Girls ECNL....1st month

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington has now played 7 games not 1 or 2 but 7. Most of their age groups are not doing well. Especially 07 which was always the weak group along with 05. 07suffered even more when three of their best players left for Loudoun. Rumor is that they left because of poor coaching and bad club leadership.

Last weekend the Arlington 07 team lost to Courage 0-4 but the game should have been 0-10. I know two Courage families that were upset they even made the trip to play such a weak team. These Arligton girls think they can play high school and club. Club leadership should stop this. Too many injuries and it is making Arlington look even worse than they are. Well, the results speak for themself. 05 Arlington is in 11th place, 06 Arlington is in 5th place and 07 Arlington is in 9th place. in 07 Mclean and Loudoun are battling for the top place. BRYC is a travesty and Arlington is not much better.

Unless the kids are in private school VA high school soccer is played in the spring and shouldn't be much of factor right now.

Arlington has a lot of kids attending private school and playing soccer this fall. ALOT. Many are at schools like Visi, Holton, Saint Johns, O'Connell and others. It is a huge factor especially for a club that was not really that strong or deep to begin with. I would be pissed if I was a nonprivate school teammate. These kids prioritized high school soccer which is not as important as club soccer. Pick one. You can not play both. Well you can and then you get the scores that Arlington is getting.

Maybe they should play at Bethesda then. Fall HS soccer and Mid Atlantic ECNL don’t mix. People sure spend a lot of money on private school to still do stupid things.

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington has now played 7 games not 1 or 2 but 7. Most of their age groups are not doing well. Especially 07 which was always the weak group along with 05. 07suffered even more when three of their best players left for Loudoun. Rumor is that they left because of poor coaching and bad club leadership.

Last weekend the Arlington 07 team lost to Courage 0-4 but the game should have been 0-10. I know two Courage families that were upset they even made the trip to play such a weak team. These Arligton girls think they can play high school and club. Club leadership should stop this. Too many injuries and it is making Arlington look even worse than they are. Well, the results speak for themself. 05 Arlington is in 11th place, 06 Arlington is in 5th place and 07 Arlington is in 9th place. in 07 Mclean and Loudoun are battling for the top place. BRYC is a travesty and Arlington is not much better.

Unless the kids are in private school VA high school soccer is played in the spring and shouldn't be much of factor right now.

Arlington has a lot of kids attending private school and playing soccer this fall. ALOT. Many are at schools like Visi, Holton, Saint Johns, O'Connell and others. It is a huge factor especially for a club that was not really that strong or deep to begin with. I would be pissed if I was a nonprivate school teammate. These kids prioritized high school soccer which is not as important as club soccer. Pick one. You can not play both. Well you can and then you get the scores that Arlington is getting.

Maybe they should have larger rosters

For them to have larger rosters they need to be able to attract good players. With their record who will want to play for them. McLean and Loudon have big rosters because kids want to play for winning teams. Arlington can barely get more than 15 girls on a team. When someone is hurt they pull from their lower teams and that further hurts the ECNL team as the lower team kids are not helpful. Arlington leadership should act like real leaders and tell girls that they need to choose high school or club for the fall season.

This is counter to what ECNL wants to promote. Also you would lose girls from a recruiting standpoint. Frankly there is nothing to be done on this front.

Arlington 08’s are crushing it. I doubt they will lose another games this year. They are making ECNL a joke or really just showing it for what it is…a water down league. A few top teams and everyone else who are just props….it’s like a few the Harlem Globetrotters and a bunch of the Washington Generals.

5th Place after 7 games is "crushing it"?

Soon you will be like your older sisters team. Last place

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington has now played 7 games not 1 or 2 but 7. Most of their age groups are not doing well. Especially 07 which was always the weak group along with 05. 07suffered even more when three of their best players left for Loudoun. Rumor is that they left because of poor coaching and bad club leadership.

Last weekend the Arlington 07 team lost to Courage 0-4 but the game should have been 0-10. I know two Courage families that were upset they even made the trip to play such a weak team. These Arligton girls think they can play high school and club. Club leadership should stop this. Too many injuries and it is making Arlington look even worse than they are. Well, the results speak for themself. 05 Arlington is in 11th place, 06 Arlington is in 5th place and 07 Arlington is in 9th place. in 07 Mclean and Loudoun are battling for the top place. BRYC is a travesty and Arlington is not much better.

Unless the kids are in private school VA high school soccer is played in the spring and shouldn't be much of factor right now.

