Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Laundrie’s parents should be people of interest. At the very least they obfuscating things. They also have motive: they wanted their son and his girlfriend to stop mooching off them. Maybe they couldn’t handle the two of them with their mental health issues. At the very least they need to prove Brian was in FL.

Didn’t the police speak with him in FL or serve him papers? At the very least his own attorney must of spoken with him.

No one can verify his whereabouts since September 1 except his lying family. We don’t even know if he drove the van back

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Laundrie’s parents should be people of interest. At the very least they obfuscating things. They also have motive: they wanted their son and his girlfriend to stop mooching off them. Maybe they couldn’t handle the two of them with their mental health issues. At the very least they need to prove Brian was in FL.

Didn’t the police speak with him in FL or serve him papers? At the very least his own attorney must of spoken with him.

No one can verify his whereabouts since September 1 except his lying family. We don’t even know if he drove the van back

This is true. But if one of them flew out or drove out to retrieve the van, there would be some trail of that. I think he drove it back, but who knows after that. Have the police reported if Gabby and Brian were using cash for exoenses? Or credit? Someone had to keep gassing up the van to get it back across country.

[Anonymous]

Detailed timeline

We’re Gabby’s parents not worried in the two weeks before they reported her missing? Last FaceTime was august 25. There was a text august 30 her mom said didn’t sound like her

https://www.reddit.com/r/GabbyPetito/comments/pqvm55/timeline_of_events/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Laundrie’s parents should be people of interest. At the very least they obfuscating things. They also have motive: they wanted their son and his girlfriend to stop mooching off them. Maybe they couldn’t handle the two of them with their mental health issues. At the very least they need to prove Brian was in FL.

Didn’t the police speak with him in FL or serve him papers? At the very least his own attorney must of spoken with him.

No one can verify his whereabouts since September 1 except his lying family. We don’t even know if he drove the van back

This is true. But if one of them flew out or drove out to retrieve the van, there would be some trail of that. I think he drove it back, but who knows after that. Have the police reported if Gabby and Brian were using cash for exoenses? Or credit? Someone had to keep gassing up the van to get it back across country.

I believe her or someone used her credit card in IL
Once for gas but beyond that I’m not sure of card use

[Anonymous]

I just went on Reddit because of the comment upthread. Evidently, there were multiple verified sightings of the van parked on the side of a dirt road in the Spread Creek area.

Law enforcement is getting ready to search/is searching the area. They are in the process of closing it to hikers/campers etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So tired of this story. Another "poor innocent white girl goes missing" story. It's not a mystery - let's move on.

I understand where you’re coming from. There’s so many other missing women, black women, Hispanic women, any other race. As always, the young pretty white girl gets all the media attention. Sadly this poor girl is probably dead but if I was her family I would also want her case being in the media and people wanting to find her so while it’s not fair I don’t think we should dump on this poor girl.

[Anonymous]

At what point is his family guilty of obstruction/impeding an investigation? Can anyone with an actual legal backaground explain (not guess)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So tired of this story. Another "poor innocent white girl goes missing" story. It's not a mystery - let's move on.

I understand where you’re coming from. There’s so many other missing women, black women, Hispanic women, any other race. As always, the young pretty white girl gets all the media attention. Sadly this poor girl is probably dead but if I was her family I would also want her case being in the media and people wanting to find her so while it’s not fair I don’t think we should dump on this poor girl.

I will never understand being tired of a story. Close your eyes. Turn off your computer. Touch grass. It couldn't be easier to avoid anything you're tired of.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At what point is his family guilty of obstruction/impeding an investigation? Can anyone with an actual legal backaground explain (not guess)?

