Help me understand Republican women in their 30s and 40s

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not going to convince any right wing republicans of anything, so I am just waiting for them to fool around and find out. Not sure they are going to like what's coming for them too, if a republican actually gets elected this time.

Candidly, as a Democrat I was assured that the entire country would fail if Trump became president and that objectively did not happen.

We did have a pandemic. And nationwide race riots. I dunno about you, but I didn't enjoy all that.

Tell us how Trump caused a global pandemic that originated from China.

Cause? No. Made exponentially worse because of his completely inept response? Hell yes.

Funny how none of the blindly partisan Democrats in this thread have been willing to say with any specifics how Hilary Clinton was going to stop the spread of the virus in China, India, or the rest of the world.

I am still looking forward to learning about those plans! 👍 It’s amazing how Hilary apparently had the ability to stop a global pandemic. Can’t wait to hear how!

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In other words, the exact opposite of what Trump spent his time on in 2020.

Specifics. How specifically was Hilary going to stop the spread of Covid in countries outside the US and stop a global pandemic? That’s the claim you Democrats are making. I want the exact plan that would have halted the spread of the virus. You say it exists. So share it.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not going to convince any right wing republicans of anything, so I am just waiting for them to fool around and find out. Not sure they are going to like what's coming for them too, if a republican actually gets elected this time.

Candidly, as a Democrat I was assured that the entire country would fail if Trump became president and that objectively did not happen.

We did have a pandemic. And nationwide race riots. I dunno about you, but I didn't enjoy all that.

Tell us how Trump caused a global pandemic that originated from China.

Cause? No. Made exponentially worse because of his completely inept response? Hell yes.

Funny how none of the blindly partisan Democrats in this thread have been willing to say with any specifics how Hilary Clinton was going to stop the spread of the virus in China, India, or the rest of the world.

I am still looking forward to learning about those plans! 👍 It’s amazing how Hilary apparently had the ability to stop a global pandemic. Can’t wait to hear how!

It’s been explained many times. Your faux obtuseness is not persuasive.

Trump removed the HHS monitor team from China. Had they been there, we would have known weeks earlier. We would have worked through international organizations to slow and contain the spread. Just as we did for sars and mers.

Wait, what? Do you seriously believe that the partial shuttering of a team based in the US — not China — would have halted the Covid-19 pandemic? You are insane, I’m sorry. This is absolutely delusional.

Also, even Reuters doesn’t buy what you are selling here:

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN21C32C/

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not going to convince any right wing republicans of anything, so I am just waiting for them to fool around and find out. Not sure they are going to like what's coming for them too, if a republican actually gets elected this time.

Candidly, as a Democrat I was assured that the entire country would fail if Trump became president and that objectively did not happen.

We did have a pandemic. And nationwide race riots. I dunno about you, but I didn't enjoy all that.

Tell us how Trump caused a global pandemic that originated from China.

Cause? No. Made exponentially worse because of his completely inept response? Hell yes.

Funny how none of the blindly partisan Democrats in this thread have been willing to say with any specifics how Hilary Clinton was going to stop the spread of the virus in China, India, or the rest of the world.

I am still looking forward to learning about those plans! 👍 It’s amazing how Hilary apparently had the ability to stop a global pandemic. Can’t wait to hear how!

Leadership
Expertise
Coordination
Delegation
Decisiveness
Management
Oversight
Logistics
Communication

In other words, the exact opposite of what Trump spent his time on in 2020.

Specifics. How specifically was Hilary going to stop the spread of Covid in countries outside the US and stop a global pandemic? That’s the claim you Democrats are making. I want the exact plan that would have halted the spread of the virus. You say it exists. So share it.

NP: Given that the GOP doesn't even have a platform, you may want to start fixing up your own house first before you start pointing fingers.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not going to convince any right wing republicans of anything, so I am just waiting for them to fool around and find out. Not sure they are going to like what's coming for them too, if a republican actually gets elected this time.

Candidly, as a Democrat I was assured that the entire country would fail if Trump became president and that objectively did not happen.

We did have a pandemic. And nationwide race riots. I dunno about you, but I didn't enjoy all that.