Arlington has a lot of kids attending private school and playing soccer this fall. ALOT. Many are at schools like Visi, Holton, Saint Johns, O'Connell and others. It is a huge factor especially for a club that was not really that strong or deep to begin with. I would be pissed if I was a nonprivate school teammate. These kids prioritized high school soccer which is not as important as club soccer. Pick one. You can not play both. Well you can and then you get the scores that Arlington is getting.

Or do nothing and keep posting 0-3 and 0-4 losses with multitudes of injuries.

Maybe they should have larger rosters

For them to have larger rosters they need to be able to attract good players. With their record who will want to play for them. McLean and Loudon have big rosters because kids want to play for winning teams. Arlington can barely get more than 15 girls on a team. When someone is hurt they pull from their lower teams and that further hurts the ECNL team as the lower team kids are not helpful. Arlington leadership should act like real leaders and tell girls that they need to choose high school or club for the fall season.

This is counter to what ECNL wants to promote. Also you would lose girls from a recruiting standpoint. Frankly there is nothing to be done on this front.

[Anonymous]

A bit concerning for NOVA in the older age groups. 3 of top 4 in 06 age group are NC clubs. The top 7 teams in the U17 age group are none-NOVA clubs. The top 5 teams in the U18/19 age group are none-NOVA.

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Anonymous wrote:A bit concerning for NOVA in the older age groups. 3 of top 4 in 06 age group are NC clubs. The top 7 teams in the U17 age group are none-NOVA clubs. The top 5 teams in the U18/19 age group are none-NOVA.

Who TF is 😟 concerned? There are 14 teams per division. Anything in the top half of the table is respectable considering the level of competition. The difference between a top 5 and Top 8 ranking can be the result of one game. That’s how tight it is.

Now, what’s really concerning is paying 11,000 a year to play easy competition in the GA and then bragging about how your in first place. Better off handing on participation trophies.

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Anonymous wrote:A bit concerning for NOVA in the older age groups. 3 of top 4 in 06 age group are NC clubs. The top 7 teams in the U17 age group are none-NOVA clubs. The top 5 teams in the U18/19 age group are none-NOVA.

I think the reality is setting in. People will argue it is dilution but at the older ages, the top players are identified and they flock to the top teams. Those on top teams, who don't play, go to less competitive teams. The fact that the best area players are at ECNL but clubs are not at the top level means that this area is not as deep in player and coaching talent as Richmond, Charlotte and Raleigh.

The proof is in the recruiting. How many local players are signing with the top college programs, which have their pick of the elite talent from around the nation. Did UNC, UVA, FSU, Duke, UCLA, Stanford, PSU, etc. sign any local Class of 2022. Consider that a few years ago, McLean was competing for national ECNL titles with u18/19 teams that had players committed to UVA, UNC, Duke, Wisconsin, FSU, PSU, Georgetown, etc. What happened?

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Anonymous wrote:A bit concerning for NOVA in the older age groups. 3 of top 4 in 06 age group are NC clubs. The top 7 teams in the U17 age group are none-NOVA clubs. The top 5 teams in the U18/19 age group are none-NOVA.

I think the reality is setting in. People will argue it is dilution but at the older ages, the top players are identified and they flock to the top teams. Those on top teams, who don't play, go to less competitive teams. The fact that the best area players are at ECNL but clubs are not at the top level means that this area is not as deep in player and coaching talent as Richmond, Charlotte and Raleigh.

The proof is in the recruiting. How many local players are signing with the top college programs, which have their pick of the elite talent from around the nation. Did UNC, UVA, FSU, Duke, UCLA, Stanford, PSU, etc. sign any local Class of 2022. Consider that a few years ago, McLean was competing for national ECNL titles with u18/19 teams that had players committed to UVA, UNC, Duke, Wisconsin, FSU, PSU, Georgetown, etc. What happened?

There are 2022’s committed to top programs. It’s been discussed enough on this board.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A bit concerning for NOVA in the older age groups. 3 of top 4 in 06 age group are NC clubs. The top 7 teams in the U17 age group are none-NOVA clubs. The top 5 teams in the U18/19 age group are none-NOVA.

I think the reality is setting in. People will argue it is dilution but at the older ages, the top players are identified and they flock to the top teams. Those on top teams, who don't play, go to less competitive teams. The fact that the best area players are at ECNL but clubs are not at the top level means that this area is not as deep in player and coaching talent as Richmond, Charlotte and Raleigh.

