ICE Shooting in Minneapolis

[Anonymous]

Or should I say, "SHOTS."

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Anonymous wrote:Watch the extended video here. Start around 1:40:53

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH4efIHP2lc&t=6100s

You can see the shooter walk away from the vehicle, pull up his mask, and leaves the scene.

Is that what law enforcement officers do after they shoot someone? He skedaddled before the actual police could arrive.

Good slow motion replays in that link.

Two points it shows: 1. There is clearly visible space between the car and both ice agents legs when the first shot is fired. And 2. The agents left the scene after the shooting.

Yeah. He looked very hale and healthy, swaggering away from the murder. Barely stumbled from being dinged by the vehicle.

And fled the scene. They must have made up the hospital story to give cover to the fact that he left.

The misinformation is the problem, people are believing the narrative that ice have no arrest powers and are just fake police only to take care of immigration. Even this person is spreading misinformation. Ice are federal officers that can arrest and detain people not just for immigration violations.

This is why people are acting wild and crazy , the leaders on the left need to explain that they are law enforcement and have these powers and duties and you can't imepede them

Oh okay fake news poster.

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Anonymous wrote:One key aspect I have not seen discussed here or in the media:

- did the officers show their warrant to anybody there?

Because if they didn’t show a valid warrant then they were breaking the law! Has anyone even asked?

they were not on active patrol...they were heading back to their HQ for a break...so there was no warrant or frankly, any reason for them to stop, at all

So if an off-duty police officer sees you in trouble, they should not stop to help?

If an off-duty police officer sees someone parked in the street illegally, yes, they can stop and investigate. Sure. But if they aren't in a police car with flashing red lights, and they aren't wearing a uniform with ID - you don't have to pull over for them. How do you know they are cops?

She was a part of the protest. She intentionally had her car perpendicular in the road. She knew who they were

So you murdered just like ISIS.

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Anonymous wrote:One key aspect I have not seen discussed here or in the media:

- did the officers show their warrant to anybody there?

Because if they didn’t show a valid warrant then they were breaking the law! Has anyone even asked?

they were not on active patrol...they were heading back to their HQ for a break...so there was no warrant or frankly, any reason for them to stop, at all

So if an off-duty police officer sees you in trouble, they should not stop to help?

If an off-duty police officer sees someone parked in the street illegally, yes, they can stop and investigate. Sure. But if they aren't in a police car with flashing red lights, and they aren't wearing a uniform with ID - you don't have to pull over for them. How do you know they are cops?

She was a part of the protest. She intentionally had her car perpendicular in the road. She knew who they were

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a tragedy. An ICE officer is in the hospital after being hit by a moving car. A mother is dead. A child is an orphan. This is absolutely senseless. I wish people would stop harming law enforcement officers and themselves. LE is going to enforce the law, and that includes deportations. Please be safe everyone.

You didn't see the video of him sauntering down the street afterwards or jumping in a vehicle and driving away, huh?

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Anonymous wrote:The posters claiming that the ICE agent was not hit by the SUV are excessively emotional and the language used suggest that this poster or posters are unhinged.

It is fine to protest. It is illegal to assault a law enforcement officer with a 4.000 pound SUV.

I'm not claiming that he wasn't dinged by the SUV, I can see in the video that she hit him a little. If he hadn't been shooting at her he could have gotten completely out of the way.

Watch the video again. He deliberately walked in front of the SUV. She didn't deliberately try to hit him. She was trying to leave. She had no way to know for sure that he was actual law enforcement, and ICE aren't supposed to be traffic cops anyhow.

His job is to stop her. JFC

No it's not.

[Anonymous]

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The misinformation is the problem, people are believing the narrative that ice have no arrest powers and are just fake police only to take care of immigration. Even this person is spreading misinformation. Ice are federal officers that can arrest and detain people not just for immigration violations.

This is why people are acting wild and crazy , the leaders on the left need to explain that they are law enforcement and have these powers and duties and you can't imepede them

Yeah, I'm going to need more information about ICE being federal officers that I need to obey.

47 days training?

And WHY don't they wear identification for public accountability?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One key aspect I have not seen discussed here or in the media:

- did the officers show their warrant to anybody there?

Because if they didn’t show a valid warrant then they were breaking the law! Has anyone even asked?

they were not on active patrol...they were heading back to their HQ for a break...so there was no warrant or frankly, any reason for them to stop, at all

So if an off-duty police officer sees you in trouble, they should not stop to help?

Police officers are certified by the state law enforcement certification agency and as part of that are trained and supposed to stop to render aid. ICE is totally different and is not really LEO, not verified in the state process or subject to the same training requirements.
In addition. He didn’t stop to render aid so that’s a moot point.

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Anonymous wrote:One key aspect I have not seen discussed here or in the media:

- did the officers show their warrant to anybody there?

Because if they didn’t show a valid warrant then they were breaking the law! Has anyone even asked?

they were not on active patrol...they were heading back to their HQ for a break...so there was no warrant or frankly, any reason for them to stop, at all

So if an off-duty police officer sees you in trouble, they should not stop to help?

