BA.2 surge hitting US in April/May

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Anonymous wrote:Check that wastewater.


That has started to happen: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-confirms-uptick-covid-19-found-wastewater-rcna20120

"Government scientists confirmed Tuesday that there has been an uptick in the presence of Covid-19 in wastewater samples across the U.S." However they also say that wastewater isn't tested nationally, so this might not be representative of an uptick everywhere.



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Anonymous wrote:The immune compromised have always been around. Contagious diseases have always been around. Now with Covid, the IC are the latest victim group suddenly requiring special consideration from the rest of us.

Protect and take care of yourselves while we live our lives, please.


What a d*ck.


DP. Nah, just realistic. Immune compromised is the new gluten intolerant. There really aren't that many truly immune compromised people as are suddenly claiming to be. And if they are, they need to take personal agency and protect themselves, instead of thinking a snotty Paw Patrol mask on a 5 year old is going to do anything to protect them.
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Anonymous wrote:Vulnerable people have had TWO years to arrange their lives in a way that manages their personal risk; be it through vaccines, masking or a lifestyle that puts them in less contact with the public. I am tired and unwilling to up-end my life yet again to accommodate those that have not.


Exactly. If someone died from COVID because they didn't get vaccinated? Not my problem.

"We need to mask to save the hospitals from becoming overburdened" = never happened even at the peaks.

You're so immunocompromised that COVID is a threat even with a vaccine = you need to stay at home. Others masking outside isn't going to save you (and let's be honest - are you really, genuinely, immunocompromised?).



If only I could keep my (yes legitimately immune compromised self) home away from people like you who don't give a sh*t about my health or life. But we immune compromised people have to go to doctor's appointments, as well as take care of other life necessities, like work, and we still have to send our kids to (now mask optional) school. So your plan for us doesn't work so well but thanks for trying.


Honest question…how did you deal with flu season each year before covid?


How did you deal with HIV or STDs before Covid? Did you act like they were like a cold? Did you just deal?


So, you’re suggesting people should wear condoms on their faces to avoid covid. Maybe that would work?


It would work. That's basically what high-filtration masks are. But apparently some of us are too precious to wear them.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Vulnerable people have had TWO years to arrange their lives in a way that manages their personal risk; be it through vaccines, masking or a lifestyle that puts them in less contact with the public. I am tired and unwilling to up-end my life yet again to accommodate those that have not.


Exactly. If someone died from COVID because they didn't get vaccinated? Not my problem.

"We need to mask to save the hospitals from becoming overburdened" = never happened even at the peaks.

You're so immunocompromised that COVID is a threat even with a vaccine = you need to stay at home. Others masking outside isn't going to save you (and let's be honest - are you really, genuinely, immunocompromised?).



If only I could keep my (yes legitimately immune compromised self) home away from people like you who don't give a sh*t about my health or life. But we immune compromised people have to go to doctor's appointments, as well as take care of other life necessities, like work, and we still have to send our kids to (now mask optional) school. So your plan for us doesn't work so well but thanks for trying.


Honest question…how did you deal with flu season each year before covid?


What an ignorant, evil question. I'm a new poster to this thread. I'll answer. I basically ignored flu season. Then I lost my dad to covid before any vaccines were available. Then my three best friends lost parents.

Most of the rest of us got covid at one point or another, despite vaccines and masks. Some were fine; some got really sick; some still can't smell anything.

So here's my answer to you: The flu and covid are not the same, and you're an absolute ignoramus (that's not really the word I want to use) for insulting the PP like this. And if you don't die of covid, you'll die young of something else because you don't care about medicine or science or taking care of yourself or others in our society. So shut up, stop being so selfish, put on a mask, get your fourth vaccine if you're lucky, and try to contribute something to society instead of sounding like a complete moron.





This is an insane response and you have anger issues that must be affecting other parts of your life.

Also..."Most of the rest of us got covid"...who is most of the rest of us? And why if you all are so careful? And wouldn't this make the argument that masks don't really work all that well then?

It's even a confusing angry rant.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The immune compromised have always been around. Contagious diseases have always been around. Now with Covid, the IC are the latest victim group suddenly requiring special consideration from the rest of us.

Protect and take care of yourselves while we live our lives, please.


What a d*ck.


DP. Nah, just realistic. Immune compromised is the new gluten intolerant. There really aren't that many truly immune compromised people as are suddenly claiming to be. And if they are, they need to take personal agency and protect themselves, instead of thinking a snotty Paw Patrol mask on a 5 year old is going to do anything to protect them.


The irony is that everything you said is the opposite of realistic.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The immune compromised have always been around. Contagious diseases have always been around. Now with Covid, the IC are the latest victim group suddenly requiring special consideration from the rest of us.

Protect and take care of yourselves while we live our lives, please.