The proof is in the recruiting. How many local players are signing with the top college programs, which have their pick of the elite talent from around the nation. Did UNC, UVA, FSU, Duke, UCLA, Stanford, PSU, etc. sign any local Class of 2022. Consider that a few years ago, McLean was competing for national ECNL titles with u18/19 teams that had players committed to UVA, UNC, Duke, Wisconsin, FSU, PSU, Georgetown, etc. What happened?

This isn't how dilution works. Top talent is top talent regardless of how many players are in the mix. Some years simply do not produce NT quality players. At many of the programs you have listed at least HALF of the rosters have players with some NT experience or exposure. Some years are deeper with players than others and that goes for all regions.

With the greater number of players in NOVA playing ECNL than those regions you mentioned the player pool is pretty wide so there is no excuse for a top player to not be identified if one truly exists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:A bit concerning for NOVA in the older age groups. 3 of top 4 in 06 age group are NC clubs. The top 7 teams in the U17 age group are none-NOVA clubs. The top 5 teams in the U18/19 age group are none-NOVA.

I think the reality is setting in. People will argue it is dilution but at the older ages, the top players are identified and they flock to the top teams. Those on top teams, who don't play, go to less competitive teams. The fact that the best area players are at ECNL but clubs are not at the top level means that this area is not as deep in player and coaching talent as Richmond, Charlotte and Raleigh.

The proof is in the recruiting. How many local players are signing with the top college programs, which have their pick of the elite talent from around the nation. Did UNC, UVA, FSU, Duke, UCLA, Stanford, PSU, etc. sign any local Class of 2022. Consider that a few years ago, McLean was competing for national ECNL titles with u18/19 teams that had players committed to UVA, UNC, Duke, Wisconsin, FSU, PSU, Georgetown, etc. What happened?

This isn't how dilution works. Top talent is top talent regardless of how many players are in the mix. Some years simply do not produce NT quality players. At many of the programs you have listed at least HALF of the rosters have players with some NT experience or exposure. Some years are deeper with players than others and that goes for all regions.

With the greater number of players in NOVA playing ECNL than those regions you mentioned the player pool is pretty wide so there is no excuse for a top player to not be identified if one truly exists.

They exist. They’ve been identified. They’re committed.

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I am unaware of any 2022 in NOVA committed to an elite college program, i.e. one that has made it to the College Cup in the past ten years. You can either accept the reality that the 2022 and 2023 are down years or that there is something more serious going on with proper coaching/development.

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Anonymous wrote:I am unaware of any 2022 in NOVA committed to an elite college program, i.e. one that has made it to the College Cup in the past ten years. You can either accept the reality that the 2022 and 2023 are down years or that there is something more serious going on with proper coaching/development.

It is likely just down years. There isn't any significant coaching changes, many of the top coaches who were here ten years ago still are here.

There is also the Covid factor which has affected the 22's and 23's the most in terms of recruiting. US Soccer obviously was unable to hold proper camps during this time as well. Lots of lost time and opportunities for all involved, even those bubble NT players.

[Anonymous]

Let’s see the graph.

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Anonymous wrote:I am unaware of any 2022 in NOVA committed to an elite college program, i.e. one that has made it to the College Cup in the past ten years. You can either accept the reality that the 2022 and 2023 are down years or that there is something more serious going on with proper coaching/development.

You’re moving the goalposts. PP mentioned Georgetown, Wisconsin, etc. Those aren’t “elite” programs that fit your College Cup criteria. What’s your list? Unc and FSU?

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Anonymous wrote:I am unaware of any 2022 in NOVA committed to an elite college program, i.e. one that has made it to the College Cup in the past ten years. You can either accept the reality that the 2022 and 2023 are down years or that there is something more serious going on with proper coaching/development.

You’re moving the goalposts. PP mentioned Georgetown, Wisconsin, etc. Those aren’t “elite” programs that fit your College Cup criteria. What’s your list? Unc and FSU?

South Carolina, Wake Forest and Virginia Tech have been to the College Cup in the last 10 years. There are commits at NOVA clubs to those programs. Wisconsin has not been since 1991.

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Anonymous wrote:I am unaware of any 2022 in NOVA committed to an elite college program, i.e. one that has made it to the College Cup in the past ten years. You can either accept the reality that the 2022 and 2023 are down years or that there is something more serious going on with proper coaching/development.

Just because there isn’t a commitment to UNC or FSU that doesn’t mean players in NOVA haven’t been recruited by those schools.