What if Biden does not bow out?

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Anonymous wrote:I have a suspension that he had early-stage Parkinson's and it's gotten worse in the last year or so. This was known in Biden's inner circle, with rumors circulating outside of this circle. I also have a feeling that the Parkinson’s expert visiting the White House 8 times in 8 months is a cute way to hide the progression of Parkinson's. Did Biden consult with a Parkinson's physician? No. Did Biden's GP consult with this expert as a "go-between?" Probably.

This is fiction. There is literally no credible evidence of the above. The supposed "Parkinsons doctor" has been the neurology specialist for the White House Medical Unit going back to the Bush administration and made dozens and dozens of visits to the White House before Biden even got elected. By the faulty logic displayed here of "OHH A PARKINSONS DOCTOR VISITED" that means Trump has Parkinsons and so do Obama and Bush. See a problem there? And no, there's no "known in Biden's inner circle" - there's no credible evidence of it. Biden had a full physical in February including being examined by the Parkinsons doctor who concluded Biden DOES NOT HAVE Parkinsons and that is documented in a report and a statement.

I have never seen a credible source document that the parkinsons doc has visited the WH before. Do you have a source to link to?

have you watched this? This doctor specializes in parkinson’s patients and says he see patients everyday just like Joe Biden. NBC rolls tape of Biden doing everything this doctor says parkinson’s patients do as they progress. If you watched it you might change your mind. You aren’t even a little suspicious that a parkinsons doc has been visiting the WH and a parkinson’s doc says without doubt Joe has it? You think the doctor being interviewed is lying?

It's a matter of public record that Dr. Cannard was the White House Medical Unit's neurology specialist since the Bush Administration and the official White House visitor logs show that Cannard visited the Obama White House numerous times.

Also, it's highly unprofessional and a breach of ethics for a physician to give a diagnosis for a patient that he has never examined.

The movement issues are fully attributable to arthritis and neuropathy in his feet. Also, the doctor on the NBC clip cited Biden's "low voice" and "hypophonia" but that only happened during the debate and it was obvious congestion. He didn't exhibit that during his NATO speech. Meanwhile, Dr. Cannard examined Biden and determined he does not have Parkinsons and that's reflected in the detailed report from his February physical.



He no doubt also visited during Trump's administration, but your wonderful Mr. Trump suppressed the visitor logs during his term and they are not public.

You know who was at the WH during the Obama administration? Joe Biden.

The White House Medical Unit sees hundreds of White House staff. It's not dedicated to the President or VP. Also, you can't explain away why the Bush Administration or Trump Administration had a Parkinsons doctor.

No, a specialist from walter reed visiting the WH would only be treating the president and family or the vp and family.

When did Bush and Trump have a parkinsons doc? Citation?

Dr. Cannard has served as White House Medical Unit neurologist from 2012 to the present.

https://www.doximity.com/pub/kevin-cannard-md

Neurology Consultant to the White House Medical Unit and the Physician to the President
The White House, 2012-2022

That includes Trump's Presidency.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a suspension that he had early-stage Parkinson's and it's gotten worse in the last year or so. This was known in Biden's inner circle, with rumors circulating outside of this circle. I also have a feeling that the Parkinson’s expert visiting the White House 8 times in 8 months is a cute way to hide the progression of Parkinson's. Did Biden consult with a Parkinson's physician? No. Did Biden's GP consult with this expert as a "go-between?" Probably.

This is fiction. There is literally no credible evidence of the above. The supposed "Parkinsons doctor" has been the neurology specialist for the White House Medical Unit going back to the Bush administration and made dozens and dozens of visits to the White House before Biden even got elected. By the faulty logic displayed here of "OHH A PARKINSONS DOCTOR VISITED" that means Trump has Parkinsons and so do Obama and Bush. See a problem there? And no, there's no "known in Biden's inner circle" - there's no credible evidence of it. Biden had a full physical in February including being examined by the Parkinsons doctor who concluded Biden DOES NOT HAVE Parkinsons and that is documented in a report and a statement.

I have never seen a credible source document that the parkinsons doc has visited the WH before. Do you have a source to link to?

have you watched this? This doctor specializes in parkinson’s patients and says he see patients everyday just like Joe Biden. NBC rolls tape of Biden doing everything this doctor says parkinson’s patients do as they progress. If you watched it you might change your mind. You aren’t even a little suspicious that a parkinsons doc has been visiting the WH and a parkinson’s doc says without doubt Joe has it? You think the doctor being interviewed is lying?

