What if Biden does not bow out?

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Anonymous wrote:I have a suspension that he had early-stage Parkinson's and it's gotten worse in the last year or so. This was known in Biden's inner circle, with rumors circulating outside of this circle. I also have a feeling that the Parkinson’s expert visiting the White House 8 times in 8 months is a cute way to hide the progression of Parkinson's. Did Biden consult with a Parkinson's physician? No. Did Biden's GP consult with this expert as a "go-between?" Probably.


This is fiction. There is literally no credible evidence of the above. The supposed "Parkinsons doctor" has been the neurology specialist for the White House Medical Unit going back to the Bush administration and made dozens and dozens of visits to the White House before Biden even got elected. By the faulty logic displayed here of "OHH A PARKINSONS DOCTOR VISITED" that means Trump has Parkinsons and so do Obama and Bush. See a problem there? And no, there's no "known in Biden's inner circle" - there's no credible evidence of it. Biden had a full physical in February including being examined by the Parkinsons doctor who concluded Biden DOES NOT HAVE Parkinsons and that is documented in a report and a statement.


I have never seen a credible source document that the parkinsons doc has visited the WH before. Do you have a source to link to?

have you watched this? This doctor specializes in parkinson’s patients and says he see patients everyday just like Joe Biden. NBC rolls tape of Biden doing everything this doctor says parkinson’s patients do as they progress. If you watched it you might change your mind. You aren’t even a little suspicious that a parkinsons doc has been visiting the WH and a parkinson’s doc says without doubt Joe has it? You think the doctor being interviewed is lying?


It's a matter of public record that Dr. Cannard was the White House Medical Unit's neurology specialist since the Bush Administration and the official White House visitor logs show that Cannard visited the Obama White House numerous times.

Also, it's highly unprofessional and a breach of ethics for a physician to give a diagnosis for a patient that he has never examined.

The movement issues are fully attributable to arthritis and neuropathy in his feet. Also, the doctor on the NBC clip cited Biden's "low voice" and "hypophonia" but that only happened during the debate and it was obvious congestion. He didn't exhibit that during his NATO speech. Meanwhile, Dr. Cannard examined Biden and determined he does not have Parkinsons and that's reflected in the detailed report from his February physical.



He no doubt also visited during Trump's administration, but your wonderful Mr. Trump suppressed the visitor logs during his term and they are not public.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm voting for Biden either way. If he does actually have an issue and wasn't just tired, Harris is completely qualified.

Trump has similar issues, plus lack of interest in democracy, so not voting for him no matter what.


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Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm voting for Biden either way. If he does actually have an issue and wasn't just tired, Harris is completely qualified.

Trump has similar issues, plus lack of interest in democracy, so not voting for him no matter what.


Trump has the issues that are listed above? Which ones?


The whole leaning thing, the coherent sentence thing, the focus on issue thing… the actual work a job thing


I don’t see any of those symptoms on the list.

Trump hasn’t changed, he’s the same. Biden is a completely different person.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Stage One
During this initial stage, the person has mild symptoms that generally do not interfere with daily activities. Tremor and other movement symptoms occur on one side of the body only. Changes in posture, walking and facial expressions occur.

Parkinson’s affects everyone differently and symptoms can change throughout the course of the disease. Only half of all people with PD will experience tremor, for instance. Though Parkinson's is diagnosed based on primary movement symptoms, it can produce many secondary movement symptoms too.