What a d*ck.


DP. Nah, just realistic. Immune compromised is the new gluten intolerant. There really aren't that many truly immune compromised people as are suddenly claiming to be. And if they are, they need to take personal agency and protect themselves, instead of thinking a snotty Paw Patrol mask on a 5 year old is going to do anything to protect them.


Nope, I have to agree with PP this is a textbook dick response.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Vulnerable people have had TWO years to arrange their lives in a way that manages their personal risk; be it through vaccines, masking or a lifestyle that puts them in less contact with the public. I am tired and unwilling to up-end my life yet again to accommodate those that have not.


Exactly. If someone died from COVID because they didn't get vaccinated? Not my problem.

"We need to mask to save the hospitals from becoming overburdened" = never happened even at the peaks.

You're so immunocompromised that COVID is a threat even with a vaccine = you need to stay at home. Others masking outside isn't going to save you (and let's be honest - are you really, genuinely, immunocompromised?).



If only I could keep my (yes legitimately immune compromised self) home away from people like you who don't give a sh*t about my health or life. But we immune compromised people have to go to doctor's appointments, as well as take care of other life necessities, like work, and we still have to send our kids to (now mask optional) school. So your plan for us doesn't work so well but thanks for trying.


Honest question…how did you deal with flu season each year before covid?


How did you deal with HIV or STDs before Covid? Did you act like they were like a cold? Did you just deal?


So, you’re suggesting people should wear condoms on their faces to avoid covid. Maybe that would work?


It would work. That's basically what high-filtration masks are. But apparently some of us are too precious to wear them.


Go ahead - wear your high quality mask. No one is trying to stop you. But for people who are already vaxxed and had covid - they can make their own decisions, for example.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The immune compromised have always been around. Contagious diseases have always been around. Now with Covid, the IC are the latest victim group suddenly requiring special consideration from the rest of us.

Protect and take care of yourselves while we live our lives, please.


What a d*ck.


DP. Nah, just realistic. Immune compromised is the new gluten intolerant. There really aren't that many truly immune compromised people as are suddenly claiming to be. And if they are, they need to take personal agency and protect themselves, instead of thinking a snotty Paw Patrol mask on a 5 year old is going to do anything to protect them.


The irony is that everything you said is the opposite of realistic.


Where's the irony? Be specific, please.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Vulnerable people have had TWO years to arrange their lives in a way that manages their personal risk; be it through vaccines, masking or a lifestyle that puts them in less contact with the public. I am tired and unwilling to up-end my life yet again to accommodate those that have not.


Exactly. If someone died from COVID because they didn't get vaccinated? Not my problem.

"We need to mask to save the hospitals from becoming overburdened" = never happened even at the peaks.

You're so immunocompromised that COVID is a threat even with a vaccine = you need to stay at home. Others masking outside isn't going to save you (and let's be honest - are you really, genuinely, immunocompromised?).



If only I could keep my (yes legitimately immune compromised self) home away from people like you who don't give a sh*t about my health or life. But we immune compromised people have to go to doctor's appointments, as well as take care of other life necessities, like work, and we still have to send our kids to (now mask optional) school. So your plan for us doesn't work so well but thanks for trying.


Honest question…how did you deal with flu season each year before covid?


What an ignorant, evil question. I'm a new poster to this thread. I'll answer. I basically ignored flu season. Then I lost my dad to covid before any vaccines were available. Then my three best friends lost parents.

Most of the rest of us got covid at one point or another, despite vaccines and masks. Some were fine; some got really sick; some still can't smell anything.

So here's my answer to you: The flu and covid are not the same, and you're an absolute ignoramus (that's not really the word I want to use) for insulting the PP like this. And if you don't die of covid, you'll die young of something else because you don't care about medicine or science or taking care of yourself or others in our society. So shut up, stop being so selfish, put on a mask, get your fourth vaccine if you're lucky, and try to contribute something to society instead of sounding like a complete moron.





This is an insane response and you have anger issues that must be affecting other parts of your life.

Also..."Most of the rest of us got covid"...who is most of the rest of us? And why if you all are so careful? And wouldn't this make the argument that masks don't really work all that well then?

It's even a confusing angry rant.


DP. Right- something weird is going on here for this person to be lecturing while clearly not being careful themselves. I’d say we are rather middle of the road as far as Covid precautions go and we have a number of family members who are essential workers (including DH) but certainly not everyone has gotten Covid or died from it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The immune compromised have always been around. Contagious diseases have always been around. Now with Covid, the IC are the latest victim group suddenly requiring special consideration from the rest of us.

Protect and take care of yourselves while we live our lives, please.


What a d*ck.


