Billionaire heiress abducted during her Friday morning run in Memphis

[Anonymous]

Common sense is uncommon and instinct for self preservation is lacking in some.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Too late for 'what ifs'. The worst has already happened.

The history of crime against women has been such that the BF or DH is always the first suspect, even when a rich woman jogging alone in the dark in a crime ridden city gets kidnapped.

Others need to learn from this. There is zero reason to put yourself in that situation. She may have been a marathon runner but she was also a mother. She should have been more careful and been proactive about her security.

As a childless woman, my life is less valuable so I can run wherever I want.

Childless and unmarried? Yea, you can be self-centered and risky if you want — and pretend you can’t just rack miles on a treadmill or on a fitness center track.

I’m going to speak (type) slowly, because you’re clearly dim.

Distance
And
Marathon
Runners
Train
In
Real
Life
Road
Conditions
Not
On
Treadmills
Or
In
“Fitness
Centers.”

You’re welcome.

Why the scare quotes around fitness center? She lived right next to a D1 athletics university which offers family membership plans to use their facilities.

Can you please stop with this. The way she was training is typical for long distance runners. You can’t train in a center and it is common for serious runners to run very early in the morning to take advantage of cooler temps. Obviously it was not safe but what she was doing was not the bizarre behavior you are making out to be. We put ourselves at risk doing all kinds of things, even getting in the car and driving. It is not common to be murdered. This is a tragedy, please stop going on about treadmills. NP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Common sense is uncommon and instinct for self preservation is lacking in some.

Something is seriously wrong with you. If you need to snark somewhere, go snark on a thread about potty training or private schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where are all the posters that swore up and down that the husband was guilty one?

More information came to light. Everyone switched gears. What do you think happened? Nobody is doubling down on their initial instinct.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes it’s true that white blonde women get much more media attention and disproportionate law enforcement attention when they go missing and/or are murdered.

The fundamental lesson in Eliza Fletcher’s death is that even being a ‘billionaire heiress’ doesn’t make one immune to male violence against women, which is epidemic in human society.

Eliza didn’t die because she jogged at 4:30am. This monster could have perpetrated the very same abduction with the same results at 4:30 in the afternoon. Another story of a woman and child abducted in Memphis in broad daylight has been running in the media along with this one.

Eliza is not responsible for her abduction and horrific murder. Only her kidnapper/murderer is responsible.

Reading this thread and all the victim blaming from other women has sickened me. No wonder we make so little progress in the fight against misogyny. Women are raising the men who rape and murder women. How many women here would defend a son against sexual harassment or assault allegations by talking about the slutty way the girl was dressed and how she drank so much at the party?

RIP Eliza. I’m sorry you lived in a society with so many women who hate other women and get some kind of twisted satisfaction when a woman is killed who isn’t them.

Victim blaming? Sometimes a bad idea has consequences. Running through Memphis at 4AM without a gun is not wise.

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No one is victim blaming a woman who is probably dead. We are just saying that her choices made her an easier target. Nothing else. No victim blaming. No victim shaming. Just a cautionary tale for all of us. Some of us will heed this, some won't. It will still impact all of us, how we live, what we think, what we will fear.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes it’s true that white blonde women get much more media attention and disproportionate law enforcement attention when they go missing and/or are murdered.

The fundamental lesson in Eliza Fletcher’s death is that even being a ‘billionaire heiress’ doesn’t make one immune to male violence against women, which is epidemic in human society.

Eliza didn’t die because she jogged at 4:30am. This monster could have perpetrated the very same abduction with the same results at 4:30 in the afternoon. Another story of a woman and child abducted in Memphis in broad daylight has been running in the media along with this one.

Eliza is not responsible for her abduction and horrific murder. Only her kidnapper/murderer is responsible.

Reading this thread and all the victim blaming from other women has sickened me. No wonder we make so little progress in the fight against misogyny. Women are raising the men who rape and murder women. How many women here would defend a son against sexual harassment or assault allegations by talking about the slutty way the girl was dressed and how she drank so much at the party?

RIP Eliza. I’m sorry you lived in a society with so many women who hate other women and get some kind of twisted satisfaction when a woman is killed who isn’t them.

Female misogynists are created by the patriarchy. They too are terrified of male violence, so they cling to things like the victim’s clothing or behavior to convince themselves that it won’t happen to them. They’re relieved when another woman is raped or murdered because they know it’s inevitable, and it’s another day that the victim isn’t them. It’s absolutely tragic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes it’s true that white blonde women get much more media attention and disproportionate law enforcement attention when they go missing and/or are murdered.

The fundamental lesson in Eliza Fletcher’s death is that even being a ‘billionaire heiress’ doesn’t make one immune to male violence against women, which is epidemic in human society.

Eliza didn’t die because she jogged at 4:30am. This monster could have perpetrated the very same abduction with the same results at 4:30 in the afternoon. Another story of a woman and child abducted in Memphis in broad daylight has been running in the media along with this one.

Eliza is not responsible for her abduction and horrific murder. Only her kidnapper/murderer is responsible.

