Meghan Markle and Prince Harry News and Updates Part 2

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Anonymous wrote:Man some of y’all do not belong to biracial families and it shows. There are tons of speculation about skin color before the babies are born. We all wonder if they will take after Mom or Dad. It is not offensive, no one thinks that! No more than wondering whose eye color they will have. I can’t help but wonder if some poor schleb over there made an innocent comment and will now have the racist thing hanging over their head.

This. Discussing whether the baby’s hair, eyes, skin will look more like mom’s or dad’s is not a verboten subject in most interracial families. My husband and I certainly speculated about it.

What about in all-white families with a history of colonizing and exploiting people of color?

It could have been an innocuous comment or it could have been racist. We simply don’t have sufficient evidence to know one way or another. (Personally, I wouldn’t launch accusations of racism against family members unless I was ready to back it up.)

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Anonymous wrote:Oprah asked her, so it the title just because that’s how you get him security. And Meghan answered “no it’s his birthright.” So clearly Meghan cares about the title beyond the security piece.

Right. And it wasn't his birthright, at least not yet, so she really didn't understand the structure of the family she married into.

She is taking advantage of Americans ignorance of the BRF.

She comes across as so very self-centered. Poor Harry, cut off from all family and friends. It did not have to be this way. Not sure why they couldn't stick with a graceful exit and not burn these bridges.

Diana did not have a graceful exit...and did that not have a huge impact on Harry?

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Anonymous wrote:Man some of y’all do not belong to biracial families and it shows. There are tons of speculation about skin color before the babies are born. We all wonder if they will take after Mom or Dad. It is not offensive, no one thinks that! No more than wondering whose eye color they will have. I can’t help but wonder if some poor schleb over there made an innocent comment and will now have the racist thing hanging over their head.

I thought the same thing. This is part of why I think MM isn't as black as she'd like to present herself as - because she doesn't seem to have much experience being black.
What if some black or bi-racial Palace staffers had been speculating/asking this question? Would that person have gotten the dagger eye?

She’s only black when it’s convenient for her.

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Anonymous wrote:Man some of y’all do not belong to biracial families and it shows. There are tons of speculation about skin color before the babies are born. We all wonder if they will take after Mom or Dad. It is not offensive, no one thinks that! No more than wondering whose eye color they will have. I can’t help but wonder if some poor schleb over there made an innocent comment and will now have the racist thing hanging over their head.

This. Discussing whether the baby’s hair, eyes, skin will look more like mom’s or dad’s is not a verboten subject in most interracial families. My husband and I certainly speculated about it.

What about in all-white families with a history of colonizing and exploiting people of color?

It could have been an innocuous comment or it could have been racist. We simply don’t have sufficient evidence to know one way or another. (Personally, I wouldn’t launch accusations of racism against family members unless I was ready to back it up.)

It did not happen in a vacuum. There was constant racist coverage.

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Anonymous wrote:Oprah asked her, so it the title just because that’s how you get him security. And Meghan answered “no it’s his birthright.” So clearly Meghan cares about the title beyond the security piece.

Look, I couldn't care less about a title. But if my child were entitled to a title by virtue of who is other parent is but then that family was going to change the rules to deprive MY child of that title - I'm damn sure I'd have a problem with that too.

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Anonymous wrote:I also think that the baby conversation could have very easily been Charles or whoever just idly wondering - "well I wonder who the baby will look like. Do you think he will be light like Harry or dark like Meghan?"

And it's not like Meghan is very dark, either.

I still don't get what the "concern" over Archie's color would have been like. I mean he'd come out however he'd come out, nothing to be done about it.

Except that was not was asked. Revision much.

If you were there, please share with us exactly what was said!

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Anonymous wrote:Oprah asked her, so it the title just because that’s how you get him security. And Meghan answered “no it’s his birthright.” So clearly Meghan cares about the title beyond the security piece.

Look, I couldn't care less about a title. But if my child were entitled to a title by virtue of who is other parent is but then that family was going to change the rules to deprive MY child of that title - I'm damn sure I'd have a problem with that too.

That was her point. Why did they do that?

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone find the whole story about therapy really, really weird? It's well known (at least here in the UK), that Charles pushed Diana to go to therapy, that William and Harry went to therapy after their mother passed (they've both spoken publicly about this), that Kate went to therapy with her brother when he was very depressed. Meghan said that she told everyone and no one was willing to help. Harry then said he told no one, not even his family. She couldn't have called up her OBGYN to ask for a referral? A private doctor? Harry's therapist? It makes no sense to me.

This is a really good point!

Maybe they know how to support therapy but not immediate emergency suicide needs?
Maybe Harry and Meghan’s closest team members (whoever she emailed?) felt vulnerable to the info getting out?
Maybe because it came by email they didn’t think it was so urgent? I’m not sure what happened, but you do raise some good questions.

