Man asked woman to leash her dog in a public park -- she called the police on him

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Anonymous wrote:She is clearly in the wrong for having her dog off leash in an area where it is not allowed. She's obviously racist and was saying "I'm calling the cops and letting them know an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN IS THREATENING MY LIFE".. basically "who do you think they are going to side with?".. Nothing about this scene says she was truly scared or she would have left and then called. Plus, he wasn't threatening her life.

But he's also a d*ck to be offering treats to a strangers dog and I would bet 10 bucks he wouldn't have videotaped or approached a male.

If your dog is off leash, you get what you get. Your dog could get pepper sprayed, punched, kicked, or *faint* given a treat. Don't want that to happen? Leash your damn dog. This is all very simple.

Yes LEASH YOUR DOG.

I really don’t understand why this is hard for people. I’ve asked people to leash their dog in rock creek park, always politely, and the majority of time they don’t do it or say something nasty and do it. Just leash your dog- it’s the law.

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Anonymous wrote:White women have to continue to learn the hard way. White Men might still rule the world, but white women are by far the most entitled.

- another white woman

Fixed that for you.

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Anonymous wrote:How do people think its ok for the man to set up the situation and try to take her dog from her? If that was a child and he offered the child candy, would that be ok? By his account, he was setting up the situation, being a bully and who knows what he was trying to do by trying to take the dog from her with dog treats. If that was a child, we'd call him a potential kidnapper. He set it up completely and if you look at his words, something is seriously off about the man. He was not bird watching and clearly has done this before or was out to take someone's dog as who carries treats around if you don't have a dog.

Pretty sure if the dog were a kid she'd already be in jail for strangling it.

Try harder?

She didn't strangle the dog.

Maybe not, but if you watch the video, she definitely abused the dog. Yanking a dog by the collar so hard that it yelps in pain is abuse. And she deserved to have the dog taken away.

She did not handle it well at all but was provoked and trying to keep the dog from him.

She was holding the dog by the collar with its feet off the ground. I kept wondering why she was so busy yelling at him and getting on the phone when 2 seconds to clip the dog would have ended it (she could have clipped the dog when she was bending down on the phone and didn't even do it then, not until later). She apparently was ignoring him until he started videotaping, then she freaked out (uh oh, her 15 minutes of unwanted fame) thereby guaranteeing her 15 minutes of unwanted fame.

Someone my DS used to know, a young woman with history since childhood of mental illness and develop drug problems on top of that, had her little dog at a bar one night and started swinging it around in the air on its leash, got banned for life from the bar, got arrested for animal abuse, had to surrender the dog.

I often let my dog start walks in our alley off the leash and get the leash on before we reach the sidewalk. He's an older dog but this let him have a minute or two to run a bit before settling down to a walk, and never had a problem (all the other dogs on the block are tiny noisy dogs who live behind fences and do not go for walks). But for awhile there was a tenant in a nearby apt house, a guy in his 50s who made a big deal about the leash and yelled at me about how there's a law and threatened to call the cops. I didn't like how aggressive he was about it and thought "asshole" several times but resigned myself because he was right about the law and in a confrontation, which I didn't want anyway, I had no leg to stand on.

Maybe the other dogs don’t get to go on walks because your dog is off leash back there.

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Anonymous wrote:She is probably having a mental breakdown with fear of the pandemic, hence why she got the dog, probably for protection. I had friends in NYC, PTSD is a thing, nonstop ambuolances, the refrigerated morgues on the street.

I mean, she is vile, don’t get me wrong, the gentleman was so measured, but clearly she was unhinged.

He was setting her up for this to happen and wanted his 5 minutes of fame which he got. There was no reason to record her. There was no reason to provoke her. She may have been raped or attacked in the past which caused her to panic. Both were wrong.

Really - that is your takeaway?

She wasn't near anyone in an open area. He pulled out his phone to yell at her and provke a reaction that he could post on social media.