Types of Secondary Movement Symptoms
Biden-Decreased arm swing when walking.
Difficulty turning over in bed and difficulty getting out of bed, a deep chair, or a car seat.
Biden-Dysarthria (slurring of speech) and hypophonia (soft, sometimes breathy and hoarse, voice).
Dyskinesia, involuntary, erratic writhing movements of the face, arms, legs or trunk.
Dystonia, sustained or repetitive muscle cramping, twisting or tightening.
Biden-Facial masking (hypomimia), a serious or mad facial "masking" appearance, and decreased blink rate.
Biden-Festination – short, rapid steps during walking, done in attempt to keep the center of gravity in between the feet while the trunk leans forward involuntarily and shifts the center of gravity forward. It increases fall risk and is often linked with freezing.
Biden-Freezing, a sensation of being stuck in place, especially when beginning a step, turning or navigating through doorways or other narrow passages. This can also increase risk of falling.
Biden-Masked face (hypomimia): results from the combination of bradykinesia and rigidity.
Micrographia: small, crowded handwriting due to bradykinesia.
Biden-Shuffling gait: accompanied by short steps and often a stooped posture.
Stooped posture, often accompanied by short steps (shuffling gait) and trouble walking.
Biden-Soft speech (hypophonia): soft, sometimes hoarse, voice that can occur in PD.


Biden's February physical reflects that Biden does not have any tremors, not at rest and not in motion. Nor did he exhibit any issues with fine motor control. His gait is due to spinal and joint arthritis, neuropathy in his feet. That's all covered in the report from February.
His so-called "hypophonia" went away when his cold went away.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Health-Summary-2.28.pdf
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a suspension that he had early-stage Parkinson's and it's gotten worse in the last year or so. This was known in Biden's inner circle, with rumors circulating outside of this circle. I also have a feeling that the Parkinson’s expert visiting the White House 8 times in 8 months is a cute way to hide the progression of Parkinson's. Did Biden consult with a Parkinson's physician? No. Did Biden's GP consult with this expert as a "go-between?" Probably.


This is fiction. There is literally no credible evidence of the above. The supposed "Parkinsons doctor" has been the neurology specialist for the White House Medical Unit going back to the Bush administration and made dozens and dozens of visits to the White House before Biden even got elected. By the faulty logic displayed here of "OHH A PARKINSONS DOCTOR VISITED" that means Trump has Parkinsons and so do Obama and Bush. See a problem there? And no, there's no "known in Biden's inner circle" - there's no credible evidence of it. Biden had a full physical in February including being examined by the Parkinsons doctor who concluded Biden DOES NOT HAVE Parkinsons and that is documented in a report and a statement.


I have never seen a credible source document that the parkinsons doc has visited the WH before. Do you have a source to link to?

have you watched this? This doctor specializes in parkinson’s patients and says he see patients everyday just like Joe Biden. NBC rolls tape of Biden doing everything this doctor says parkinson’s patients do as they progress. If you watched it you might change your mind. You aren’t even a little suspicious that a parkinsons doc has been visiting the WH and a parkinson’s doc says without doubt Joe has it? You think the doctor being interviewed is lying?


It's a matter of public record that Dr. Cannard was the White House Medical Unit's neurology specialist since the Bush Administration and the official White House visitor logs show that Cannard visited the Obama White House numerous times.

Also, it's highly unprofessional and a breach of ethics for a physician to give a diagnosis for a patient that he has never examined.

The movement issues are fully attributable to arthritis and neuropathy in his feet. Also, the doctor on the NBC clip cited Biden's "low voice" and "hypophonia" but that only happened during the debate and it was obvious congestion. He didn't exhibit that during his NATO speech. Meanwhile, Dr. Cannard examined Biden and determined he does not have Parkinsons and that's reflected in the detailed report from his February physical.



He no doubt also visited during Trump's administration, but your wonderful Mr. Trump suppressed the visitor logs during his term and they are not public.


You know who was at the WH during the Obama administration? Joe Biden.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a suspension that he had early-stage Parkinson's and it's gotten worse in the last year or so. This was known in Biden's inner circle, with rumors circulating outside of this circle. I also have a feeling that the Parkinson’s expert visiting the White House 8 times in 8 months is a cute way to hide the progression of Parkinson's. Did Biden consult with a Parkinson's physician? No. Did Biden's GP consult with this expert as a "go-between?" Probably.



it is so over for Biden and the hard left. But fortunately a Trump presidency will not be the end of the world and all the other hyperbole. and then hopefully in 2028, both parties will roll out younger, less divisive candidates.