It's a matter of public record that Dr. Cannard was the White House Medical Unit's neurology specialist since the Bush Administration and the official White House visitor logs show that Cannard visited the Obama White House numerous times.

Also, it's highly unprofessional and a breach of ethics for a physician to give a diagnosis for a patient that he has never examined.

The movement issues are fully attributable to arthritis and neuropathy in his feet. Also, the doctor on the NBC clip cited Biden's "low voice" and "hypophonia" but that only happened during the debate and it was obvious congestion. He didn't exhibit that during his NATO speech. Meanwhile, Dr. Cannard examined Biden and determined he does not have Parkinsons and that's reflected in the detailed report from his February physical.



He no doubt also visited during Trump's administration, but your wonderful Mr. Trump suppressed the visitor logs during his term and they are not public.

You know who was at the WH during the Obama administration? Joe Biden.

The White House Medical Unit sees hundreds of White House staff. It's not dedicated to the President or VP. Also, you can't explain away why the Bush Administration or Trump Administration had a Parkinsons doctor.

No, a specialist from walter reed visiting the WH would only be treating the president and family or the vp and family.

When did Bush and Trump have a parkinsons doc? Citation?

Oh really? The White House Medical Unit *ONLY* sees the President and his family and the VP and his family?

Then according to that, the questionably dispensed drugs "handed out like candy" without prescriptions by former White House doctor Ronny "Candy Man" Jackson *ONLY* went to Trump and his family and the VP and his family.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/white-house-clinic-improperly-distributed-controlled-substances-previo-rcna135787

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ex-white-house-doctor-known-161212173.html

So are you absolutely sure the White House Medical Unit *ONLY* sees the President and his family, and the Vice President and his family? Because that makes the Trumps major druggies.

Or did you just make that up and in fact the WHMU sees other White House staffers as well? Do you want to change your story and admit you were wrong? Just as you've been wrong about so many other things too?

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Anonymous wrote:I have a suspension that he had early-stage Parkinson's and it's gotten worse in the last year or so. This was known in Biden's inner circle, with rumors circulating outside of this circle. I also have a feeling that the Parkinson’s expert visiting the White House 8 times in 8 months is a cute way to hide the progression of Parkinson's. Did Biden consult with a Parkinson's physician? No. Did Biden's GP consult with this expert as a "go-between?" Probably.

This is fiction. There is literally no credible evidence of the above. The supposed "Parkinsons doctor" has been the neurology specialist for the White House Medical Unit going back to the Bush administration and made dozens and dozens of visits to the White House before Biden even got elected. By the faulty logic displayed here of "OHH A PARKINSONS DOCTOR VISITED" that means Trump has Parkinsons and so do Obama and Bush. See a problem there? And no, there's no "known in Biden's inner circle" - there's no credible evidence of it. Biden had a full physical in February including being examined by the Parkinsons doctor who concluded Biden DOES NOT HAVE Parkinsons and that is documented in a report and a statement.

I have never seen a credible source document that the parkinsons doc has visited the WH before. Do you have a source to link to?

have you watched this? This doctor specializes in parkinson’s patients and says he see patients everyday just like Joe Biden. NBC rolls tape of Biden doing everything this doctor says parkinson’s patients do as they progress. If you watched it you might change your mind. You aren’t even a little suspicious that a parkinsons doc has been visiting the WH and a parkinson’s doc says without doubt Joe has it? You think the doctor being interviewed is lying?

It's a matter of public record that Dr. Cannard was the White House Medical Unit's neurology specialist since the Bush Administration and the official White House visitor logs show that Cannard visited the Obama White House numerous times.

Also, it's highly unprofessional and a breach of ethics for a physician to give a diagnosis for a patient that he has never examined.

The movement issues are fully attributable to arthritis and neuropathy in his feet. Also, the doctor on the NBC clip cited Biden's "low voice" and "hypophonia" but that only happened during the debate and it was obvious congestion. He didn't exhibit that during his NATO speech. Meanwhile, Dr. Cannard examined Biden and determined he does not have Parkinsons and that's reflected in the detailed report from his February physical.



He no doubt also visited during Trump's administration, but your wonderful Mr. Trump suppressed the visitor logs during his term and they are not public.