Reading this thread and all the victim blaming from other women has sickened me. No wonder we make so little progress in the fight against misogyny. Women are raising the men who rape and murder women. How many women here would defend a son against sexual harassment or assault allegations by talking about the slutty way the girl was dressed and how she drank so much at the party?

RIP Eliza. I’m sorry you lived in a society with so many women who hate other women and get some kind of twisted satisfaction when a woman is killed who isn’t them.

Victim blaming? Sometimes a bad idea has consequences. Running through Memphis at 4AM without a gun is not wise.

+1
No one is victim blaming a woman who is probably dead. We are just saying that her choices made her an easier target. Nothing else. No victim blaming. No victim shaming. Just a cautionary tale for all of us. Some of us will heed this, some won't. It will still impact all of us, how we live, what we think, what we will fear.

It’s been said over and over and over again. On page 58 it’s nothing new.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where are all the posters that swore up and down that the husband was guilty one?

More information came to light. Everyone switched gears. What do you think happened? Nobody is doubling down on their initial instinct.

I guess it was too much trouble to wait before rushing to judgment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes it’s true that white blonde women get much more media attention and disproportionate law enforcement attention when they go missing and/or are murdered.

The fundamental lesson in Eliza Fletcher’s death is that even being a ‘billionaire heiress’ doesn’t make one immune to male violence against women, which is epidemic in human society.

Eliza didn’t die because she jogged at 4:30am. This monster could have perpetrated the very same abduction with the same results at 4:30 in the afternoon. Another story of a woman and child abducted in Memphis in broad daylight has been running in the media along with this one.

Eliza is not responsible for her abduction and horrific murder. Only her kidnapper/murderer is responsible.

Reading this thread and all the victim blaming from other women has sickened me. No wonder we make so little progress in the fight against misogyny. Women are raising the men who rape and murder women. How many women here would defend a son against sexual harassment or assault allegations by talking about the slutty way the girl was dressed and how she drank so much at the party?

RIP Eliza. I’m sorry you lived in a society with so many women who hate other women and get some kind of twisted satisfaction when a woman is killed who isn’t them.

Female misogynists are created by the patriarchy. They too are terrified of male violence, so they cling to things like the victim’s clothing or behavior to convince themselves that it won’t happen to them. They’re relieved when another woman is raped or murdered because they know it’s inevitable, and it’s another day that the victim isn’t them. It’s absolutely tragic.

The ugly truth

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where are all the posters that swore up and down that the husband was guilty one?

More information came to light. Everyone switched gears. What do you think happened? Nobody is doubling down on their initial instinct.

I guess it was too much trouble to wait before rushing to judgment.

Yeah. Because that’s how this site works. Guess you're new here. But at least those people aren’t harping on the victim, her appearance, her job, smile, running attire, home, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where are all the posters that swore up and down that the husband was guilty one?

More information came to light. Everyone switched gears. What do you think happened? Nobody is doubling down on their initial instinct.

I guess it was too much trouble to wait before rushing to judgment.

Yeah. Because that’s how this site works. Guess you're new here. But at least those people aren’t harping on the victim, her appearance, her job, smile, running attire, home, etc.

You must be new here if you believe that.

[Anonymous]

Train with several people. That is a safe way to train.

The university's cross country girls team was also training and may have come across this creep. But since they were not alone he did not abduct one of them.

Opportunistic criminal. Eliza Fletcher was an easy prey for him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where are all the posters that swore up and down that the husband was guilty one?

More information came to light. Everyone switched gears. What do you think happened? Nobody is doubling down on their initial instinct.

I guess it was too much trouble to wait before rushing to judgment.

Yeah. Because that’s how this site works. Guess you're new here. But at least those people aren’t harping on the victim, her appearance, her job, smile, running attire, home, etc.

You must be new here if you believe that.

Judgment is ok but only if i personally believe it. Is that the lesson?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where are all the posters that swore up and down that the husband was guilty one?

More information came to light. Everyone switched gears. What do you think happened? Nobody is doubling down on their initial instinct.

I guess it was too much trouble to wait before rushing to judgment.

Yeah. Because that’s how this site works. Guess you're new here. But at least those people aren’t harping on the victim, her appearance, her job, smile, running attire, home, etc.

You must be new here if you believe that.

Judgment is ok but only if i personally believe it. Is that the lesson?

Don’t jump to conclusions that make you look like an idiot is the lesson.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where are all the posters that swore up and down that the husband was guilty one?

More information came to light. Everyone switched gears. What do you think happened? Nobody is doubling down on their initial instinct.

I guess it was too much trouble to wait before rushing to judgment.

Yeah. Because that’s how this site works. Guess you're new here. But at least those people aren’t harping on the victim, her appearance, her job, smile, running attire, home, etc.

You must be new here if you believe that.

Judgment is ok but only if i personally believe it. Is that the lesson?

Don’t jump to conclusions that make you look like an idiot is the lesson.

You do know that the biggest risk to women is their boyfriends and partners, right? Not marathon training.