It seems important that he is a person of interest and not a suspect- I think there’d be more of an issue if he were the latter

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s nearly a certainty that Brian had something to do with the murdered married couple and that was a reason she was upset. That area is insanely sparsely populated, just north of Moab is Green River, a town of less than a thousand people. Moab itself has less than six thousand. Green River is on Interstate 70, the nearest towns on Interstate 70 going west are Salina, Utah, less than 3,000 people, and Richfield, Utah, 8,000 people. It is over 100 miles from Green River to Salina. There are zero, zilch, zip services of any kind on that over 100 mile stretch from Salina to Green River on Interstate 70. It stays sparsely populated until Grand Junction, Colorado going east from Green River with only a few services along that part of the route, none from Green River until Thompson Springs, and none after that until Cisco.

The odds that these two parties did not meet, sharing the same at least partially nomadic lifestyle in such a sparsely populated area when there are timelines and photographs that do place them at the same locations at or near the same time, and that Brian Landrie isn’t the creep the couple were referring to and upset by and who murdered them, are infinitesimal.

The authorities came out with a definitive statement that the cases are not related

I am curious how they can state that when so much is still unknown

They also said on Thursday they knew exactly where Brian was, so what they think they know and what they know are two different things. That said, I don’t think he is responsible for the Moab murders.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Haven't fact checked this update: BL parents contacted NP police to tell them his last known location, and that they drove his Mustang home from said location.

Parents must have planned his escape. Told lawyer on Friday to inform NP police that son hadn't been seen since Tuesday. He left with backpack to hike at Myakkahatchee Creek. Allegedly, they went back today, found his car and drove it home??? This is some kind of crazy.

Thread has derailed. Since posting above, there's much to report. Video of van in Spread Creek area before BL allegedly drove back to FL. It was submitted to FBI and posted to YT. Area is closed off and search is underway. Reddit link at very end.

Spread Creek Dispersed camping ground August 27 6-6:30pm
Video was uploaded about 11:20pm PDT by YouTube channel Red White & Bethune

"YouTube description states: We were editing our Saturday video tonight and we were looking at footage from on August 27th, 2021 around 6:00pm to 6:30pm in Spread Creek Dispersed Camping. We had passed by a white van with Florida plates. We noticed it because we are originally from Florida and wanted to stop and say hi. When we passed the van, all the lights were off and it didn’t look like anyone was there. We ended up leaving because we couldn’t find a spot."

[YouTube Video of Van] (https://youtu.be/PBp3aNAGuFM)


Multiple people allegedly engaged with BL between 8/27-8/29.
"This gives credence to this guy's analysis who is familiar with the area." https://youtu.be/IkiC_2wc2qg

[/u]Couple picked up hitchhiker

"Couple picked up hitchhiker alleged to be BL. They noted he looked showered even though he said he'd been camping, apparently with no gear for the last couple days. He said there were showers nearby. He could've showered and thrown away evidence before walking back when they picked him up. They took another route south, he freaked out for some reason and got out near the dam."

Another woman notified FBI "She was trying to find a camping spot in the Spread Creek area, and swears she was driving behind Gabby’s van. Brian was driving and drove a bit erratically, and stopped on the side of the road."

Retired Louisiana LEO had a conversation with a man presumed to be BL at Bullwinkles bar.

[u]Hunters spotted van conspicuously parked in Spread Creek area.

"Alleged sighting at an Illinois gas station where he was mad yelling and throwing things away from inside the van."

No confirmed sightings in FL.

Reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/GabbyPetito/comments/pr2xs6/the_van_is_seen_in_this_youtube_video_on_august/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

I think the video with the van has merit but the other sightings I question. This article shows how easily some guy was mistaken for BL so Without some kind of video footage I think those sightings are all kind of iffy

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10005181/Man-looks-identical-boyfriend-missing-Gabby-Petito-photographed-onlooker.html

There are a lot of guys that have that look! I don't think it's the boyfriend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Detailed timeline

We’re Gabby’s parents not worried in the two weeks before they reported her missing? Last FaceTime was august 25. There was a text august 30 her mom said didn’t sound like her

https://www.reddit.com/r/GabbyPetito/comments/pqvm55/timeline_of_events/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

This is a post on that link, which is interesting. I know there has been talk on this thread about how the lawyer is not a criminal defense attorney.

