Lochte Robbery Story: True or False

[Anonymous]

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Facts Matter.

The latest reports (e.g., today's USA Today) indicate that even Brazilian judges haven't ruled out whether the security guards might have committed robbery. Also, long-time Brazilian lawyers have said that they are not sure there was a legitimate basis for the potential false testimony charge.

But, yes, he is white and American and male, etc. So maybe facts don't matter?

No, because he is white and American, his defenders feel that his actions were justified.

If he really thinks he has a valid defense then let him go to Rio and face justice there ........ but then the Brazilian lawyers and judges you have cited will of course be suspect and incapable of rendering justice objectively!

Meh. I think he's faced enough justice.

I live in DC. If I call the police because someone peed outside and tore a poster, the police would laugh at me. But maybe Rio's got their crime under control more than we do here.

Probably not though.

Perhaps, you should tweet to Lochte that he is free to urinate in public in DC and tear a poster when he next gets intoxicated and he will get away with it.

Huh? Why would I do that?? I don't think that behavior is good or well advised.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What I don't understand why people are defending this guy? There are others in the Olympic team who are truly deserving of praise and have done the country proud.

Lochte is a blot on American athletes who excel in their sport and enhance the reputation of the US. The guy is 32 years old and is just an arrogant, self-absorbed jerk.

We are defending the rights of both rich Americans and regular non-rich Americans to go to Rio without being subject to shakedowns at gunpoint. Or shakedowns involving confiscated passports.

There were lots of athletes who competed and were excellent ambassadors of the US. These are not mutually exclusive concepts.

When you go to a foreign country you follow the laws of that country. You don't expect American standards of jurisprudence to be operative. Now if that is not acceptable then don't leave the US.

Even in the US, if the authorities believe that someone who is involved in criminal conduct is likely to leave the country, they confiscate the passport.

We tell foreigners who come to the US whether as visitors or to stay for any length of time that they are expected to comply with our laws - and rightly so. What makes Americans think that they can go to a foreign country and not obey their laws?

It is this hypocrisy and sense of self-entitlement that gives Americans a bad name.

Er, no, I was referring to Feigen's "charitable donation" in order to get his passport back. While special pleas and charitable donations are perfectly legal in Brazil, it's unlikely that he did anything warranting such a special plea. A Brazilian judge has admitted that the Americans may well have been robbed by the security guards, and a Brazilian lawyer has stated that the actions of Lochte and Feigen did not constitute the filing of a false police report as defined under Brazilian law. IOW, we expect that Americans be subject to the laws of the host country, not to shakedowns.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/rio-2016/2016/08/21/investigation-ryan-lochte-rio-olympics-authorities/89082232/

And the same judge who ordered the confiscation of his passport wanted the penalty to be four times a large as he paid but by then Feigen had left the country. But I guess this Brazilian judge's view does not count among those who felt that a crime had been committed.

According to this article (it's the Daily Mail, so questionable), there were multiple judges involved who did seem to view events differently, since one allowed Feigen to leave the country and the other attempted to stop him from doing so.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3750940/Olympic-judge-tries-QUADRUPLE-fine-shamed-swimmer-Jimmy-Feigen-left-Brazil.html

[Anonymous]

Lochte got off light compared to this guy:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3753378/North-Carolina-state-trooper-shoots-dead-deaf-mute-man.html

But then it probably would never have happened to Lochte for obvious reasons.

[Anonymous]

Saw this earlier -- Why is it okay that Hillary lied about being under gun fire but not locate?

[Anonymous]

I hadn't even heard about this before. Apparently the Australians were using some fake tickets to watch the games and were all arrested, their passports confiscated. After a kindly donor paid Brazil $36,000, they are all free to leave the country now.

The Brazilian police interviewed Palmer, the Australian swimmer who was robbed, but after a 6 hour interrogation, decided there was nothing they could charge him with and he too is leaving the country.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/olympics-2016/australian-athletes-have-been-arrested-in-rio-for-alleged-tampering-with-accreditation/news-story/2864748006572ccaa0eb1009c264e66b

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/aug/22/australias-rio-nine-free-to-go-after-fine-paid-by-local-tv-producer

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you people saying he is answering to his mom and that's why he and all his buddies made up a robbery actually know who Ryan Lochte is? He is a grown man in his 30s. He is not one of the 14 year old Chinese gymnasts.

The other three didn't make up the story, only Lochte. One of them did lie and said he was asleep so he didn't have to rat out Lochte and the other two didn't say anything and all four people say Lochte was the only person to do any damage (and that was to a poster) Why are the other three continued to being bad mouthed by the press.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The hate here is amazing. Ever been robbed at gunpoint? Having some crazy security dude swinging his gun around ? Brazil should be apologizing to Lotche.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do you people saying he is answering to his mom and that's why he and all his buddies made up a robbery actually know who Ryan Lochte is? He is a grown man in his 30s. He is not one of the 14 year old Chinese gymnasts.

The other three didn't make up the story, only Lochte. One of them did lie and said he was asleep so he didn't have to rat out Lochte and the other two didn't say anything and all four people say Lochte was the only person to do any damage (and that was to a poster) Why are the other three continued to being bad mouthed by the press.

Well, I don't think any of them should be dragged.

How many of you really think we'd be throwing this guy under the bus if he were a minority?

[Anonymous]

A life time ban from competition sounds like fair punishment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A life time ban from competition sounds like fair punishment.

A lifetime ban on tourism to Rio sounds like a good idea. An absurd country, trying to get as much money out of the Olympians as possible (not just the US athletes).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do you people saying he is answering to his mom and that's why he and all his buddies made up a robbery actually know who Ryan Lochte is? He is a grown man in his 30s. He is not one of the 14 year old Chinese gymnasts.

The other three didn't make up the story, only Lochte. One of them did lie and said he was asleep so he didn't have to rat out Lochte and the other two didn't say anything and all four people say Lochte was the only person to do any damage (and that was to a poster) Why are the other three continued to being bad mouthed by the press.

Well, I don't think any of them should be dragged.

How many of you really think we'd be throwing this guy under the bus if he were a minority?

If he were a minority and he was shot by the Brazilian security guards, Lochte's defenders here would be hailing the Brazilians for not pussy-footing around

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The hate here is amazing. Ever been robbed at gunpoint? Having some crazy security dude swinging his gun around ? Brazil should be apologizing to Lotche.

+1

Hypothesis:Most of the irrational haters are white people who are really jealous. (That's why they mention for the millionth time how dumb he is.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Saw this earlier -- Why is it okay that Hillary lied about being under gun fire but not locate?

take your meds

[Anonymous]

Will Trump call him "lyin' Lochte"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Do you people saying he is answering to his mom and that's why he and all his buddies made up a robbery actually know who Ryan Lochte is? He is a grown man in his 30s. He is not one of the 14 year old Chinese gymnasts.

The other three didn't make up the story, only Lochte. One of them did lie and said he was asleep so he didn't have to rat out Lochte and the other two didn't say anything and all four people say Lochte was the only person to do any damage (and that was to a poster) Why are the other three continued to being bad mouthed by the press.

Well, I don't think any of them should be dragged.

How many of you really think we'd be throwing this guy under the bus if he were a minority?

If he were a minority and he was shot by the Brazilian security guards, Lochte's defenders here would be hailing the Brazilians for not pussy-footing around

No. Just no. I'm sorry that you have such a skewed view of America.