Tell us how Trump caused a global pandemic that originated from China.

Cause? No. Made exponentially worse because of his completely inept response? Hell yes.

Funny how none of the blindly partisan Democrats in this thread have been willing to say with any specifics how Hilary Clinton was going to stop the spread of the virus in China, India, or the rest of the world.

I am still looking forward to learning about those plans! 👍 It’s amazing how Hilary apparently had the ability to stop a global pandemic. Can’t wait to hear how!

Leadership
Expertise
Coordination
Delegation
Decisiveness
Management
Oversight
Logistics
Communication

In other words, the exact opposite of what Trump spent his time on in 2020.

Specifics. How specifically was Hilary going to stop the spread of Covid in countries outside the US and stop a global pandemic? That’s the claim you Democrats are making. I want the exact plan that would have halted the spread of the virus. You say it exists. So share it.

The early detection office in China that Trump closed and the pandemic playbook that was developed by W and Obama that Trump threw out. Not stealing medical equipment. Taking it seriously. Paying attention during briefings.

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Anonymous wrote:The southern Baptists are deciding this week whether people can use ivf.

Republican women: what say you?

Hunter Biden something something, border woofwoofblahblah, trans men at swim meets - the usual.

Right?! So stupidly true. They have nothing concrete so focus on ethereal concepts that threaten no one

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Anonymous wrote:10-20% of pregnancies end in a known miscarriage. That’s not including all of the early unknown miscarriages.
That’s an uncomfortably high percentage of women facing denied healthcare in their red state due to draconian abortion bans. They want to force these laws on the entire nation with a federal ban.
That’s approximately a million women every year in the US at risk due to extreme laws enacted by “pro life” republicans.
How many years is a woman fertile? How many years does she play roulette with those laws?
I agree that men identifying as women should not be housed in prisons but the entire female prison population of the United States is approximately 90,000.
When I look at risk calculus I’m more immediately concerned for my daughter’s health.

This.
Having received a life-saving inmates. abortion (methotrexate to treat an ectopic pregnancy) and conceived one of my DDs via IVF, I'm all too keenly aware of how the red-states' reactions to the overturning of RvW threatens the health and life of women. To say nothing of the current risks to availability of contraception posed by some in the GOP. Birth control pills are used by millions of women to manage and treat symptoms of conditions like PCOS, endometriosis, etc. Threats to contraception impact more than just those trying to avoid pregnancy.
I consider those far more impactful to the vast majority of women than a few trans athletes or inmates. Why should my DDs have less of a right to health care and bodily autonomy than their grandmothers??

Unless you are a Republican, this is irrelevant. This post is about the viewpoints of GOP women of a certain age, not why you feel more impacted by abortion. If you feel that way, vote Dem as you seem to do.

I'm the PP. Born and raised Republican. Considered myself "conservative" based on fiscal beliefs and support of military, but have always been more "middle of the road" on social issues (and I believe I still am).
Started voting split ticket in 2016 because I couldn't bring myself to vote for Trump. I refuse to vote for any Republican who supported the overturning of RvW, so I now consider myself independent.
The GOP is losing women like me.

It is hard to understand why the GOP has invested so much into crushing reproductive rights. There seem to be a few posters on here in favor of this position, but for the majority, it's such an extremely unpopular and repulsive position to take. Why is the GOP willing to lose so many voters over this issue that they keep arguing is not really that important?

Are you aware of what the number one issues are for voters right now? Hint, it’s not abortion. I think the more relevant question is why did Biden allow 1.3 million illegals in, in 2023 alone, given how many people list controlling the border as their number one issue?

Your otherness about “illegals” doesn’t negatively affect most people. In fact the work of “illegals” keeps agriculture, manufacturing, and much of the service industry running. Without them, prices would be higher because all of the red state whiners on federal disability won’t do those jobs.
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Native born Americans lost 300k jobs last year according to the bureau of labor statistics. Still think things are going just swimmingly and that Biden’s border mess won’t matter?

Will you please point me to the data? Thanks!

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf

Table A-7

That table doesn’t show that native-born Americans LOST their job, rather, it just says fewer were employed compared to the year before — that cou;d be for any number of reasons — namely, early retirement (which many people took after COVID) and parenthood. Non-native-born employees could represent US Citizens, or not. Your statement is very misleading.