If an off-duty police officer sees someone parked in the street illegally, yes, they can stop and investigate. Sure. But if they aren't in a police car with flashing red lights, and they aren't wearing a uniform with ID - you don't have to pull over for them. How do you know they are cops?

She was a part of the protest. She intentionally had her car perpendicular in the road. She knew who they were

There was a white vehicle right next to her vehicle that was blocking the road as much as hers was. She would have had to make a perpendicular motion to even get around that vehicle.

And given Dan Bovino said in a deposition (a lawsuit against DHS out of Chicago) there is no use of force policy that just makes it open season for any agents out there.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, it’s not even clear whether these people work for the government at all with the outfits they are wearing. If I were in that situation I would probably think I was being kidnapped by some random thugs.

They are wearing federal police uniforms marked with “police”

Do you know how many federal/military law enforcement agencies there are? Is someone supposed to recognize every single one of them, especially when they're wearing face masks and tactical gear to cover up the uniforms?? Might as well say the Klan was a well organized, uniformed law enforcement agency.

+1 also the masks make them look the same as random carjackers, frankly. Their gear is not particularly distinguishable as criminals wear the same camo type clothes.

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ICE recruitment

https://www.ice.gov/join

America Needs You

America has been invaded by criminals and predators. We need YOU to get them out.

You do not need an undergraduate degree.

Are you ready to defend the homeland? Launch a dynamic and rewarding career as a Deportation Officer with Enforcement Removal Operations (ERO) at ICE! Join a dedicated team safeguarding U.S. borders and upholding immigration laws, playing a key role in defending our nation.

This entry-level role requires no college degree and offers up to $50,000 in signing and retention bonuses. If you're driven and ready to serve with pride, join ICE and become a vital part of homeland security!

Unfortunately, this is the same minimum bar for most police departments in the country these days. Low education and low IQ minimums unfortunately make any average educated American smarter than the random police officer. And we all know that low self esteem dullards use violence as a first response to try to cover up their blatant deficiencies.

[Anonymous]

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One year of low level experience in an office, zero education, and maybe a month and a half of training, some of which is learning to speak Spanish - and these ICE agents are given the authority to run around like they are state troopers and use lethal force? In unmarked cars, with no identification badges?


To be a MD state trooper, you also do not need a bachelors degree. But you do 27 weeks of Police Academy (residential) and some 45 college credits in law enforcement subjects, and 8 weeks on the job training with supervision.

https://mdsp.maryland.gov/Careers/Pages/training.aspx.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ICE Criminal Investigator Job

Are you ready to defend the homeland? Launch an impactful career as a Criminal Investigator with Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) at ICE! Join an elite team dedicated to defending the United States by tackling complex criminal threats and securing our nation's safety.

This role requires no college degree and offers up to $50,000 in signing and retention bonuses. If you're bold, analytical, and ready to make a difference, join HSI and become a vital part of Homeland Security!

As a Criminal Investigator, at the full performance level, you will perform the following duties:

Conduct and coordinate high-level comprehensive investigations involving individuals, groups, or large organizations operating at a local, national, or international level.
Use electronic surveillance, interviews, polygraph examination, and physical surveillance to obtain evidence in investigative cases.
Make arrests, confront multiple suspects, and secure scenes sometimes under potentially dangerous and hazardous environments.
Take part in securing signed statements, affidavits, and documentary evidence for inclusion in reports or case records.
Prepare sworn testimony on behalf of the government in criminal and federal grand jury cases.

Experience: One (1) year of specialized experience at the GS-07 grade level or equivalent performing these duties:

Investigating or assisting with investigations in one or more programmatic areas such as narcotics, money laundering, financial crimes, human trafficking, fraud, international trade, network intrusion response, counterintelligence, counterterrorism, counterproliferation or general criminal or administrative investigations;
Performing federal, state, and local law enforcement-related database queries;
Collecting or analyzing information in support of general criminal or administrative actions;
Conducting or assisting with interviews with generally cooperative individuals (e.g., suspects, witnesses, sources, and/or victims) to gather information.; AND
Assisting in the preparation of reports in support of general criminal or administrative actions

One year of low level experience in an office, zero education, and maybe a month and a half of training, some of which is learning to speak Spanish - and these ICE agents are given the authority to run around like they are state troopers and use lethal force? In unmarked cars, with no identification badges?


To be a MD state trooper, you also do not need a bachelors degree. But you do 27 weeks of Police Academy (residential) and some 45 college credits in law enforcement subjects, and 8 weeks on the job training with supervision.

https://mdsp.maryland.gov/Careers/Pages/training.aspx.

THANK YOU! The lack of training is a serious issue that not only outs regular people in jeopardy, but the ICE agents themselves.

[Anonymous]

It's a meaningless take.

This was an illegal shooting according to the DOJ's policy

https://www.justice.gov/jm/1-16000-department-justice-policy-use-force

Deadly force may not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing suspect.

Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury to the officer or others, and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle. Firearms may not be discharged from a moving vehicle except in exigent circumstances. In these situations, an officer must have an articulable reason for this use of deadly force.

The second and third shots from the side of the car? Murder.