I really want to believe you. I really do.


Goodness gracious, the drama! Pay attention to Democratic leadership. Do they seem to be doing whatever’s necessary to protect us from the danger of a Trump presidency? No, they do not. And they probably know Trump and what he would do better than you. So it’ll be okay!
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"It’s up to the president to decide if he is going to run. We’re all encouraging him to make that decision, because time is running short,"




Obviously he's already made that decision, or he would not have appeared on 50-whatever primary ballots. But I don't know that she's tossing him under the bus so much as hedging because no changes will be announced during the NATO summit or before the end of the Republican convention next week.


Nancy Pelosi could have kept her mouth shut. She could have refused interviews, especially one on live national television. She could have fully endorsed Joe Biden.

She did none of the above. She was not hedging bets. She was directly telling Biden, on his favorite news show, that he's a loser.


She also asked a reporter if she spoke English today
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm voting for Biden either way. If he does actually have an issue and wasn't just tired, Harris is completely qualified.

Trump has similar issues, plus lack of interest in democracy, so not voting for him no matter what.


Trump has the issues that are listed above? Which ones?


The whole leaning thing, the coherent sentence thing, the focus on issue thing… the actual work a job thing


I don’t see any of those symptoms on the list.

Trump hasn’t changed, he’s the same. Biden is a completely different person.


Trump has DEFINITELY changed. Watch an interview with Trump from 20 years ago and compare it to today. It's night and day. 20 years ago, he was articulate (unlike his current 5th-grade vocabulary) and he was coherent, he expressed complete, organized thoughts, he didn't slur his words, he didn't interrupt himself constantly, the discussion wasn't riddled with bizarre confabulations and streams of pathological lies. Now Trump does all of those things, and I don't even understand how someone watching him at his rallies today could even remotely think there isn't something seriously wrong with him, cognitively.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

"It’s up to the president to decide if he is going to run. We’re all encouraging him to make that decision, because time is running short,"




Obviously he's already made that decision, or he would not have appeared on 50-whatever primary ballots. But I don't know that she's tossing him under the bus so much as hedging because no changes will be announced during the NATO summit or before the end of the Republican convention next week.


with each passing week it gets exponentially harder to make a change. The Dems screwed themselves so badly by propping him up as long as they did.


It’s really too late now.

Jill and Hunter aren’t letting their golden goose wander back to DE and lay on the beach and enjoy his last few months/years.

Neither Jill nor Hunter have an experience as an elected official and only see what they want-to stay in the WH. If I was a democrat, I would be spitting mad at those two, and even more furious with the invisible entity (Obama) that is animating this old, sick man. America is not their toy.


I don’t think Obama would stand for Biden staying in the race but he has no power over the Bidens anymore. The Bidens hate Obama. They blame HIM for Bidens state right now because they wanted Joe to run back in 2016. But Obama told him not to in favor of Hillary. They think this is Obamas fault for delaying Bidens campaign to 2020.

The entire situation is kind of Obama’s fault if you think about it. Why didn’t he want Biden to run against Hillary? HE ran against Hillary so clearly it’s her turn didn’t mean much to him when it was his turn.

Obama may mean well but he and Axelrod have too much power over the Democrat Party and DNC. They need to be shut out or humbled like the Clintons because ego has run amuk.

Bidens and Clintons will be even more pissed at him If Michelle is added on the ticket begrudgingly at the 11th hour and that’s probably what he’s planning
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a suspension that he had early-stage Parkinson's and it's gotten worse in the last year or so. This was known in Biden's inner circle, with rumors circulating outside of this circle. I also have a feeling that the Parkinson’s expert visiting the White House 8 times in 8 months is a cute way to hide the progression of Parkinson's. Did Biden consult with a Parkinson's physician? No. Did Biden's GP consult with this expert as a "go-between?" Probably.