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In the US, Women attend church more and are more religious than men . That could explain why.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not going to convince any right wing republicans of anything, so I am just waiting for them to fool around and find out. Not sure they are going to like what's coming for them too, if a republican actually gets elected this time.

Candidly, as a Democrat I was assured that the entire country would fail if Trump became president and that objectively did not happen.

We did have a pandemic. And nationwide race riots. I dunno about you, but I didn't enjoy all that.

Tell us how Trump caused a global pandemic that originated from China.

Cause? No. Made exponentially worse because of his completely inept response? Hell yes.

Funny how none of the blindly partisan Democrats in this thread have been willing to say with any specifics how Hilary Clinton was going to stop the spread of the virus in China, India, or the rest of the world.

I am still looking forward to learning about those plans! 👍 It’s amazing how Hilary apparently had the ability to stop a global pandemic. Can’t wait to hear how!

It’s been explained many times. Your faux obtuseness is not persuasive.

Trump removed the HHS monitor team from China. Had they been there, we would have known weeks earlier. We would have worked through international organizations to slow and contain the spread. Just as we did for sars and mers.

Wait, what? Do you seriously believe that the partial shuttering of a team based in the US — not China — would have halted the Covid-19 pandemic? You are insane, I’m sorry. This is absolutely delusional.

Also, even Reuters doesn’t buy what you are selling here:

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN21C32C/

Did you read the article you cited?

CONCLUSIONS
There is disagreement over how to describe the changes at the NSC’s Directorate for Global Health Security and Biodefense in 2018. The departure of some members due to “streamlining” efforts under John Bolton is documented. The “pandemic response team” as a unit was largely disbanded.
VERDICT​
Partly false: The Trump administration disbanded the “pandemic response” team, but some of the team members were reassigned to roles that included pandemic response.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not going to convince any right wing republicans of anything, so I am just waiting for them to fool around and find out. Not sure they are going to like what's coming for them too, if a republican actually gets elected this time.

Candidly, as a Democrat I was assured that the entire country would fail if Trump became president and that objectively did not happen.

We did have a pandemic. And nationwide race riots. I dunno about you, but I didn't enjoy all that.

Tell us how Trump caused a global pandemic that originated from China.

Cause? No. Made exponentially worse because of his completely inept response? Hell yes.

Funny how none of the blindly partisan Democrats in this thread have been willing to say with any specifics how Hilary Clinton was going to stop the spread of the virus in China, India, or the rest of the world.

I am still looking forward to learning about those plans! 👍 It’s amazing how Hilary apparently had the ability to stop a global pandemic. Can’t wait to hear how!

Leadership
Expertise
Coordination
Delegation
Decisiveness
Management
Oversight
Logistics
Communication

In other words, the exact opposite of what Trump spent his time on in 2020.

Specifics. How specifically was Hilary going to stop the spread of Covid in countries outside the US and stop a global pandemic? That’s the claim you Democrats are making. I want the exact plan that would have halted the spread of the virus. You say it exists. So share it.

NP: Given that the GOP doesn't even have a platform, you may want to start fixing up your own house first before you start pointing fingers.

Democrats in this thread have said that Hilary would have stopped the Covid-19 pandemic globally. They are the ones who made that claim. Are you now backing down from that claim?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not going to convince any right wing republicans of anything, so I am just waiting for them to fool around and find out. Not sure they are going to like what's coming for them too, if a republican actually gets elected this time.

Candidly, as a Democrat I was assured that the entire country would fail if Trump became president and that objectively did not happen.

We did have a pandemic. And nationwide race riots. I dunno about you, but I didn't enjoy all that.

Tell us how Trump caused a global pandemic that originated from China.

Cause? No. Made exponentially worse because of his completely inept response? Hell yes.

Funny how none of the blindly partisan Democrats in this thread have been willing to say with any specifics how Hilary Clinton was going to stop the spread of the virus in China, India, or the rest of the world.

I am still looking forward to learning about those plans! 👍 It’s amazing how Hilary apparently had the ability to stop a global pandemic. Can’t wait to hear how!