This. And creepy that he had dog treats but no dog.

No it is not. He's been to that area many times before to birdwatch. He knows that there are many irresponsible dog owners who believe that the rules don't apply to them and they bring their dogs unleashed into the area despite the written signs that dictate the law. The problem is that the dogs roam through the nesting area of some of the ground birds and scare the birds away. And that is because the irresponsible dog owners don't have control of their pets. But, all it takes is someone offering a dog treat for dog owners to do exactly what the racist woman did, they either grab their dogs by the collar or they put their dogs on leashes or they leave the area. In other words, it forces the dog owners to take control of their pets.

So, first he asks them politely to leash their dog. If they don't, he takes out the dog treats which makes most dog owners take control of their pet. And it is far more kind to the animal than spraying it with pepper spray.

And instead of just taking control of her pet, she then decides that she's going to make him pay for that and she endangers his life by committing yet another crime, this time one of slander by making a patently false police report. She got what she deserved losing her dog and her job. She'll be lucky if that's all it costs her for being such a reprehensible creature.

He does not own the property. He cannot dictate or control others actions. It is not his job to police. It is the police who should and he could have called them. The dog is allowed to play in the park. The dog has just as much right to enjoy the park as he does and I don't even like dogs.

He has absolutely NO RIGHT to feed a dog that does not belong to him. It is very threatening to have a stranger approach you and try to take control of your dog and give them food. How does she know the food isn't poisoned? He and the woman who posted the video should equally have consequences. The dog was not bothering him or attacking him.

So, if a stranger walked up to your child and offered them treats, would you be ok with that? If it were a child, we'd worry he was a kidnapper.

We get it. The black man forgot his place, you racist POS. He didn't walk up to anyone. She walked up to him. And if your dog is off leash and I feel like you don't have control, I'm going to do worse than give it a treat. I'm more of a kicker.

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Anonymous wrote:They both acted really oddly. This is why I don't correct people in public. It never ends well. Christian Cooper should not be offering other people's dogs treats, even if they are annoying the heck out of him by leaving their dogs off-leash. Amy Cooper overreacted, but maybe she did feel threatened.

Yes, they both were at fault for the way things escalated but only one of them could have ended up dead if the police had shown up while both of them were still there.

If she really felt threatened, why did she not scream and run away? Or walk away.

Why did she tell the police that an African-American man was threatening her and her dog instead of just saying “a man” was threatening her?

And if she cared so much about her dog, why was she yanking him around by the neck instead of taking two seconds to put the leash back on and pulling him safely?

She just had to “show” the black guy who was boss by calling the cops....and he could have ended up dead as a result.

Yes, this was a power trip pure and simple. It is 100% evident she was not afraid.

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The real reason this has so many white women tut-tutting and clutching their pearls and loudly scolding this woman is that deep down inside, they know/fear they likely would have done the same thing she did.

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Can we all just agree to stop engaging the poster(s) who keeps trying to use the dog treats as justification for this woman's behavior? They're clearly just interested in pedaling their alternative facts.

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Anonymous wrote:She is probably having a mental breakdown with fear of the pandemic, hence why she got the dog, probably for protection. I had friends in NYC, PTSD is a thing, nonstop ambuolances, the refrigerated morgues on the street.

I mean, she is vile, don’t get me wrong, the gentleman was so measured, but clearly she was unhinged.

He was setting her up for this to happen and wanted his 5 minutes of fame which he got. There was no reason to record her. There was no reason to provoke her. She may have been raped or attacked in the past which caused her to panic. Both were wrong.

Really - that is your takeaway?

She wasn't near anyone in an open area. He pulled out his phone to yell at her and provke a reaction that he could post on social media.

This. And creepy that he had dog treats but no dog.