This is fiction. There is literally no credible evidence of the above. The supposed "Parkinsons doctor" has been the neurology specialist for the White House Medical Unit going back to the Bush administration and made dozens and dozens of visits to the White House before Biden even got elected. By the faulty logic displayed here of "OHH A PARKINSONS DOCTOR VISITED" that means Trump has Parkinsons and so do Obama and Bush. See a problem there? And no, there's no "known in Biden's inner circle" - there's no credible evidence of it. Biden had a full physical in February including being examined by the Parkinsons doctor who concluded Biden DOES NOT HAVE Parkinsons and that is documented in a report and a statement.


I have never seen a credible source document that the parkinsons doc has visited the WH before. Do you have a source to link to?

have you watched this? This doctor specializes in parkinson’s patients and says he see patients everyday just like Joe Biden. NBC rolls tape of Biden doing everything this doctor says parkinson’s patients do as they progress. If you watched it you might change your mind. You aren’t even a little suspicious that a parkinsons doc has been visiting the WH and a parkinson’s doc says without doubt Joe has it? You think the doctor being interviewed is lying?


It's a matter of public record that Dr. Cannard was the White House Medical Unit's neurology specialist since the Bush Administration and the official White House visitor logs show that Cannard visited the Obama White House numerous times.

Also, it's highly unprofessional and a breach of ethics for a physician to give a diagnosis for a patient that he has never examined.

The movement issues are fully attributable to arthritis and neuropathy in his feet. Also, the doctor on the NBC clip cited Biden's "low voice" and "hypophonia" but that only happened during the debate and it was obvious congestion. He didn't exhibit that during his NATO speech. Meanwhile, Dr. Cannard examined Biden and determined he does not have Parkinsons and that's reflected in the detailed report from his February physical.



He no doubt also visited during Trump's administration, but your wonderful Mr. Trump suppressed the visitor logs during his term and they are not public.


You know who was at the WH during the Obama administration? Joe Biden.


The White House Medical Unit sees hundreds of White House staff. It's not dedicated to the President or VP. Also, you can't explain away why the Bush Administration or Trump Administration had a Parkinsons doctor.
Anonymous
Michelle never wanted him to run for political office let alone President in the first place but that didn’t stop him. Obama will find a way to make all these people fold like puppets on a string
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a suspension that he had early-stage Parkinson's and it's gotten worse in the last year or so. This was known in Biden's inner circle, with rumors circulating outside of this circle. I also have a feeling that the Parkinson’s expert visiting the White House 8 times in 8 months is a cute way to hide the progression of Parkinson's. Did Biden consult with a Parkinson's physician? No. Did Biden's GP consult with this expert as a "go-between?" Probably.


This is fiction. There is literally no credible evidence of the above. The supposed "Parkinsons doctor" has been the neurology specialist for the White House Medical Unit going back to the Bush administration and made dozens and dozens of visits to the White House before Biden even got elected. By the faulty logic displayed here of "OHH A PARKINSONS DOCTOR VISITED" that means Trump has Parkinsons and so do Obama and Bush. See a problem there? And no, there's no "known in Biden's inner circle" - there's no credible evidence of it. Biden had a full physical in February including being examined by the Parkinsons doctor who concluded Biden DOES NOT HAVE Parkinsons and that is documented in a report and a statement.


I have never seen a credible source document that the parkinsons doc has visited the WH before. Do you have a source to link to?

have you watched this? This doctor specializes in parkinson’s patients and says he see patients everyday just like Joe Biden. NBC rolls tape of Biden doing everything this doctor says parkinson’s patients do as they progress. If you watched it you might change your mind. You aren’t even a little suspicious that a parkinsons doc has been visiting the WH and a parkinson’s doc says without doubt Joe has it? You think the doctor being interviewed is lying?


It's a matter of public record that Dr. Cannard was the White House Medical Unit's neurology specialist since the Bush Administration and the official White House visitor logs show that Cannard visited the Obama White House numerous times.

Also, it's highly unprofessional and a breach of ethics for a physician to give a diagnosis for a patient that he has never examined.