It’s been explained many times. Your faux obtuseness is not persuasive.

Trump removed the HHS monitor team from China. Had they been there, we would have known weeks earlier. We would have worked through international organizations to slow and contain the spread. Just as we did for sars and mers.

Wait, what? Do you seriously believe that the partial shuttering of a team based in the US — not China — would have halted the Covid-19 pandemic? You are insane, I’m sorry. This is absolutely delusional.

Also, even Reuters doesn’t buy what you are selling here:

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN21C32C/

Did you read the article you cited?

CONCLUSIONS
There is disagreement over how to describe the changes at the NSC’s Directorate for Global Health Security and Biodefense in 2018. The departure of some members due to “streamlining” efforts under John Bolton is documented. The “pandemic response team” as a unit was largely disbanded.
VERDICT​
Partly false: The Trump administration disbanded the “pandemic response” team, but some of the team members were reassigned to roles that included pandemic response.

Um, yes. Do you not understand what you just quoted? Maybe the problem is that you are very slow, and so are incapable of complex thought. That might explain why you apparently fervently believe that Hilary Clinton would have stopped the spread of the Covid-19 virus in China, India, and elsewhere in the world.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not going to convince any right wing republicans of anything, so I am just waiting for them to fool around and find out. Not sure they are going to like what's coming for them too, if a republican actually gets elected this time.

Candidly, as a Democrat I was assured that the entire country would fail if Trump became president and that objectively did not happen.

We did have a pandemic. And nationwide race riots. I dunno about you, but I didn't enjoy all that.

Tell us how Trump caused a global pandemic that originated from China.

Cause? No. Made exponentially worse because of his completely inept response? Hell yes.

Funny how none of the blindly partisan Democrats in this thread have been willing to say with any specifics how Hilary Clinton was going to stop the spread of the virus in China, India, or the rest of the world.

I am still looking forward to learning about those plans! 👍 It’s amazing how Hilary apparently had the ability to stop a global pandemic. Can’t wait to hear how!

Leadership
Expertise
Coordination
Delegation
Decisiveness
Management
Oversight
Logistics
Communication

In other words, the exact opposite of what Trump spent his time on in 2020.

Specifics. How specifically was Hilary going to stop the spread of Covid in countries outside the US and stop a global pandemic? That’s the claim you Democrats are making. I want the exact plan that would have halted the spread of the virus. You say it exists. So share it.

The early detection office in China that Trump closed and the pandemic playbook that was developed by W and Obama that Trump threw out. Not stealing medical equipment. Taking it seriously. Paying attention during briefings.

Delusional. Just delusional. It’s honestly astonishing how scientifically illiterate you are.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not going to convince any right wing republicans of anything, so I am just waiting for them to fool around and find out. Not sure they are going to like what's coming for them too, if a republican actually gets elected this time.

Candidly, as a Democrat I was assured that the entire country would fail if Trump became president and that objectively did not happen.

We did have a pandemic. And nationwide race riots. I dunno about you, but I didn't enjoy all that.

Tell us how Trump caused a global pandemic that originated from China.

Cause? No. Made exponentially worse because of his completely inept response? Hell yes.

Funny how none of the blindly partisan Democrats in this thread have been willing to say with any specifics how Hilary Clinton was going to stop the spread of the virus in China, India, or the rest of the world.

I am still looking forward to learning about those plans! 👍 It’s amazing how Hilary apparently had the ability to stop a global pandemic. Can’t wait to hear how!

It’s been explained many times. Your faux obtuseness is not persuasive.

Trump removed the HHS monitor team from China. Had they been there, we would have known weeks earlier. We would have worked through international organizations to slow and contain the spread. Just as we did for sars and mers.

Wait, what? Do you seriously believe that the partial shuttering of a team based in the US — not China — would have halted the Covid-19 pandemic? You are insane, I’m sorry. This is absolutely delusional.

Also, even Reuters doesn’t buy what you are selling here:

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN21C32C/

Did you read the article you cited?

