Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot

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Frank Bruni's op ed.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/12/opinion/college-bribery-admissions.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

It may be legal to pledge $2.5 million to Harvard just as your son is applying — which is what Jared Kushner’s father did for him — and illegal to bribe a coach to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars, but how much of a difference is there, really? Both elevate money over accomplishment. Both are ways of cutting in line.

It may be legal to give $50,000 to a private consultant who massages your child’s transcript and perfumes your child’s essays, and illegal to pay someone for a patently fictive test score, but aren’t both exercises in deception reserved for those who can afford them?

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Georgetown SFS is currently educating Princess Iman of Jordan after previously graduating her brother, Crown Prince Hussein. I have zero issue with letting rich people like that in through no admissions process at all, even though SFS is fiercely competitive. These are people who are or will be in hereditary positions of massive influence--the Jordanian throne has a tremendous amount of power over the lives of millions of people and is a key regional ally of the US and a serious player in the war on terror. Hussein is going to be in control of an army and has already chaired UN Security Council meetings even though he's only 24. It is in the global and national interest for someone like that to receive the best education possible and try to force knowledge into their heads even if they are incredible morons--Hussein can go where he likes, and if he takes some other kid's slot, well, too bad. The Middle East tinderbox may thank you later for your sacrifice.

Felicity Huffman's kids? Bleh. Not rich enough to buy their way in the "honorable" way with a building donation or scholarship fund that could at least benefit others, and not important enough to be let in based on influence. Just cheating poseurs. This story is both infuriating and hilarious.

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Anonymous wrote:The best form of reparations would mean making top 25 private instutions only open to blacks and urms (tuition and boarding free) while forcing whites to go to state schools.

It gives blacks a larger pool of 'leadership class' and accelerates more of them into the top 5% while also giving incentives to umc whites to vote to raise taxes to fund public secondary and tertiary education more since now they are more likeyl to go there.

Not the way affirmative action is being done today where professional black families are getting the benefit. I say economic affirmative action is what is needed -poverty knows no race - help every kid that needs it

Yes, affirmative action is terrible unless whites can benefit. A principled stance.

Professional black families? You mean the ones that are working their way up the past few generations of poor racial inequality from the previous generations that came from slavery. How dare they? Why should they have any benefits? Geez. Only whites from enherited riches of past generations should get benefits. Working professionals of color? They are lucky they have a job, right PP. Those poor white kids with meth parents deserve it more because they are white and poor. I mean, do you reread what you type?

Talk about being in a state of cognitive dissonance.

DP: are you on meth?

No, I am a while woman that is not a racist. I am a white woman who is going to do everything in my lifetime to make any minority try and feel welcomed and equal in my presence and call out people that don’t do the same. I am a white woman who knows I have privilege in this world JUST because I was born white. Is it my fault I am white? No. Are minorities upset that I am white? No. Is it my duty to understand that being white comes with privilege that others do not have yet, even in 2019? Yes. Are minorities upset that white people don’t understand their own privilege? Yes. Are minorities upset that they feel left alone to battle for their rights and never understood by most whites who claim they are not racist? Yes.

It is not enough to just not be racist anymore. It is 2019 people. We need to do more. Just like people of wealth are supposed to help the poor, but really don’t want to. “I enherited or earned that money!” So They usually pay more wealthy lawyers and accountants to rig it so they don’t pay much taxes. Most white people dont want to fight for equality and justice, because they already have it and try to rationalize that black people have it now too. They don’t and it can’t just be them fighting for themselves. They need allies. People that are cognitively aware. Are white people nervous when their son is walking on a street or driving a car? Probably not. But every single black mother is. “Professional or not” Could you imagine that fear? I honestly can not. But I try. I try to understand. That is all most black people are asking. I mean like that is it. It isn’t much, but yet most white people can not do it. It is really sad once you “wake up.”

And for you entitled whites here screaming about “affirmative action is not fair” are just ignorant. So ignorant. I am not racist but.... NO, you ARE. You are somehow turning it around that it is not fair for you. YOU. Instead of thinking this is the least we can do and even (gasp) How can I do more?

So sorry, not on meth. Just trying to be a nice educated person who wants to use her privilege as a positive to help others. And if it means going on a rant here instead of watching This Is Us - and going all off topic, so be it. It just really bothers me that there are people out there that have somehow turned this entitled, white, rich ILLEGAL issue into a minority LEGAL issue. Only in America, sadly.

Excellent post, but you already know it will fall on deaf ears. Whites are financially, emotionally and culturally invested in white supremacy. The #1 lie of white supremacy is that whites are naturally meritorious.