The movement issues are fully attributable to arthritis and neuropathy in his feet. Also, the doctor on the NBC clip cited Biden's "low voice" and "hypophonia" but that only happened during the debate and it was obvious congestion. He didn't exhibit that during his NATO speech. Meanwhile, Dr. Cannard examined Biden and determined he does not have Parkinsons and that's reflected in the detailed report from his February physical.



He no doubt also visited during Trump's administration, but your wonderful Mr. Trump suppressed the visitor logs during his term and they are not public.


You know who was at the WH during the Obama administration? Joe Biden.


The White House Medical Unit sees hundreds of White House staff. It's not dedicated to the President or VP. Also, you can't explain away why the Bush Administration or Trump Administration had a Parkinsons doctor.


No, a specialist from walter reed visiting the WH would only be treating the president and family or the vp and family.

When did Bush and Trump have a parkinsons doc? Citation?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a suspension that he had early-stage Parkinson's and it's gotten worse in the last year or so. This was known in Biden's inner circle, with rumors circulating outside of this circle. I also have a feeling that the Parkinson’s expert visiting the White House 8 times in 8 months is a cute way to hide the progression of Parkinson's. Did Biden consult with a Parkinson's physician? No. Did Biden's GP consult with this expert as a "go-between?" Probably.


This is fiction. There is literally no credible evidence of the above. The supposed "Parkinsons doctor" has been the neurology specialist for the White House Medical Unit going back to the Bush administration and made dozens and dozens of visits to the White House before Biden even got elected. By the faulty logic displayed here of "OHH A PARKINSONS DOCTOR VISITED" that means Trump has Parkinsons and so do Obama and Bush. See a problem there? And no, there's no "known in Biden's inner circle" - there's no credible evidence of it. Biden had a full physical in February including being examined by the Parkinsons doctor who concluded Biden DOES NOT HAVE Parkinsons and that is documented in a report and a statement.


I have never seen a credible source document that the parkinsons doc has visited the WH before. Do you have a source to link to?

have you watched this? This doctor specializes in parkinson’s patients and says he see patients everyday just like Joe Biden. NBC rolls tape of Biden doing everything this doctor says parkinson’s patients do as they progress. If you watched it you might change your mind. You aren’t even a little suspicious that a parkinsons doc has been visiting the WH and a parkinson’s doc says without doubt Joe has it? You think the doctor being interviewed is lying?


It's a matter of public record that Dr. Cannard was the White House Medical Unit's neurology specialist since the Bush Administration and the official White House visitor logs show that Cannard visited the Obama White House numerous times.

Also, it's highly unprofessional and a breach of ethics for a physician to give a diagnosis for a patient that he has never examined.

The movement issues are fully attributable to arthritis and neuropathy in his feet. Also, the doctor on the NBC clip cited Biden's "low voice" and "hypophonia" but that only happened during the debate and it was obvious congestion. He didn't exhibit that during his NATO speech. Meanwhile, Dr. Cannard examined Biden and determined he does not have Parkinsons and that's reflected in the detailed report from his February physical.



He no doubt also visited during Trump's administration, but your wonderful Mr. Trump suppressed the visitor logs during his term and they are not public.


You know who was at the WH during the Obama administration? Joe Biden.


An AIDS doctor was at the White House during Trump's administration. By your own logic, that means Trump has AIDS.

Do you accept that?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a suspension that he had early-stage Parkinson's and it's gotten worse in the last year or so. This was known in Biden's inner circle, with rumors circulating outside of this circle. I also have a feeling that the Parkinson’s expert visiting the White House 8 times in 8 months is a cute way to hide the progression of Parkinson's. Did Biden consult with a Parkinson's physician? No. Did Biden's GP consult with this expert as a "go-between?" Probably.


This is fiction. There is literally no credible evidence of the above. The supposed "Parkinsons doctor" has been the neurology specialist for the White House Medical Unit going back to the Bush administration and made dozens and dozens of visits to the White House before Biden even got elected. By the faulty logic displayed here of "OHH A PARKINSONS DOCTOR VISITED" that means Trump has Parkinsons and so do Obama and Bush. See a problem there? And no, there's no "known in Biden's inner circle" - there's no credible evidence of it. Biden had a full physical in February including being examined by the Parkinsons doctor who concluded Biden DOES NOT HAVE Parkinsons and that is documented in a report and a statement.


