When are Herndon Middle and Herndon High going to get a break?!??

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Anonymous wrote:Most people don’t care how poor or rich are the kids sitting next to their kid, nor what race they are, but people do care very much about the quality of education their kids are receiving. If you try to put my kid in a bad school, I’ll switch him to private school and will vote “no” on every school bond vote to come, since you literally forced my hand. How would that help a school with poor performance? If you are so interested in improving a school by rezoning other people’s kids, put your own kid in a bad school and then discuss how the quality of his education is unchanged.

Then you will pay for private while subsidizing the public education of children other than your own, and the bond referenda will still pass.

And if too many of the parents of the children with the high scores simply pull them out of public school and put them elsewhere, scores go down.

So the county would get the taxes but not the children that help scores. FARMs percentage would substantially increase.

People have gotten tired of the obnoxious, entitled Langley families constantly claiming that, if they don’t get their way, they will take all their marbles and go home. Time to call their bluff. Let them move to Ashburn if they can’t handle being part of the same county as Herndon.

Entitled because we like our school and want our children to attend with their community?

Entitled because we dare to express an opinion about policies?

Ashburn is a lovely area but I prefer Great Falls. If I wanted to live in Ashburn, I would.

We have no problem being in the same county as Herndon.

It seems like you want us to BE Herndon, and not because you think Herndon is great and you want to spread the joy.

You think Herndon bites and you want us to feel the pain.

Your “community” is mostly a string of subdivisions that attend middle and high schools in McLean, not Great Falls.

When you get reassigned to schools in Herndon, rather than McLean, the world will not come to an end.

So you don't deny that you think Herndon sucks.

We do agree on that last point.

The world would not come to an end with a boundary change.

Though you won't get what you seem to want out of it.

Why are you surprised when people don’t respond to your bait? The burden isn’t on Herndon residents to respond to Great Falls residents claiming that Herndon “sucks.” The burden is in Great Falls residents to explain why they think it’s OK to take advantage of county resources when it suits them, yet also pretend to be an autonomous community to avoid an equitable share of the county’s students with greater educational needs.

Langley needs a makeover.

We wouldn't think anything of Herndon at all if sone parents there weren't constantly complaining about it.

We only know it sucks because you won't shut up about how bad it is .

You don't see McLean wanting to change boundaries for anything other than capacity concerns. Parents love McLean.

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People have gotten tired of the obnoxious, entitled Langley families constantly claiming that, if they don’t get their way, they will take all their marbles and go home. Time to call their bluff. Let them move to Ashburn if they can’t handle being part of the same county as Herndon.

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What do you think happened in Herndon? MC and UMC families who were unhappy with the schools for whatever reason moved, went private, or started homeschooling.

I know a woman who loves her neighbors. She lives in one of those areas with beautiful, well-maintained homes with mature trees and nice landscaping. She decided against Herndon schools but didn't want to move, so they stayed put and opted out.

I met a GF resident who is now an obnoxious Langley parent after leaving Herndon (where she was holy I am sure) due to the schools.

Herndon has at least one homeschool group. I guess they are obnoxious and entitled because they refuse to send their children to public school in Herndon. They live in Herndon, so maybe that saves them.

Herndon parents opted out if they decided the school wouldn't work for their children.

Why shouldn't we follow their example?

No one wants to talk about all the "obnoxious, entitled" Herndon parents who actually DID "take all their marbles and go home?"

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Please. Everyone wants what is best for their kids. Herndon mom wants to kick out poor kids from Herndon in order to make things "better" for her kid. Great Falls families are happy with Langley and wish to stay there. Unfortunately, for Herndon mom, sending Great Falls to Herndon is not practical because Langley is underenrolled. I don't understand why School Board has not sent McLean kids to Langley and can only assume it has something to do with politics and OneFairfax. This leads everyone to speculate all different scenarios that the SB might create. The video with Strauss and Hynes certainly adds fuel to the fire. People want to know just what OneFairfax means for their own schools.

I am a Herndon/Oak Hill parent who is not affected by this, but I can see that there is no easy solution. My neighborhood may, or may not be, affected by a new high school. But, I can see that if it is, it is many years out and will not affect my family. I strongly believe in schools that have community connections and understand that the Great Falls families feel that connection to Langley. I know many people out here that feel a very strong connection to Oakton, even though they live miles and miles away. Others feel a strong attachment to Chantilly and some now feel one to South Lakes and a handful are still connected to Westfield. Change is difficult and most people do not want to leave their current high school. That is understandable.