DP. Nah, just realistic. Immune compromised is the new gluten intolerant. There really aren't that many truly immune compromised people as are suddenly claiming to be. And if they are, they need to take personal agency and protect themselves, instead of thinking a snotty Paw Patrol mask on a 5 year old is going to do anything to protect them.


Nope, I have to agree with PP this is a textbook dick response.


It’s a dickish response but 100% true. Delivery was harsh but message is spot on.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Vulnerable people have had TWO years to arrange their lives in a way that manages their personal risk; be it through vaccines, masking or a lifestyle that puts them in less contact with the public. I am tired and unwilling to up-end my life yet again to accommodate those that have not.


Exactly. If someone died from COVID because they didn't get vaccinated? Not my problem.

"We need to mask to save the hospitals from becoming overburdened" = never happened even at the peaks.

You're so immunocompromised that COVID is a threat even with a vaccine = you need to stay at home. Others masking outside isn't going to save you (and let's be honest - are you really, genuinely, immunocompromised?).



If only I could keep my (yes legitimately immune compromised self) home away from people like you who don't give a sh*t about my health or life. But we immune compromised people have to go to doctor's appointments, as well as take care of other life necessities, like work, and we still have to send our kids to (now mask optional) school. So your plan for us doesn't work so well but thanks for trying.


Honest question…how did you deal with flu season each year before covid?


How did you deal with HIV or STDs before Covid? Did you act like they were like a cold? Did you just deal?


So, you’re suggesting people should wear condoms on their faces to avoid covid. Maybe that would work?


It would work. That's basically what high-filtration masks are. But apparently some of us are too precious to wear them.


Go ahead - wear your high quality mask. No one is trying to stop you. But for people who are already vaxxed and had covid - they can make their own decisions, for example.


Sure. I mean, their brains might be 2% smaller, but they can still decide things. (joking, joking)
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Vulnerable people have had TWO years to arrange their lives in a way that manages their personal risk; be it through vaccines, masking or a lifestyle that puts them in less contact with the public. I am tired and unwilling to up-end my life yet again to accommodate those that have not.


Exactly. If someone died from COVID because they didn't get vaccinated? Not my problem.

"We need to mask to save the hospitals from becoming overburdened" = never happened even at the peaks.

You're so immunocompromised that COVID is a threat even with a vaccine = you need to stay at home. Others masking outside isn't going to save you (and let's be honest - are you really, genuinely, immunocompromised?).



If only I could keep my (yes legitimately immune compromised self) home away from people like you who don't give a sh*t about my health or life. But we immune compromised people have to go to doctor's appointments, as well as take care of other life necessities, like work, and we still have to send our kids to (now mask optional) school. So your plan for us doesn't work so well but thanks for trying.


Honest question…how did you deal with flu season each year before covid?


What an ignorant, evil question. I'm a new poster to this thread. I'll answer. I basically ignored flu season. Then I lost my dad to covid before any vaccines were available. Then my three best friends lost parents.

Most of the rest of us got covid at one point or another, despite vaccines and masks. Some were fine; some got really sick; some still can't smell anything.

So here's my answer to you: The flu and covid are not the same, and you're an absolute ignoramus (that's not really the word I want to use) for insulting the PP like this. And if you don't die of covid, you'll die young of something else because you don't care about medicine or science or taking care of yourself or others in our society. So shut up, stop being so selfish, put on a mask, get your fourth vaccine if you're lucky, and try to contribute something to society instead of sounding like a complete moron.





This is an insane response and you have anger issues that must be affecting other parts of your life.

Also..."Most of the rest of us got covid"...who is most of the rest of us? And why if you all are so careful? And wouldn't this make the argument that masks don't really work all that well then?

It's even a confusing angry rant.


What are you talking about? That response was 100% fire from someone directly impacted by this disease whose father and friends parents died from covid. Sorry it doesn't fit the "let it rip" or "covid is over" message you are pushing, but covid happened and many people died from it so try to deal with reality.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Vulnerable people have had TWO years to arrange their lives in a way that manages their personal risk; be it through vaccines, masking or a lifestyle that puts them in less contact with the public. I am tired and unwilling to up-end my life yet again to accommodate those that have not.


Exactly. If someone died from COVID because they didn't get vaccinated? Not my problem.

"We need to mask to save the hospitals from becoming overburdened" = never happened even at the peaks.

You're so immunocompromised that COVID is a threat even with a vaccine = you need to stay at home. Others masking outside isn't going to save you (and let's be honest - are you really, genuinely, immunocompromised?).



If only I could keep my (yes legitimately immune compromised self) home away from people like you who don't give a sh*t about my health or life. But we immune compromised people have to go to doctor's appointments, as well as take care of other life necessities, like work, and we still have to send our kids to (now mask optional) school. So your plan for us doesn't work so well but thanks for trying.


Honest question…how did you deal with flu season each year before covid?