No it is not. He's been to that area many times before to birdwatch. He knows that there are many irresponsible dog owners who believe that the rules don't apply to them and they bring their dogs unleashed into the area despite the written signs that dictate the law. The problem is that the dogs roam through the nesting area of some of the ground birds and scare the birds away. And that is because the irresponsible dog owners don't have control of their pets. But, all it takes is someone offering a dog treat for dog owners to do exactly what the racist woman did, they either grab their dogs by the collar or they put their dogs on leashes or they leave the area. In other words, it forces the dog owners to take control of their pets.

So, first he asks them politely to leash their dog. If they don't, he takes out the dog treats which makes most dog owners take control of their pet. And it is far more kind to the animal than spraying it with pepper spray.

And instead of just taking control of her pet, she then decides that she's going to make him pay for that and she endangers his life by committing yet another crime, this time one of slander by making a patently false police report. She got what she deserved losing her dog and her job. She'll be lucky if that's all it costs her for being such a reprehensible creature.

He does not own the property. He cannot dictate or control others actions. It is not his job to police. It is the police who should and he could have called them. The dog is allowed to play in the park. The dog has just as much right to enjoy the park as he does and I don't even like dogs.

He has absolutely NO RIGHT to feed a dog that does not belong to him. It is very threatening to have a stranger approach you and try to take control of your dog and give them food. How does she know the food isn't poisoned? He and the woman who posted the video should equally have consequences. The dog was not bothering him or attacking him.

So, if a stranger walked up to your child and offered them treats, would you be ok with that? If it were a child, we'd worry he was a kidnapper.

We get it. The black man forgot his place, you racist POS. He didn't walk up to anyone. She walked up to him. And if your dog is off leash and I feel like you don't have control, I'm going to do worse than give it a treat. I'm more of a kicker.

Don’t go to Lincoln Park. It’s all entitled white jerks and their dangerous off leash dogs. I call the National park service to report unleashed dogs every time my kids have been snapped at by a dog (if I called them every time I saw an off leash dog I’d have to call every day!). No one ever shows up. There are numerous clear signs that say leash your dog. There is a dog run nearby where they can be off leash. But every single time we ask people to leash their dogs we get shouted at or ignored. I like this man’s idea to keep dog treats in your pocket but given the posters on this forum I’m sure they’d come at me the same way that this poor gentleman has been attacked.

Just LEASH YOUR DOG.

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Anonymous wrote:If a stranger told you that he was going to do what he wants to do, and you were not going to like it ——-in a secluded part of the park during a pandemic (so it’s even more secluded) would you feel threatened or not? regardless of the mans race. If you were single woman how would you feel? Also would you like a stranger or you just had an altercation with the offer your dog a treat or any stranger for that matter?

I would consider it a threat because it is a threat. But even so I would hesitate to turn my back on the creep. After I got a safe distance I would call the police, whether the guy was black white or purple.

But calling the police would be racist.

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Anonymous wrote:She is probably having a mental breakdown with fear of the pandemic, hence why she got the dog, probably for protection. I had friends in NYC, PTSD is a thing, nonstop ambuolances, the refrigerated morgues on the street.

I mean, she is vile, don’t get me wrong, the gentleman was so measured, but clearly she was unhinged.

He was setting her up for this to happen and wanted his 5 minutes of fame which he got. There was no reason to record her. There was no reason to provoke her. She may have been raped or attacked in the past which caused her to panic. Both were wrong.

Really - that is your takeaway?

She wasn't near anyone in an open area. He pulled out his phone to yell at her and provke a reaction that he could post on social media.

This. And creepy that he had dog treats but no dog.

No it is not. He's been to that area many times before to birdwatch. He knows that there are many irresponsible dog owners who believe that the rules don't apply to them and they bring their dogs unleashed into the area despite the written signs that dictate the law. The problem is that the dogs roam through the nesting area of some of the ground birds and scare the birds away. And that is because the irresponsible dog owners don't have control of their pets. But, all it takes is someone offering a dog treat for dog owners to do exactly what the racist woman did, they either grab their dogs by the collar or they put their dogs on leashes or they leave the area. In other words, it forces the dog owners to take control of their pets.