CONCLUSIONS
There is disagreement over how to describe the changes at the NSC’s Directorate for Global Health Security and Biodefense in 2018. The departure of some members due to “streamlining” efforts under John Bolton is documented. The “pandemic response team” as a unit was largely disbanded.
VERDICT​
Partly false: The Trump administration disbanded the “pandemic response” team, but some of the team members were reassigned to roles that included pandemic response.

Um, yes. Do you not understand what you just quoted? Maybe the problem is that you are very slow, and so are incapable of complex thought. That might explain why you apparently fervently believe that Hilary Clinton would have stopped the spread of the Covid-19 virus in China, India, and elsewhere in the world.

Dp- “My article doesn’t support my argument, because I’m stupid.”

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not going to convince any right wing republicans of anything, so I am just waiting for them to fool around and find out. Not sure they are going to like what's coming for them too, if a republican actually gets elected this time.

Candidly, as a Democrat I was assured that the entire country would fail if Trump became president and that objectively did not happen.

We did have a pandemic. And nationwide race riots. I dunno about you, but I didn't enjoy all that.

Tell us how Trump caused a global pandemic that originated from China.

Cause? No. Made exponentially worse because of his completely inept response? Hell yes.

Funny how none of the blindly partisan Democrats in this thread have been willing to say with any specifics how Hilary Clinton was going to stop the spread of the virus in China, India, or the rest of the world.

I am still looking forward to learning about those plans! 👍 It’s amazing how Hilary apparently had the ability to stop a global pandemic. Can’t wait to hear how!

Leadership
Expertise
Coordination
Delegation
Decisiveness
Management
Oversight
Logistics
Communication

In other words, the exact opposite of what Trump spent his time on in 2020.

Specifics. How specifically was Hilary going to stop the spread of Covid in countries outside the US and stop a global pandemic? That’s the claim you Democrats are making. I want the exact plan that would have halted the spread of the virus. You say it exists. So share it.

NP: Given that the GOP doesn't even have a platform, you may want to start fixing up your own house first before you start pointing fingers.

Democrats in this thread have said that Hilary would have stopped the Covid-19 pandemic globally. They are the ones who made that claim. Are you now backing down from that claim?

That is an absolutely hilarious claim; would love to hear more about it. Of course, Obama was going to stop the oceans from rising and reverse climate change, so it's quite likely that their worshipping cult members do believe this.

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Why should trump care about climate change? He is generationally privileged. He or his offspring just pick up and locate in a place of climate refuge when his current locations are no longer suitable.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not going to convince any right wing republicans of anything, so I am just waiting for them to fool around and find out. Not sure they are going to like what's coming for them too, if a republican actually gets elected this time.

Candidly, as a Democrat I was assured that the entire country would fail if Trump became president and that objectively did not happen.

We did have a pandemic. And nationwide race riots. I dunno about you, but I didn't enjoy all that.

Tell us how Trump caused a global pandemic that originated from China.

Cause? No. Made exponentially worse because of his completely inept response? Hell yes.

Funny how none of the blindly partisan Democrats in this thread have been willing to say with any specifics how Hilary Clinton was going to stop the spread of the virus in China, India, or the rest of the world.

I am still looking forward to learning about those plans! 👍 It’s amazing how Hilary apparently had the ability to stop a global pandemic. Can’t wait to hear how!

Leadership
Expertise
Coordination
Delegation
Decisiveness
Management
Oversight
Logistics
Communication

In other words, the exact opposite of what Trump spent his time on in 2020.

Specifics. How specifically was Hilary going to stop the spread of Covid in countries outside the US and stop a global pandemic? That’s the claim you Democrats are making. I want the exact plan that would have halted the spread of the virus. You say it exists. So share it.

The early detection office in China that Trump closed and the pandemic playbook that was developed by W and Obama that Trump threw out. Not stealing medical equipment. Taking it seriously. Paying attention during briefings.

Delusional. Just delusional. It’s honestly astonishing how scientifically illiterate you are.

But that’s not actually a specific or scientific response. You just don’t like the facts.

I’m sorry that you don’t understand how powerful the United States is or the good it can accomplish for Americans. Sure there is waste and inefficiency but the actual positives the federal government achieve are tremendous. You should be proud of that and not seek to tear it down.