The #1 lie is that there is a white supremacy I clearly missed that memo somehow.

What we have seen here is that mostly (but not all) white parents are simply trying to buy their kiddos into better colleges than they otherwise would have gotten into and did so not because they thought they were special because they were white but because they were stupid parents with stupid kids. Unless you can convincingly show that these parents were cackling and boasting about riding roughshod over downtrodden African Americans, there was no "white supremacy" going on here. The spots their kids took didn't come from minority candidates because all the colleges have their fixed percentage goals for minorities/international students. The spots were taken away from unconnected middle class white kids.

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Anonymous wrote:OMG they perp-snatched Felicity Hoffman. And she DID KNOW ABOUT IT!!!

Sources familiar with the arrest claim that the agents drew their weapons and ordered Felicity to come out of her house and surrender. Huffman and the rest of her family were asleep when the agents showed up.

Those close to the actress say she knew her arrest was imminent and would have surrendered on her own, but the feds didn't want to wait. FBI insiders told TMZ guns were "drawn as a precaution. It's always left to the agents' discretion whether to draw a firearm during an arrest."

https://kfyi.iheart.com/content/2019-03-12-actress-felicity-huffman-arrested-by-fbi-agents-with-guns-drawn/

Bond set at $250,000 for her.

Mossimo Giannulli (Lori Loughlin's husband) bond set at $1,000,000!

Good. These people think they above the law.

I know that the next crop of celebrities will be thinking twice about bribery for their no-talent offspring to get into good schools.

Courtney Cox has a 14-year-old and I'm pretty sure she'll be telling her straight to her face - get the grades or you're going to community college because I'm not going to jail for you.

This case is about more than just Hoffman and Loughlin, its about setting an example.

Not quite a mugshot but they're all looking frazzled. Imagine that celebrities look like normal humans when they don't have 5 days and 10 assistants to prep them for a red carpet.

Felicity Huffman


Mossimo Giannulli

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My daughter is at USC (full tuition scholarship). Coincidentally, she lives down the hall from Loughlin’s daughter.

I am concerned VERY concerned about the value of her USC degree doing down. This makes the school look like it’s pay to play and the only thing that matters is money.

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Anonymous wrote:The best form of reparations would mean making top 25 private instutions only open to blacks and urms (tuition and boarding free) while forcing whites to go to state schools.

It gives blacks a larger pool of 'leadership class' and accelerates more of them into the top 5% while also giving incentives to umc whites to vote to raise taxes to fund public secondary and tertiary education more since now they are more likeyl to go there.

Not the way affirmative action is being done today where professional black families are getting the benefit. I say economic affirmative action is what is needed -poverty knows no race - help every kid that needs it

Yes, affirmative action is terrible unless whites can benefit. A principled stance.

Professional black families? You mean the ones that are working their way up the past few generations of poor racial inequality from the previous generations that came from slavery. How dare they? Why should they have any benefits? Geez. Only whites from enherited riches of past generations should get benefits. Working professionals of color? They are lucky they have a job, right PP. Those poor white kids with meth parents deserve it more because they are white and poor. I mean, do you reread what you type?

Talk about being in a state of cognitive dissonance.

DP: are you on meth?

No, I am a while woman that is not a racist. I am a white woman who is going to do everything in my lifetime to make any minority try and feel welcomed and equal in my presence and call out people that don’t do the same. I am a white woman who knows I have privilege in this world JUST because I was born white. Is it my fault I am white? No. Are minorities upset that I am white? No. Is it my duty to understand that being white comes with privilege that others do not have yet, even in 2019? Yes. Are minorities upset that white people don’t understand their own privilege? Yes. Are minorities upset that they feel left alone to battle for their rights and never understood by most whites who claim they are not racist? Yes.

It is not enough to just not be racist anymore. It is 2019 people. We need to do more. Just like people of wealth are supposed to help the poor, but really don’t want to. “I enherited or earned that money!” So They usually pay more wealthy lawyers and accountants to rig it so they don’t pay much taxes. Most white people dont want to fight for equality and justice, because they already have it and try to rationalize that black people have it now too. They don’t and it can’t just be them fighting for themselves. They need allies. People that are cognitively aware. Are white people nervous when their son is walking on a street or driving a car? Probably not. But every single black mother is. “Professional or not” Could you imagine that fear? I honestly can not. But I try. I try to understand. That is all most black people are asking. I mean like that is it. It isn’t much, but yet most white people can not do it. It is really sad once you “wake up.”