You know who was at the WH during the Obama administration? Joe Biden.

The White House Medical Unit sees hundreds of White House staff. It's not dedicated to the President or VP. Also, you can't explain away why the Bush Administration or Trump Administration had a Parkinsons doctor.

No, a specialist from walter reed visiting the WH would only be treating the president and family or the vp and family.

When did Bush and Trump have a parkinsons doc? Citation?

Dr. Cannard has served as White House Medical Unit neurologist from 2012 to the present.

https://www.doximity.com/pub/kevin-cannard-md

Neurology Consultant to the White House Medical Unit and the Physician to the President
The White House, 2012-2022

That includes Trump's Presidency.

The Trump administration had a Parkinsons doctor and therefore by the logic here that means Trump had Parkinsons.

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"It’s up to the president to decide if he is going to run. We’re all encouraging him to make that decision, because time is running short,"

Obviously he's already made that decision, or he would not have appeared on 50-whatever primary ballots. But I don't know that she's tossing him under the bus so much as hedging because no changes will be announced during the NATO summit or before the end of the Republican convention next week.

Nancy Pelosi could have kept her mouth shut. She could have refused interviews, especially one on live national television. She could have fully endorsed Joe Biden.

She did none of the above. She was not hedging bets. She was directly telling Biden, on his favorite news show, that he's a loser.

PP here. I didn’t say hedging her bets. I said hedging. As in, being indirect.

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Why should Biden need to drop out?

Back when covid was treated as a crisis, you had to get a vaccine with questionable performance to keep your job. Your medical record was everyone’s business.

But the health of your president is not any of your business.

Why? Because you are a barely tolerated plebe. Do what you are told. Don’t question fragile narratives. Do whatever your teevee tells you to do. An election is approaching so be ready for some ridiculous crisis that will require mail-in ballots.

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Anonymous wrote:Why should Biden need to drop out?

Back when covid was treated as a crisis, you had to get a vaccine with questionable performance to keep your job. Your medical record was everyone’s business.

But the health of your president is not any of your business.

Why? Because you are a barely tolerated plebe. Do what you are told. Don’t question fragile narratives. Do whatever your teevee tells you to do. An election is approaching so be ready for some ridiculous crisis that will require mail-in ballots.

Wow. Unhinged. Biden's physical is published online. Is yours? No.

Go to bed. You aren't making any sense.

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Anonymous wrote:George Clooney expressed beautifully what so many American citizens are thinking about President Biden. Democratic leaders need to pay heed; and MSNBC media types need to quit trying to prop up Biden by spreading lies, misinformation, and accusations when people rightly share their observations relevant to his obvious decline healthwise.

Biden is in trouble in large part because his agenda was influenced by people like . . . George Clooney. They should have listened to Ricky Gervais at the Oscars a few years ago.

Exactly. I met George some years ago. He’s incredibly sweet and accommodating, but a complete pushover. His radical attorney wife is most likely speaking for him.

The fundraiser that Clooney headlined in June 2024 raised $28 million for Biden's reelection campaign, the most for the Democratic Party from a single event in history.

So last month Clooney raised $28 million for Biden, but now he wants him to drop out?

Clooney didn’t see Biden’s health issues last month at the fundraiser? Oh, he did, but he didn’t care. Now Biden has been exposed as a senile, narcissistic, elderly man who can’t walk or talk, Clooney is trying to pretend he has morals and ethics. He was happy to raise $28 million for Biden last month!

People around Biden knew he was deteriorating. They were fine with it. The press covered for Biden and the dnc did as well.

Nah.
The LA event was literally right after his return from the G7. If you only see him once, it’s understandable that you would consider it a bad night.
That’s why the week after debate is so telling. If he had done a big press conference the next day, and taken questions and been ok, it could have been fine.
It’s not fine, because he’s not fine.
But this is the first time people outside of the immediate circle could compare his condition and not chalk it up to a one time issue.

I agree somewhat, but people see what they want to see. Biden has had many public flubs, pointed out by MAGA, which pushed us further into denial. Exactly like when we point out Trump's many faults, which pushes his supporters into denial. This partisanship is bad for everyone.

Yes, yes, Trump is worse because he's morally diseased. But Biden is the one showing his age more, and for voters that's something you don't come back from. Democrats WILL lose this election, and downballot, if he doesn't get out of the race. This is 100% certain.

