Blake at Churchill basketball game

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Anonymous wrote:Aerial view helps. Clearly Churchill player started it, but I don't see wrongdoing by coaches, right?


Is churchill in black or white? I think White.

If you go to the 1st second of the clip a white boy in black on on the ground, he gets up and bunches the black kid in white which knocks him out of bounds.

The black kid in white comes in from the out of bounds goes down the court and punches the white kid in black.


Video does show the entire incident.

Churchill (white jersey) blindsided Blake player and knocked him to the ground. Blake player gets up and shoves Churchill player out of bounds. Churchill player runs down court and throws first punch.


Pushing happens in basketball .. punching doesn’t.

Blake threw 1st punch.

I personally don’t care about either school.


The airel view looks like Churchill threw the first punch.

There was def shoving beforehand, and the refs need a tighter whistle in these types of games, but looks like the white team escalated


The refs did nothing to try and stop the fight. In our experience with MoCo athletics, the refs contributed to many poor decisions that would escalate tensions during games.no excuse for throwing any punches.

Refs don't stop fights, especially melees. That's up to game management and security. The most you can hope for is that the refs call a tight enough game that it doesn't get too chippy leading to this sort of thing.

Who the hell wants to ref these days, anyway? Even with decent game management and security on site, the parents are simply atrocious.


And where was security??? And where were school administrators??? Was there police on site???


Security and school administrators are some of people breaking up fight. Security gets paid over time for working sporting events. Basketball games typically don't have big crowds especially with non-rivals like Blake/Churchill. Probably only 1 or 2 security guards there. Police are required for every football game. They used to be required for every basketball game. That was cancelled about five years ago. Jack Smith didn't think it was necessary and cut the funding.


I played basketball a few decades ago in MCPS. Is it a physical sport with contact? Yes. Did players ever fight? No.

In my day, a flagrant behavior violation like fighting would immediately get you kicked off the team. The worse experience I ever had wasn’t related to players on the court but spectators in the stand. There was a need for police to be on site, sometimes to escort the visiting team to their bus. After one game, we experienced gang threats.

After that video, shouldn’t there be at least one police officer on site for basketball games as a precaution?
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I played basketball a few decades ago in MCPS. Is it a physical sport with contact? Yes. Did players ever fight? No.

In my day, a flagrant behavior violation like fighting would immediately get you kicked off the team. The worse experience I ever had wasn’t related to players on the court but spectators in the stand. There was a need for police to be on site, sometimes to escort the visiting team to their bus. After one game, we experienced gang threats.

After that video, shouldn’t there be at least one police officer on site for basketball games as a precaution?

Exactly - played in late 80s/early 90s - our coach would have permanently kicked off anyone fighting on the court. Immediately and end of story. Doesn't matter how good the player was. You're done. You knew going into season you had certain behavior you had to demonstrate - and no excuses - you're gone.... these days you get to say "oh he bumped me hard" and administrators let it slide or give some b.s. 3 game suspension....
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I played basketball a few decades ago in MCPS. Is it a physical sport with contact? Yes. Did players ever fight? No.

In my day, a flagrant behavior violation like fighting would immediately get you kicked off the team. The worse experience I ever had wasn’t related to players on the court but spectators in the stand. There was a need for police to be on site, sometimes to escort the visiting team to their bus. After one game, we experienced gang threats.

After that video, shouldn’t there be at least one police officer on site for basketball games as a precaution?


Exactly - played in late 80s/early 90s - our coach would have permanently kicked off anyone fighting on the court. Immediately and end of story. Doesn't matter how good the player was. You're done. You knew going into season you had certain behavior you had to demonstrate - and no excuses - you're gone.... these days you get to say "oh he bumped me hard" and administrators let it slide or give some b.s. 3 game suspension....

+1 A player back then had to not only show proper behavior on court, behavior in the classroom counted as well. If you earned a detention for anything (being tardy, talking back to a teacher, not doing the homework, etc.) you served that detention that day and coach would hear about it. If you got suspended for anything off court, you had to hand in your jersey.

Because the rules were enforced, players kept to playing the game and we didn’t fight - ever. Fans were a different story.
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My child said students were watching and talking about the video at school today. Kids will learn a lesson based on what the punishment for fighting is. No punishment, or no word of punishment, sends the students that fighting is an acceptable response when you feel slighted.

Is this really the message principals want to send their students?
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Anonymous wrote:My child said students were watching and talking about the video at school today. Kids will learn a lesson based on what the punishment for fighting is. No punishment, or no word of punishment, sends the students that fighting is an acceptable response when you feel slighted.

Is this really the message principals want to send their students?


Please someone (esp Churchill parents who received the administration email to begin with) have to come back and let us know what punishments (if any) are handed out.
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2 game suspension for Churchill player.
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Anonymous wrote:2 game suspension for Churchill player.


Inadequate punishment. No wonder kids brawl regularly in MCPS, whether on the courts or during school hours.
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Isn’t it interesting that in the county where people didn’t want the police in their schools any longer that now people are asking where the police were during this fight. Guess what? Erlich and Jawando don’t want them there.
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Anonymous wrote:2 game suspension for Churchill player.


Inadequate punishment. No wonder kids brawl regularly in MCPS, whether on the courts or during school hours.


Isnt basketball season over next week?
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Anonymous wrote:2 game suspension for Churchill player.


How do you know what the punishment was?
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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t it interesting that in the county where people didn’t want the police in their schools any longer that now people are asking where the police were during this fight. Guess what? Erlich and Jawando don’t want them there.


Police were not needed, clearly.
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According to Chris Cram, Montgomery County Public Schools’ Director of Communications (MCPS), disciplinary measures were taken against the players, but he would not reveal what measures were being taken to protect the students’ confidentiality. Cram told MyMCM that he did not have any information regarding any discipline for the schools’ coaches.
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Anonymous wrote:2 game suspension for Churchill player.


Inadequate punishment. No wonder kids brawl regularly in MCPS, whether on the courts or during school hours.


Isnt basketball season over next week?


No. Season go until 2/19 and then playoffs. Churchill played last night and has another 6 games.
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Other counties have 3 refs. Moco needs to get with the program. You can’t allow kids to punch a person out of bounds without a call.
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The board of education is run by women (plus 1 professor) of the generation who believe kids just need more hugs and everything will turn out okey-dokey.

Yes, the poster above who mentioned a slap on the wrist is a signal to all other student athletes that fighting is okay.

The student who assaulted the other player should have been kicked off the team and suspended from school and charged brought.

They should have made an example of him.
In the end , they did. That example is "the culture you grew up with is dead. Anything goes now."
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