I have never seen a credible source document that the parkinsons doc has visited the WH before. Do you have a source to link to?

have you watched this? This doctor specializes in parkinson’s patients and says he see patients everyday just like Joe Biden. NBC rolls tape of Biden doing everything this doctor says parkinson’s patients do as they progress. If you watched it you might change your mind. You aren’t even a little suspicious that a parkinsons doc has been visiting the WH and a parkinson’s doc says without doubt Joe has it? You think the doctor being interviewed is lying?


It's a matter of public record that Dr. Cannard was the White House Medical Unit's neurology specialist since the Bush Administration and the official White House visitor logs show that Cannard visited the Obama White House numerous times.

Also, it's highly unprofessional and a breach of ethics for a physician to give a diagnosis for a patient that he has never examined.

The movement issues are fully attributable to arthritis and neuropathy in his feet. Also, the doctor on the NBC clip cited Biden's "low voice" and "hypophonia" but that only happened during the debate and it was obvious congestion. He didn't exhibit that during his NATO speech. Meanwhile, Dr. Cannard examined Biden and determined he does not have Parkinsons and that's reflected in the detailed report from his February physical.



He no doubt also visited during Trump's administration, but your wonderful Mr. Trump suppressed the visitor logs during his term and they are not public.


You know who was at the WH during the Obama administration? Joe Biden.


An AIDS doctor was at the White House during Trump's administration. By your own logic, that means Trump has AIDS.

Do you accept that?


How many times did he visit? Trump was not and is not showing clinical signs or symptoms of HIV or AIDS.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Stage One
During this initial stage, the person has mild symptoms that generally do not interfere with daily activities. Tremor and other movement symptoms occur on one side of the body only. Changes in posture, walking and facial expressions occur.

Parkinson’s affects everyone differently and symptoms can change throughout the course of the disease. Only half of all people with PD will experience tremor, for instance. Though Parkinson's is diagnosed based on primary movement symptoms, it can produce many secondary movement symptoms too.

Types of Secondary Movement Symptoms
Biden-Decreased arm swing when walking.
Difficulty turning over in bed and difficulty getting out of bed, a deep chair, or a car seat.
Biden-Dysarthria (slurring of speech) and hypophonia (soft, sometimes breathy and hoarse, voice).
Dyskinesia, involuntary, erratic writhing movements of the face, arms, legs or trunk.
Dystonia, sustained or repetitive muscle cramping, twisting or tightening.
Biden-Facial masking (hypomimia), a serious or mad facial "masking" appearance, and decreased blink rate.
Biden-Festination – short, rapid steps during walking, done in attempt to keep the center of gravity in between the feet while the trunk leans forward involuntarily and shifts the center of gravity forward. It increases fall risk and is often linked with freezing.
Biden-Freezing, a sensation of being stuck in place, especially when beginning a step, turning or navigating through doorways or other narrow passages. This can also increase risk of falling.
Biden-Masked face (hypomimia): results from the combination of bradykinesia and rigidity.
Micrographia: small, crowded handwriting due to bradykinesia.
Biden-Shuffling gait: accompanied by short steps and often a stooped posture.
Stooped posture, often accompanied by short steps (shuffling gait) and trouble walking.
Biden-Soft speech (hypophonia): soft, sometimes hoarse, voice that can occur in PD.


Biden's February physical reflects that Biden does not have any tremors, not at rest and not in motion. Nor did he exhibit any issues with fine motor control. His gait is due to spinal and joint arthritis, neuropathy in his feet. That's all covered in the report from February.
His so-called "hypophonia" went away when his cold went away.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Health-Summary-2.28.pdf


So he doesn’t have Parkinsons. Who cares, he clearly has dementia. He’s impaired so label it whatever you want.
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