And for you entitled whites here screaming about “affirmative action is not fair” are just ignorant. So ignorant. I am not racist but.... NO, you ARE. You are somehow turning it around that it is not fair for you. YOU. Instead of thinking this is the least we can do and even (gasp) How can I do more?

So sorry, not on meth. Just trying to be a nice educated person who wants to use her privilege as a positive to help others. And if it means going on a rant here instead of watching This Is Us - and going all off topic, so be it. It just really bothers me that there are people out there that have somehow turned this entitled, white, rich ILLEGAL issue into a minority LEGAL issue. Only in America, sadly.

No, I grew up where people were discriminated based on color of their skin and affirmative action was used to right a wrong but instead created an entitled generation and did not help those who really needed it, the poor. Unless you know what it feels like to be discriminated against and can’t get a helping hand to break out of the poverty cycle because most people of your race were rich (not my family), you don’t know what it is like. We are not numbers - we are individuals. I am all for economic diversity. The rich Hispanic or black families do not need a helping hand - a kid of ANY race who is poor and need help to break out of poverty and be exposed to another world needs our help.

Sigh, You just don’t get it. Ignorance. Rationales. It just fuels hate and jealousy.

Pell grants are for the poor. Many need blind schools are for the poor. No one is denying poor kids who thrive an education.

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Anonymous wrote:Right, that’s the same. Lord you’re dumb.

They are comparable because weight loss through diet/exercise is something that you actually have to work for. Test prep is literally available to all students - FREE - through Kahn Academy. Some students take advantage of it, some don't.

Cheating is not the same thing as test prep.

If Kahn Academy test prep is equivalent, why are people paying so much for private test prep and tutors?

EXACTLY.

Kahn is studying.

Personal test prep are the secrets, the curveballs, etc... It is not learning. It is promising exults because they study pattens in previous tests, teach kids how to figure out standardized test questions, how to skim the passages, and so forth. It is a temporary ability to get a temporary smart looking score. And now that many colleges subscore, kids can take it 4 times and only focus on one section. They can get three 10’s and a 35 each time on a separate session and get a super score of 35. Most people can’t afford taking it once, let alone 4 times.

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Tip of the iceberg baby! Bring it on. Where is my popcorn?

https://www.tmz.com/2019/03/13/college-bribery-scandal-triggers-nervous-rich-parents-usc/

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Anonymous wrote:Tip of the iceberg baby! Bring it on. Where is my popcorn?

https://www.tmz.com/2019/03/13/college-bribery-scandal-triggers-nervous-rich-parents-usc/

*evil laugh*

Sources familiar with the case tell TMZ, FBI agents have seized numerous cell phones and other evidence they believe will lead them to other parents, college employees and others who might have participated in admissions bribery.

We know a number of wealthy parents from some of the most exclusive private schools in L.A. were calling around Tuesday, asking if Rick Singer, the ringleader who just copped a plea, kept lists of clients. As one source put it, "These parents are sweating bullets."

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter is at USC (full tuition scholarship). Coincidentally, she lives down the hall from Loughlin’s daughter.

I am concerned VERY concerned about the value of her USC degree doing down. This makes the school look like it’s pay to play and the only thing that matters is money.

Sure does.

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Rich entitled white people seem to be having a nervous breakdown. B-b-b-but affirmative action. B-b-but “great schools”. B-b-but NNAT prep....

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Anonymous wrote:The best form of reparations would mean making top 25 private instutions only open to blacks and urms (tuition and boarding free) while forcing whites to go to state schools.

It gives blacks a larger pool of 'leadership class' and accelerates more of them into the top 5% while also giving incentives to umc whites to vote to raise taxes to fund public secondary and tertiary education more since now they are more likeyl to go there.

Not the way affirmative action is being done today where professional black families are getting the benefit. I say economic affirmative action is what is needed -poverty knows no race - help every kid that needs it

Yes, affirmative action is terrible unless whites can benefit. A principled stance.

Professional black families? You mean the ones that are working their way up the past few generations of poor racial inequality from the previous generations that came from slavery. How dare they? Why should they have any benefits? Geez. Only whites from enherited riches of past generations should get benefits. Working professionals of color? They are lucky they have a job, right PP. Those poor white kids with meth parents deserve it more because they are white and poor. I mean, do you reread what you type?

Talk about being in a state of cognitive dissonance.

DP: are you on meth?

