Homeless Man Killed by Fellow Passenger on NYC Subway

[Anonymous]

Defense fund is up to 650k - great news!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All these people thinking that Mr. Neely's behavior didn't warrant concern: Would you be willing to be locked in a room with someone behaving like Mr. Neely? Would you be willing to lock YOUR CHILD in a room with Mr. Neely?

Nobody was locked in a room. Everybody has the opportunity to leave the car.

I actually wouldn’t feel safe being locked in a room with you, can I kill you if I see you?

NP
You are delusional. There is no rational conversation to be had here.

NP. No, they’re quite right. The article I read said most people left the car. And if you watch the video you’ll see there are very few people remaining in the car at the time of the chokehold.

Neely wasn’t a threat as the chokehold went on, yet the Marine continued exerting his will. It was about power.

Any funeral director or minister can tell you what would have happened if a person of color had intervened to break the chokehold and team up to secure Neely. HINT—the intervener would be getting the funeral.

Now imagine if a WHITE bystander had intervened. Maybe stepping in to hold Newley’s arms so the Marine would feel safe relenting. Or perhaps striking the Marine to get him to break the chokehold.

That would be an affront to White solidarity. A betrayal of the bargain that if you let the protector use deadly force against a black “threat”, the protector won’t turn in fury on you.

Because that Marine or the arriving police most certainly would have turned on you White person if you had intervened against a white hero to save a Black man. And you would rightfully be desperate to save your own life against their rage, their retribution for your betrayal.

So no, people were not going to be intervening to save Neely from the chokehold. And I highly doubt the Marine will be convicted for anything arising from his actions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these people thinking that Mr. Neely's behavior didn't warrant concern: Would you be willing to be locked in a room with someone behaving like Mr. Neely? Would you be willing to lock YOUR CHILD in a room with Mr. Neely?

Nobody was locked in a room. Everybody has the opportunity to leave the car.

I actually wouldn’t feel safe being locked in a room with you, can I kill you if I see you?

NP
You are delusional. There is no rational conversation to be had here.

NP. No, they’re quite right. The article I read said most people left the car. And if you watch the video you’ll see there are very few people remaining in the car at the time of the chokehold.

Neely wasn’t a threat as the chokehold went on, yet the Marine continued exerting his will. It was about power.

Any funeral director or minister can tell you what would have happened if a person of color had intervened to break the chokehold and team up to secure Neely. HINT—the intervener would be getting the funeral.

Now imagine if a WHITE bystander had intervened. Maybe stepping in to hold Newley’s arms so the Marine would feel safe relenting. Or perhaps striking the Marine to get him to break the chokehold.

That would be an affront to White solidarity. A betrayal of the bargain that if you let the protector use deadly force against a black “threat”, the protector won’t turn in fury on you.

Because that Marine or the arriving police most certainly would have turned on you White person if you had intervened against a white hero to save a Black man. And you would rightfully be desperate to save your own life against their rage, their retribution for your betrayal.

So no, people were not going to be intervening to save Neely from the chokehold. And I highly doubt the Marine will be convicted for anything arising from his actions.

Ugh. This post, just ugh.

[Anonymous]

Not exactly sure what is going on here, but people deserve to ride the subway without having to deal with unstable people making a scene. As a woman who frequently travels alone, I'm tired of being made to feel unsafe and constantly on edge due to this type of behavior.

That being said, it sounds like this person suffered from mental health issues and it's too bad he did not get the help he needed before it got to this point.

[Anonymous]

Was he under the influence of anything at the time and could that have contributed to the outcome?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Was he under the influence of anything at the time and could that have contributed to the outcome?

We don't know yet and yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Was he under the influence of anything at the time and could that have contributed to the outcome?

Irrelevant

[Anonymous]

How long after the homeless guy went unconscious did the marine let go of the choke hold?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Defense fund is up to 650k - great news!

Thank you for updating us!

[Anonymous]

Penny’s fundraiser: $767k
Neely’s fundraiser: $61k

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not exactly sure what is going on here, but people deserve to ride the subway without having to deal with unstable people making a scene. As a woman who frequently travels alone, I'm tired of being made to feel unsafe and constantly on edge due to this type of behavior.

That being said, it sounds like this person suffered from mental health issues and it's too bad he did not get the help he needed before it got to this point.

This. I’m so sick and tired of dangerous and mentally ill men. What’s wrong with their gender?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not exactly sure what is going on here, but people deserve to ride the subway without having to deal with unstable people making a scene. As a woman who frequently travels alone, I'm tired of being made to feel unsafe and constantly on edge due to this type of behavior.

That being said, it sounds like this person suffered from mental health issues and it's too bad he did not get the help he needed before it got to this point.

This. I’m so sick and tired of dangerous and mentally ill men. What’s wrong with their gender?

As a man, trust me, there are plenty of us that feel that dangerous people should be put to sleep.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not exactly sure what is going on here, but people deserve to ride the subway without having to deal with unstable people making a scene. As a woman who frequently travels alone, I'm tired of being made to feel unsafe and constantly on edge due to this type of behavior.

That being said, it sounds like this person suffered from mental health issues and it's too bad he did not get the help he needed before it got to this point.

This. I’m so sick and tired of dangerous and mentally ill men. What’s wrong with their gender?

As a man, trust me, there are plenty of us that feel that dangerous people should be put to sleep.

Ah yes, we are at that part of the thread where people start advocating for Zyklon B. Do you even hear yourself?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Was he under the influence of anything at the time and could that have contributed to the outcome?

Which person? You could ask that question about either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Penny’s fundraiser: $767k
Neely’s fundraiser: $61k

Not even close to Rittenhouse