives by were extended to the right. But they aren’t.

Not me. That's a direct quote from the NYP. Just to be clear.

[Anonymous]

The whataboutism on this thread is out of control.

To remind people....

This thread is about an assailant who attacked Lee Zeldin. Period.

Your attempt to divert attention from this topic is not going to be successful.

[Anonymous]

Ok, so we have problems - anyone care to share the GOP’s plans to deal with them?

[Anonymous]

He's back in custody...... Because NY has such lax laws, the feds stepped in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ok, so we have problems - anyone care to share the GOP’s plans to deal with them?

I'll bite.

The first problem was that there was an attack to begin with. The political rhetoric today hasn't helped. But, this man is clearly troubled. He needs help. But, since he used a knife instead of a gun, his mental health issues don't seem to matter. He should have been evaluated as soon as he was arrested. But, he wasn't.

The second problem... and the bigger one in my opinion.... is the fact that he was free to walk the streets hours after the attack. Once again, he used a knife instead of a gun. If he had threatened him with a gun, would he still be locked up under NY law? Is a knife any less lethal than a gun? We have people who trespassed on the Capital on J6, hurt nobody, did no damage, and they are STILL being detained pre-trial. But, this guy threatened a sitting Congressman and is free within hours. Does that seem remotely right? Fortunately, the feds have stepped in, taken him into custody, and slapped federal charges on him. Maybe he'll get the help he needs now.

The desire for some of our large, progressive cities to want to swing the pendulum so far that they are now advocates for criminals instead of the victims is a huge problem. And, NYC is not alone in this.

[Anonymous]

There is still something very off about this

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is still something very off about this

Seems the assailant may have been intoxicated. That may be why you think something was "off."

[jsteele]

Maybe it was mentioned earlier in the thread but I did a quick check and didn't see it. Sandra Doorley, the District Attorney who charged Jakubonis with second degree assault is a co-chair of Zeldin's campaign. Because the charge was second degree and not first degree, Jakubonis was eligible for release. So, I don't think the repeated attempts to blame Jakubonis' release on progressives are warranted. To the contrary, Zeldin's own campaign co-chair is to blame.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:Maybe it was mentioned earlier in the thread but I did a quick check and didn't see it. Sandra Doorley, the District Attorney who charged Jakubonis with second degree assault is a co-chair of Zeldin's campaign. Because the charge was second degree and not first degree, Jakubonis was eligible for release. So, I don't think the repeated attempts to blame Jakubonis' release on progressives are warranted. To the contrary, Zeldin's own campaign co-chair is to blame.

I agree. I think it was pre-planned by Zeldin so he could say that the guy would probably be released.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:Maybe it was mentioned earlier in the thread but I did a quick check and didn't see it. Sandra Doorley, the District Attorney who charged Jakubonis with second degree assault is a co-chair of Zeldin's campaign. Because the charge was second degree and not first degree, Jakubonis was eligible for release. So, I don't think the repeated attempts to blame Jakubonis' release on progressives are warranted. To the contrary, Zeldin's own campaign co-chair is to blame.

Cashless bail was brought into law January 1, 2020. Wasn't Doorley simply following the law? Didn't she have to? Who wrote the law?

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:Maybe it was mentioned earlier in the thread but I did a quick check and didn't see it. Sandra Doorley, the District Attorney who charged Jakubonis with second degree assault is a co-chair of Zeldin's campaign. Because the charge was second degree and not first degree, Jakubonis was eligible for release. So, I don't think the repeated attempts to blame Jakubonis' release on progressives are warranted. To the contrary, Zeldin's own campaign co-chair is to blame.

I think it was staged. A false flag.

[Anonymous]

Conservatives lie saying the election was stolen, storm the Capitol, kill police, try to overthrow the government, try to hang the VP, etc- conservatives support it, swear the allegiance to the leader of the insurrection and actively try to undermine the investigation.

A gun man kills elementary school kids while the police watch, the governor covers up, story changes every other day, etc - conservatives defend the police, governor and say it is the kids fault.
One lone knife wielding mental ill person makes a 1/2 a$$ attacks on a GOP candidate(no one hurt). Oh it’s the end of the world for conservatives, New York is falling apart, dems are making the world unsafe, etc. Please just stop. There is no comparison.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Conservatives lie saying the election was stolen, storm the Capitol, kill police, try to overthrow the government, try to hang the VP, etc- conservatives support it, swear the allegiance to the leader of the insurrection and actively try to undermine the investigation.

A gun man kills elementary school kids while the police watch, the governor covers up, story changes every other day, etc - conservatives defend the police, governor and say it is the kids fault.
One lone knife wielding mental ill person makes a 1/2 a$$ attacks on a GOP candidate(no one hurt). Oh it’s the end of the world for conservatives, New York is falling apart, dems are making the world unsafe, etc. Please just stop. There is no comparison.

this times infinity

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok, so we have problems - anyone care to share the GOP’s plans to deal with them?

I'll bite.

The first problem was that there was an attack to begin with. The political rhetoric today hasn't helped. But, this man is clearly troubled. He needs help. But, since he used a knife instead of a gun, his mental health issues don't seem to matter. He should have been evaluated as soon as he was arrested. But, he wasn't.

The second problem... and the bigger one in my opinion.... is the fact that he was free to walk the streets hours after the attack. Once again, he used a knife instead of a gun. If he had threatened him with a gun, would he still be locked up under NY law? Is a knife any less lethal than a gun? We have people who trespassed on the Capital on J6, hurt nobody, did no damage, and they are STILL being detained pre-trial. But, this guy threatened a sitting Congressman and is free within hours. Does that seem remotely right? Fortunately, the feds have stepped in, taken him into custody, and slapped federal charges on him. Maybe he'll get the help he needs now.

The desire for some of our large, progressive cities to want to swing the pendulum so far that they are now advocates for criminals instead of the victims is a huge problem. And, NYC is not alone in this.

I think I posted my comment to the wrong thread - sorry

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Maybe it was mentioned earlier in the thread but I did a quick check and didn't see it. Sandra Doorley, the District Attorney who charged Jakubonis with second degree assault is a co-chair of Zeldin's campaign. Because the charge was second degree and not first degree, Jakubonis was eligible for release. So, I don't think the repeated attempts to blame Jakubonis' release on progressives are warranted. To the contrary, Zeldin's own campaign co-chair is to blame.

Cashless bail was brought into law January 1, 2020. Wasn't Doorley simply following the law? Didn't she have to? Who wrote the law?

If Jakubonis had been charged with first degree assault, he would not have been eligible for release. Zeldin Campaign Co-Chair and District Attorney Doorley inexplicably chose the lesser 2nd degree charge. Because this appears to have been an attempt to inflict serious injury with a weapon, the first degree charge is justified. For that matter, an attempted murder charge would not be out of the question.