No, I am a while woman that is not a racist. I am a white woman who is going to do everything in my lifetime to make any minority try and feel welcomed and equal in my presence and call out people that don’t do the same. I am a white woman who knows I have privilege in this world JUST because I was born white. Is it my fault I am white? No. Are minorities upset that I am white? No. Is it my duty to understand that being white comes with privilege that others do not have yet, even in 2019? Yes. Are minorities upset that white people don’t understand their own privilege? Yes. Are minorities upset that they feel left alone to battle for their rights and never understood by most whites who claim they are not racist? Yes.

It is not enough to just not be racist anymore. It is 2019 people. We need to do more. Just like people of wealth are supposed to help the poor, but really don’t want to. “I enherited or earned that money!” So They usually pay more wealthy lawyers and accountants to rig it so they don’t pay much taxes. Most white people dont want to fight for equality and justice, because they already have it and try to rationalize that black people have it now too. They don’t and it can’t just be them fighting for themselves. They need allies. People that are cognitively aware. Are white people nervous when their son is walking on a street or driving a car? Probably not. But every single black mother is. “Professional or not” Could you imagine that fear? I honestly can not. But I try. I try to understand. That is all most black people are asking. I mean like that is it. It isn’t much, but yet most white people can not do it. It is really sad once you “wake up.”

And for you entitled whites here screaming about “affirmative action is not fair” are just ignorant. So ignorant. I am not racist but.... NO, you ARE. You are somehow turning it around that it is not fair for you. YOU. Instead of thinking this is the least we can do and even (gasp) How can I do more?

So sorry, not on meth. Just trying to be a nice educated person who wants to use her privilege as a positive to help others. And if it means going on a rant here instead of watching This Is Us - and going all off topic, so be it. It just really bothers me that there are people out there that have somehow turned this entitled, white, rich ILLEGAL issue into a minority LEGAL issue. Only in America, sadly.

No, I grew up where people were discriminated based on color of their skin and affirmative action was used to right a wrong but instead created an entitled generation and did not help those who really needed it, the poor. Unless you know what it feels like to be discriminated against and can’t get a helping hand to break out of the poverty cycle because most people of your race were rich (not my family), you don’t know what it is like. We are not numbers - we are individuals. I am all for economic diversity. The rich Hispanic or black families do not need a helping hand - a kid of ANY race who is poor and need help to break out of poverty and be exposed to another world needs our help.

Sigh, You just don’t get it. Ignorance. Rationales. It just fuels hate and jealousy.

Pell grants are for the poor. Many need blind schools are for the poor. No one is denying poor kids who thrive an education.

Well, perhaps you should think long and hard about what you may not be getting instead of blaming everything on other people. I see these posts accusing others of not "getting" it and calling them ignorant and whatever. But your own attitude is just as culpable in furling the hate and jealousy you claim exist and it's pretty clear you prefer to approach the world solely through a very narrow prism of how things ought to be rather what they really are.

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Anonymous wrote:Rich entitled white people seem to be having a nervous breakdown. B-b-b-but affirmative action. B-b-but “great schools”. B-b-but NNAT prep....

Dunno. I bet virtually all these parents would call themselves strong supporters of affirmative action (given that they're mostly Hollywood/New York liberals). All the spots their dumb kids took from others were taken from white candidates, not black candidates, so affirmative action is not at play here, one way or another.

But I think *some* angry minority people are having a nervous breakdown because this only exposes even more how college admissions is not a meritocratic process and the more clear it becomes that the expensive colleges are virtually selling seats to the higher bidder one way or another, and actually in its own way, weakens the validity of affirmative action itself because it presents it as just another form of corruption that passes for admissions. At the end of the day these schools are going to have to stop any pretense, whatsoever, that they care about meritocracy, which would be a direct contradiction to their long held missions and education values. It doesn't matter whether you're the stupid white offspring of rich and connected parents, or an AA with well below average scores and grades, you're both gaming the system in your own way, and ultimately overall weaken the integrity of the "premier" higher education in this country. There's no question that the value and prestige of degrees from fancy schools have declined as a result.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't get myself to care that much about any of this. Are there criminals in the world? Yeah. Are there dumbasses? Yeah. Is there affirmative action for rich people? Yes, way more than for any other demographic category. Is any of this new? No.

Felicity Huffman is facing federal charges for faking a 1420 on the SAT's? A 1420.

I’m be embarrassed to claim the kid who needed to cheat just to get that score as my own.

I guess I should disown my kid who only got a 1300.

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Has anyone commented on Olivia jades statement in her video that she’s contributing to travel all over the world and is going to talk to the dean and that she isn’t really into school?!? I’d love to see a recording of that conversation with the dean!!! What a dumbass