At this point Trump has the Presidency nearly in the bag no matter who Democrats run, because of our collective blindness about Biden's decline and the entirely unethical decisions of his closest aides, wife and possibly son. They shoulder a lot of the blame, because they knew, and tried to hide the worst of it from the public. They need to be publicly excoriated for the damage they've perpetrated, in terms of lost trust.

The only thing Democrats can do now, to salvage what's left, is to run Kamala Harris. She can be consensus candidate and has a glimmer of a chance. No one else has at this point.

Biden isn’t showing his age. His brain cells are dying.

He is fine. Yes slower but he is fine. He is the only one that can beat Trump so everyone better hope he stays in.

You think he can beat Trump after watching that disastrous debate performance ? Trumps winning more ground in blue states now in the polls

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Anonymous wrote:I'm voting for Biden either way. If he does actually have an issue and wasn't just tired, Harris is completely qualified.

Trump has similar issues, plus lack of interest in democracy, so not voting for him no matter what.

How does Trump lack interest in democracy? He promotes the the peoples voice and the chaos of it all. His press conferences with the WH Press Corps and relationship with the press in general is one for the books. He didn’t ban reporters for 2 years from the White House like Biden did. He didn’t get a radio host fired for admitting questions were pre selected and rehearsed . His rallies in the heat of summer go on for hours and hours talking with random Americans across the country back in 2016 and now. He’s like a gladiator of democracy. The people’s champ, the people’s choice. I don’t mean this sarcastically either.

Hillary and Biden hid in their basements the entire time while the establishment coronated them not the people. What’s so democratic about the DNC?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

"It’s up to the president to decide if he is going to run. We’re all encouraging him to make that decision, because time is running short,"

Obviously he's already made that decision, or he would not have appeared on 50-whatever primary ballots. But I don't know that she's tossing him under the bus so much as hedging because no changes will be announced during the NATO summit or before the end of the Republican convention next week.

Nancy Pelosi could have kept her mouth shut. She could have refused interviews, especially one on live national television. She could have fully endorsed Joe Biden.

She did none of the above. She was not hedging bets. She was directly telling Biden, on his favorite news show, that he's a loser.

Pelosi had a family connection to Newsom at one point.

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Anonymous wrote:George Clooney expressed beautifully what so many American citizens are thinking about President Biden. Democratic leaders need to pay heed; and MSNBC media types need to quit trying to prop up Biden by spreading lies, misinformation, and accusations when people rightly share their observations relevant to his obvious decline healthwise.

Biden is in trouble in large part because his agenda was influenced by people like . . . George Clooney. They should have listened to Ricky Gervais at the Oscars a few years ago.

Exactly. I met George some years ago. He’s incredibly sweet and accommodating, but a complete pushover. His radical attorney wife is most likely speaking for him.

The fundraiser that Clooney headlined in June 2024 raised $28 million for Biden's reelection campaign, the most for the Democratic Party from a single event in history.

So last month Clooney raised $28 million for Biden, but now he wants him to drop out?

Clooney didn’t see Biden’s health issues last month at the fundraiser? Oh, he did, but he didn’t care. Now Biden has been exposed as a senile, narcissistic, elderly man who can’t walk or talk, Clooney is trying to pretend he has morals and ethics. He was happy to raise $28 million for Biden last month!

People around Biden knew he was deteriorating. They were fine with it. The press covered for Biden and the dnc did as well.

Nah.
The LA event was literally right after his return from the G7. If you only see him once, it’s understandable that you would consider it a bad night.
That’s why the week after debate is so telling. If he had done a big press conference the next day, and taken questions and been ok, it could have been fine.
It’s not fine, because he’s not fine.
But this is the first time people outside of the immediate circle could compare his condition and not chalk it up to a one time issue.

I agree somewhat, but people see what they want to see. Biden has had many public flubs, pointed out by MAGA, which pushed us further into denial. Exactly like when we point out Trump's many faults, which pushes his supporters into denial. This partisanship is bad for everyone.

Yes, yes, Trump is worse because he's morally diseased. But Biden is the one showing his age more, and for voters that's something you don't come back from. Democrats WILL lose this election, and downballot, if he doesn't get out of the race. This is 100% certain.