I mean, Harry said he was ashamed (or embarrassed, I don't remember the exact word) to tell his family. What kind of man wouldn't put his wife in the car (yes, they have private cars that they can drive whenever they want) and take her to an emergency room as soon as she told him?

She's such a drama queen, no doubt all contrived to get him away from his family. She realized she wanted out at all costs, so obvious.....

Such typical sexist, misogynist crap. People hate women and people are so jealous of what other people have as if living in an expensive home or marrying in to a wealthy or famous family means you deserve abuse.

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Anonymous wrote:What about the passport and car keys thing? I have to think there's more to the story than that. Kate drives her kids to school or the pottery painting place, Meghan went to NYC twice for her baby shower and the US Open, they went on vacations outside of the country, but they took her passport away?

The RF was very pissed about the shower. She was told not to do it and they were very offended by it.

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Anonymous wrote:Oprah asked her, so it the title just because that’s how you get him security. And Meghan answered “no it’s his birthright.” So clearly Meghan cares about the title beyond the security piece.

Look, I couldn't care less about a title. But if my child were entitled to a title by virtue of who is other parent is but then that family was going to change the rules to deprive MY child of that title - I'm damn sure I'd have a problem with that too.

That was her point. Why did they do that?

They DIDN’T do it. That’s the whole point. They discussed it, but he wouldn’t even be granted the title until Charles ascended the throne (who knows when that will be) and Charles has made it clear he intended to streamline things anyways. So this is all much ado about nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:What about the passport and car keys thing? I have to think there's more to the story than that. Kate drives her kids to school or the pottery painting place, Meghan went to NYC twice for her baby shower and the US Open, they went on vacations outside of the country, but they took her passport away?

The RF was very pissed about the shower. She was told not to do it and they were very offended by it.

So they get to take her passport? Creepy.

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Anonymous wrote:They bought a $15M house - they do not live in reality. It's hard to feel sorry for anyone who has this kind of wealth and opportunity in life and still has the audacity and feel the need to have to whine to Oprah. "The family cut off our funds..... and now all we have is this other 13 million that my mom left me. And I have to pay for all of my own security plus a a $15M mortgage. How will we ever survive? And no one ever asks if I'm ok! And I just want protection and to feel safe! And can you believe our baby doesn't get a royal title? The nerve. Get real please.

Well for those on here who live in a $1million does that mean you are not living in reality. The average cost of a house in the US is $200,000, so you heifers live in fantasy land with your 1million dollar plus tear downs. Somehow that does not stop many of you from lamenting about your husbands or children not getting into UVA.

A $1 million house in a trendy area of So Cal like Montecito is a shack. $15M is huge and ostentatious. They want a public royal life without the responsibilities and thus can fund it themselves instead of crying about it like two college students who need to be supported by mom and dad.

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Anonymous wrote:They bought a $15M house - they do not live in reality. It's hard to feel sorry for anyone who has this kind of wealth and opportunity in life and still has the audacity and feel the need to have to whine to Oprah. "The family cut off our funds..... and now all we have is this other 13 million that my mom left me. And I have to pay for all of my own security plus a a $15M mortgage. How will we ever survive? And no one ever asks if I'm ok! And I just want protection and to feel safe! And can you believe our baby doesn't get a royal title? The nerve. Get real please.

Well for those on here who live in a $1million does that mean you are not living in reality. The average cost of a house in the US is $200,000, so you heifers live in fantasy land with your 1million dollar plus tear downs. Somehow that does not stop many of you from lamenting about your husbands or children not getting into UVA.

A $1 million house in a trendy area of So Cal like Montecito is a shack. $15M is huge and ostentatious. They want a public royal life without the responsibilities and thus can fund it themselves instead of crying about it like two college students who need to be supported by mom and dad.

They are funding it themselves and with his inheritance from his mom. that was explained.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't interpret it as a complaint that Archie would not be titled a prince. There are all kinds of honorary titles - duke of this or that, etc. It's all made up anyway so what's the problem? I interpreted that there was a connection between the title and security.

Yes, they clarified that about 3 times. The title confers security. Absence of title = absence of security. The most telling part is: Those are the rules; I don't make the rules, but you're the royal family. Reminds me of the bodega owner on Seinfeld who wouldn't take down the bounced check, despite owning the store.

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Anonymous wrote:What about the passport and car keys thing? I have to think there's more to the story than that. Kate drives her kids to school or the pottery painting place, Meghan went to NYC twice for her baby shower and the US Open, they went on vacations outside of the country, but they took her passport away?

The RF was very pissed about the shower. She was told not to do it and they were very offended by it.

So they get to take her passport? Creepy.

She did a lot of traveling for someone without a passport.