What an ignorant, evil question. I'm a new poster to this thread. I'll answer. I basically ignored flu season. Then I lost my dad to covid before any vaccines were available. Then my three best friends lost parents.

Most of the rest of us got covid at one point or another, despite vaccines and masks. Some were fine; some got really sick; some still can't smell anything.

So here's my answer to you: The flu and covid are not the same, and you're an absolute ignoramus (that's not really the word I want to use) for insulting the PP like this. And if you don't die of covid, you'll die young of something else because you don't care about medicine or science or taking care of yourself or others in our society. So shut up, stop being so selfish, put on a mask, get your fourth vaccine if you're lucky, and try to contribute something to society instead of sounding like a complete moron.





This is an insane response and you have anger issues that must be affecting other parts of your life.

Also..."Most of the rest of us got covid"...who is most of the rest of us? And why if you all are so careful? And wouldn't this make the argument that masks don't really work all that well then?

It's even a confusing angry rant.


What are you talking about? That response was 100% fire from someone directly impacted by this disease whose father and friends parents died from covid. Sorry it doesn't fit the "let it rip" or "covid is over" message you are pushing, but covid happened and many people died from it so try to deal with reality.


So the part that is confusing is that a person who says they mask diligently and is around others who mask regularly and presumably takes covid very seriously, it is statistically odd that such a person would know so many people who died from covid and also it is statistically odd that such a person would say "most of the rest of us" got covid. Further, if so many of her masking friends and family who behave as they are supposed to behave got covid, what does that say about how well their behavior worked?

See, it's confusing.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Vulnerable people have had TWO years to arrange their lives in a way that manages their personal risk; be it through vaccines, masking or a lifestyle that puts them in less contact with the public. I am tired and unwilling to up-end my life yet again to accommodate those that have not.


Exactly. If someone died from COVID because they didn't get vaccinated? Not my problem.

"We need to mask to save the hospitals from becoming overburdened" = never happened even at the peaks.

You're so immunocompromised that COVID is a threat even with a vaccine = you need to stay at home. Others masking outside isn't going to save you (and let's be honest - are you really, genuinely, immunocompromised?).



If only I could keep my (yes legitimately immune compromised self) home away from people like you who don't give a sh*t about my health or life. But we immune compromised people have to go to doctor's appointments, as well as take care of other life necessities, like work, and we still have to send our kids to (now mask optional) school. So your plan for us doesn't work so well but thanks for trying.


Honest question…how did you deal with flu season each year before covid?


What an ignorant, evil question. I'm a new poster to this thread. I'll answer. I basically ignored flu season. Then I lost my dad to covid before any vaccines were available. Then my three best friends lost parents.

Most of the rest of us got covid at one point or another, despite vaccines and masks. Some were fine; some got really sick; some still can't smell anything.

So here's my answer to you: The flu and covid are not the same, and you're an absolute ignoramus (that's not really the word I want to use) for insulting the PP like this. And if you don't die of covid, you'll die young of something else because you don't care about medicine or science or taking care of yourself or others in our society. So shut up, stop being so selfish, put on a mask, get your fourth vaccine if you're lucky, and try to contribute something to society instead of sounding like a complete moron.





This is an insane response and you have anger issues that must be affecting other parts of your life.

Also..."Most of the rest of us got covid"...who is most of the rest of us? And why if you all are so careful? And wouldn't this make the argument that masks don't really work all that well then?

It's even a confusing angry rant.


What are you talking about? That response was 100% fire from someone directly impacted by this disease whose father and friends parents died from covid. Sorry it doesn't fit the "let it rip" or "covid is over" message you are pushing, but covid happened and many people died from it so try to deal with reality.


So the part that is confusing is that a person who says they mask diligently and is around others who mask regularly and presumably takes covid very seriously, it is statistically odd that such a person would know so many people who died from covid and also it is statistically odd that such a person would say "most of the rest of us" got covid. Further, if so many of her masking friends and family who behave as they are supposed to behave got covid, what does that say about how well their behavior worked?

See, it's confusing.


Is it perhaps confusing to you because you have lost brain mass? PP's dad died before vaccines were available. And note the other people who also died were also parents of friends, so were in the vulnerable population of aged people. And how is it weird that PP knows many people who have gotten covid? People against masking in this very thread have been talking about the large number of people who have had covid. You just don't seem to like the fact that PP knows people who have gotten quite sick or died from covid, but your not liking it doesn't make it "confusing" for normal people, sorry not sorry.
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I mean, the news has been saying this stuff for weeks: people who have even mild cases of covid at greater risk of heart issues, at greater risk of stroke, at risk for other diseases due to lower level of T cells etc, and people start talking about some of the fallout they have seen and people hopped up on hopium are all "what are you talking about covid is mild and its over now amyway" etc. smdh
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