At this point Trump has the Presidency nearly in the bag no matter who Democrats run, because of our collective blindness about Biden's decline and the entirely unethical decisions of his closest aides, wife and possibly son. They shoulder a lot of the blame, because they knew, and tried to hide the worst of it from the public. They need to be publicly excoriated for the damage they've perpetrated, in terms of lost trust.

The only thing Democrats can do now, to salvage what's left, is to run Kamala Harris. She can be consensus candidate and has a glimmer of a chance. No one else has at this point.

Biden isn’t showing his age. His brain cells are dying.

He is fine. Yes slower but he is fine. He is the only one that can beat Trump so everyone better hope he stays in.

You think he can beat Trump after watching that disastrous debate performance ? Trumps winning more ground in blue states now in the polls

I think what happens is that some posters stopped watching the debate after 5-10 minutes, it was too painful. They don't realize how bad it was, and how the whole world (but them) watched it.

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All the candidates I can think of were all duped into believing Joe was cogent for years.

Trump is the only one with the common sense to identity the huge issue which is why we need him as President. I get that many people hate the truth that Trump constantly speaks on just about every issue but that’s just because they have some anti-American or twisted agenda.

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Anonymous wrote:All the candidates I can think of were all duped into believing Joe was cogent for years.

Trump is the only one with the common sense to identity the huge issue which is why we need him as President. I get that many people hate the truth that Trump constantly speaks on just about every issue but that’s just because they have some anti-American or twisted agenda.

+1

It really makes you think, doesn’t it? The one guy who said Biden wasn’t capable, was changed with many crimes.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm voting for Biden either way. If he does actually have an issue and wasn't just tired, Harris is completely qualified.

Trump has similar issues, plus lack of interest in democracy, so not voting for him no matter what.

How does Trump lack interest in democracy? He promotes the the peoples voice and the chaos of it all. His press conferences with the WH Press Corps and relationship with the press in general is one for the books. He didn’t ban reporters for 2 years from the White House like Biden did. He didn’t get a radio host fired for admitting questions were pre selected and rehearsed . His rallies in the heat of summer go on for hours and hours talking with random Americans across the country back in 2016 and now. He’s like a gladiator of democracy. The people’s champ, the people’s choice. I don’t mean this sarcastically either.

Hillary and Biden hid in their basements the entire time while the establishment coronated them not the people. What’s so democratic about the DNC?

Trump had dozens of reporters banned from the White House.
https://www.cjr.org/the_media_today/white-house-press-passes.php
The reason you think is Trump is good, is because you don’t know anything. You are literally an ignorant idiot.
I’m embarrassed there are so many people like you in this country. We’ve fallen so far.

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Anonymous wrote:All the candidates I can think of were all duped into believing Joe was cogent for years.

Trump is the only one with the common sense to identity the huge issue which is why we need him as President. I get that many people hate the truth that Trump constantly speaks on just about every issue but that’s just because they have some anti-American or twisted agenda.

+1

It really makes you think, doesn’t it? The one guy who said Biden wasn’t capable, was changed with many crimes.

Indeed.

The mystery is why Biden and his campaign agreed to a debate in June. Given what we saw he should have spent the last four months in a basement of the WH.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm voting for Biden either way. If he does actually have an issue and wasn't just tired, Harris is completely qualified.

Trump has similar issues, plus lack of interest in democracy, so not voting for him no matter what.

How does Trump lack interest in democracy? He promotes the the peoples voice and the chaos of it all. His press conferences with the WH Press Corps and relationship with the press in general is one for the books. He didn’t ban reporters for 2 years from the White House like Biden did. He didn’t get a radio host fired for admitting questions were pre selected and rehearsed . His rallies in the heat of summer go on for hours and hours talking with random Americans across the country back in 2016 and now. He’s like a gladiator of democracy. The people’s champ, the people’s choice. I don’t mean this sarcastically either.

Hillary and Biden hid in their basements the entire time while the establishment coronated them not the people. What’s so democratic about the DNC?

Trump had dozens of reporters banned from the White House.
https://www.cjr.org/the_media_today/white-house-press-passes.php
The reason you think is Trump is good, is because you don’t know anything. You are literally an ignorant idiot.
I’m embarrassed there are so many people like you in this country. We’ve fallen so far.

This is why the Trump administration banned reporters.

Anybody see the current press corp questioning Joe Biden lately in a press conference?