"I’m a lawyer. Language is very important and how it is used speaks volumes. BL’s lawyer’s statement is a huge tell.

BL’s lawyer wrote, “in cases like this.” He’s essentially admitting that “this” is a “case.” He could have said something like “there is no evidence that any crime has been committed. There is no evidence that Ms. Petito is in any danger. Free adults are allowed to go off the grid and travel independently. My client wishes her well, but has nothing to add.” Instead, the lawyer immediately characterizes the situation as a “case.” Incredibly sloppy and showing his hand.

BL’s lawyer wrote “intimate partners are the first person law enforcement focuses attention on.” That’s true specifically in situations where a partner has gone mysteriously missing or is killed. This reiterates the first point—the lawyer is all but admitting that something bad happened to Gabby. (Furthermore, we can eliminate that her disappearance is a mystery to BL because BL, the man who was going to vow to love her forever, is not concerned with finding her.)

The lawyer wrote, “regardless of whether my client had anything to [sic] with Ms. Petito’s disappearance.” This is so sloppily written—it suggests that he did, in fact, have something to do with it. As a lawyer, you don’t want to write anything that gets people thinking that your client did it if you could at all avoid doing so. You don’t really want to put those words in the same sentence. BL’s lawyer could have said, “even though Mr. Laundrie has committed no crime.”

Think about the difference in saying “regardless if OJ did it” vs “even though OJ didn’t do it.” One suggests OJ did it, and the other suggests he did not do it. May seem like a small thing, but to a person who’s career is communicating, spinning, and persuading, there is a big difference."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At what point is his family guilty of obstruction/impeding an investigation? Can anyone with an actual legal backaground explain (not guess)?

It seems important that he is a person of interest and not a suspect- I think there’d be more of an issue if he were the latter

But now that he is missing aren’t they obstructing/impeding his case by withholding what they know? Also, unless they were traveling with piles of cash, aren’t they gassing up with a credit card each time? And don’t most gas stations have cameras? I think authorities know a lot more than they are letting on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s nearly a certainty that Brian had something to do with the murdered married couple and that was a reason she was upset. That area is insanely sparsely populated, just north of Moab is Green River, a town of less than a thousand people. Moab itself has less than six thousand. Green River is on Interstate 70, the nearest towns on Interstate 70 going west are Salina, Utah, less than 3,000 people, and Richfield, Utah, 8,000 people. It is over 100 miles from Green River to Salina. There are zero, zilch, zip services of any kind on that over 100 mile stretch from Salina to Green River on Interstate 70. It stays sparsely populated until Grand Junction, Colorado going east from Green River with only a few services along that part of the route, none from Green River until Thompson Springs, and none after that until Cisco.

The odds that these two parties did not meet, sharing the same at least partially nomadic lifestyle in such a sparsely populated area when there are timelines and photographs that do place them at the same locations at or near the same time, and that Brian Landrie isn’t the creep the couple were referring to and upset by and who murdered them, are infinitesimal.

The authorities came out with a definitive statement that the cases are not related

But don’t you agree, -the mere fact that he is a man makes him a prime suspect in those murders too?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So tired of this story. Another "poor innocent white girl goes missing" story. It's not a mystery - let's move on.

I understand where you’re coming from. There’s so many other missing women, black women, Hispanic women, any other race. As always, the young pretty white girl gets all the media attention. Sadly this poor girl is probably dead but if I was her family I would also want her case being in the media and people wanting to find her so while it’s not fair I don’t think we should dump on this poor girl.

Here is one:

An arrest has finally been made in the brutal 2012 murder of Faith Hedgepeth a Native American college coed at UNC:


https://www.wbtv.com/2021/09/16/man-charged-2012-murder-unc-student-faith-hedgepeth/