So, first he asks them politely to leash their dog. If they don't, he takes out the dog treats which makes most dog owners take control of their pet. And it is far more kind to the animal than spraying it with pepper spray.

And instead of just taking control of her pet, she then decides that she's going to make him pay for that and she endangers his life by committing yet another crime, this time one of slander by making a patently false police report. She got what she deserved losing her dog and her job. She'll be lucky if that's all it costs her for being such a reprehensible creature.

He does not own the property. He cannot dictate or control others actions. It is not his job to police. It is the police who should and he could have called them. The dog is allowed to play in the park. The dog has just as much right to enjoy the park as he does and I don't even like dogs.

He has absolutely NO RIGHT to feed a dog that does not belong to him. It is very threatening to have a stranger approach you and try to take control of your dog and give them food. How does she know the food isn't poisoned? He and the woman who posted the video should equally have consequences. The dog was not bothering him or attacking him.

So, if a stranger walked up to your child and offered them treats, would you be ok with that? If it were a child, we'd worry he was a kidnapper.

We get it. The black man forgot his place, you racist POS. He didn't walk up to anyone. She walked up to him. And if your dog is off leash and I feel like you don't have control, I'm going to do worse than give it a treat. I'm more of a kicker.

Don’t go to Lincoln Park. It’s all entitled white jerks and their dangerous off leash dogs. I call the National park service to report unleashed dogs every time my kids have been snapped at by a dog (if I called them every time I saw an off leash dog I’d have to call every day!). No one ever shows up. There are numerous clear signs that say leash your dog. There is a dog run nearby where they can be off leash. But every single time we ask people to leash their dogs we get shouted at or ignored. I like this man’s idea to keep dog treats in your pocket but given the posters on this forum I’m sure they’d come at me the same way that this poor gentleman has been attacked.

Just LEASH YOUR DOG.

As someone who has called the police on people with off leash dogs after one knocked my kid off his bike, it's not remotely effective. The police either take forever or don't show, and if they do, the offender is long gone.

But offering the dog a treat to demonstrate to these idiots how doing this could be bad for them (because that's all these people understand) is really smart. Someone could do that and take your dog. Someone could do that and poison your dog. Fact is, when your dog is off leash, anything could happen, and you are not in control. LEASH YOUR DOG. If not for everyone else's sake, maybe for your own?

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Next time I'm somewhere a bunch of kids are running around free, I'm going to bring some candy and call them over to eat it.

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Anonymous wrote:If a stranger told you that he was going to do what he wants to do, and you were not going to like it ——-in a secluded part of the park during a pandemic (so it’s even more secluded) would you feel threatened or not? regardless of the mans race. If you were single woman how would you feel? Also would you like a stranger or you just had an altercation with the offer your dog a treat or any stranger for that matter?

I would consider it a threat because it is a threat. But even so I would hesitate to turn my back on the creep. After I got a safe distance I would call the police, whether the guy was black white or purple.

But calling the police would be racist.

You can't give an unwanted treat to a dog on a leash. If hed walked up to her, with the dog on the leash, and forced his dog treat on them, you'd have a point. Major creep, if that were what happened. But it's not, so try to deal with reality. Single women, if they're so precious and frail, should not go around getting into altercations. They should not willfully break the law and argue with people who ask them to stop. Don't start none, won't be none, as they say.

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Anonymous wrote:Next time I'm somewhere a bunch of kids are running around free, I'm going to bring some candy and call them over to eat it.

You're a fool. Thats not what this is, but go right ahead. I hope you enjoy jail.

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We do not see the interaction before he started filming. Clearly he was intimidating. Why didn't he just say leash your dog and walk away?

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Anonymous wrote:We do not see the interaction before he started filming. Clearly he was intimidating. Why didn't he just say leash your dog and walk away?

If she was intimidated why was she charging toward him and he had to ask her to stay away from him?