I do not condemn Great Falls people resenting that Herndon mom and, possibly, the School Board are discussing making them pawns in order to achieve "equity." We all know that many people purchase houses with the schools in mind. Who would fault that? You get a lot more house for your money in a neighborhood with lower rated schools. That is just a fact. But, the people don't purchase the house for that reason, they purchase them so their kids can go to a certain school. The School Board knows that, as does the Board of Supervisors. This is true everywhere. When I was a child in another state, my dad was a realtor. He taught me to buy the worst house with good schools over the best house with poor schools. Sorry. That is the way it works.

And, after the kids are graduated, it is not unreasonable for people facing retirement to be upset if, for no reason other than "equity," their neighborhood is redistricted. I think people easily accept logic--a school is overcrowded, etc. But, to move kids just because the SB doesn't like the demographics is a poor reason. Langley is underenrolled. There is no logical solution for new kids to go there except for kids from McLean who do not fit the low FARMS that the SB would like. There are many schools in FCPS with higher FARMs than Herndon, yet the push from some to mess with Langley makes it egregious to those of us who follow this agenda.

So, I don't blame Great Falls parents for being upset. I also don't blame Herndon mom--but, she needs to realize that her solutions are not practical. I know people in Herndon who have been quite happy with Herndon schools. Herndon mom is doing the schools no favor by her constant complaints. From what I hear. Herndon offers plenty for their high achievers as well as help for the new immigrants. She needs to change her attitude or move. She is not helping her kid by being so upseet over his/her classmates. There are plenty of middle class kids in Herndon, as welll as FARMS.

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The world would not come to an end with a boundary change.

If it affected you, you'd be screaming your head off and demanding that it be stopped immediately.

A boundary change would affect me.

It just wouldn't end my world.

If you took a huge hit to your home value, you'd be screaming like it was the end of your world.

Don't even bother pretending it wouldn't.

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Anonymous wrote:Please. Everyone wants what is best for their kids. Herndon mom wants to kick out poor kids from Herndon in order to make things "better" for her kid. Great Falls families are happy with Langley and wish to stay there. Unfortunately, for Herndon mom, sending Great Falls to Herndon is not practical because Langley is underenrolled. I don't understand why School Board has not sent McLean kids to Langley and can only assume it has something to do with politics and OneFairfax. This leads everyone to speculate all different scenarios that the SB might create. The video with Strauss and Hynes certainly adds fuel to the fire. People want to know just what OneFairfax means for their own schools.

I am a Herndon/Oak Hill parent who is not affected by this, but I can see that there is no easy solution. My neighborhood may, or may not be, affected by a new high school. But, I can see that if it is, it is many years out and will not affect my family. I strongly believe in schools that have community connections and understand that the Great Falls families feel that connection to Langley. I know many people out here that feel a very strong connection to Oakton, even though they live miles and miles away. Others feel a strong attachment to Chantilly and some now feel one to South Lakes and a handful are still connected to Westfield. Change is difficult and most people do not want to leave their current high school. That is understandable.

I do not condemn Great Falls people resenting that Herndon mom and, possibly, the School Board are discussing making them pawns in order to achieve "equity." We all know that many people purchase houses with the schools in mind. Who would fault that? You get a lot more house for your money in a neighborhood with lower rated schools. That is just a fact. But, the people don't purchase the house for that reason, they purchase them so their kids can go to a certain school. The School Board knows that, as does the Board of Supervisors. This is true everywhere. When I was a child in another state, my dad was a realtor. He taught me to buy the worst house with good schools over the best house with poor schools. Sorry. That is the way it works.

And, after the kids are graduated, it is not unreasonable for people facing retirement to be upset if, for no reason other than "equity," their neighborhood is redistricted. I think people easily accept logic--a school is overcrowded, etc. But, to move kids just because the SB doesn't like the demographics is a poor reason. Langley is underenrolled. There is no logical solution for new kids to go there except for kids from McLean who do not fit the low FARMS that the SB would like. There are many schools in FCPS with higher FARMs than Herndon, yet the push from some to mess with Langley makes it egregious to those of us who follow this agenda.

So, I don't blame Great Falls parents for being upset. I also don't blame Herndon mom--but, she needs to realize that her solutions are not practical. I know people in Herndon who have been quite happy with Herndon schools. Herndon mom is doing the schools no favor by her constant complaints. From what I hear. Herndon offers plenty for their high achievers as well as help for the new immigrants. She needs to change her attitude or move. She is not helping her kid by being so upseet over his/her classmates. There are plenty of middle class kids in Herndon, as welll as FARMS.

Very thoughtful post.

There are neighborhoods that feed into McLean that have more diversity than Langley, though less than Herndon. It will be interesting to see if the Langley parents insist on only the closest McLean neighborhoods getting moved to Langley. Those neighborhoods are actually a good bit more expensive than some parts of Great Falls.

It does seem to me that the sense of community in a big place like Fairfax stems from the schools, not the other way around. I doubt the people who lived in the Forestville area felt any less of a sense of community back when they used to attend Herndon in the 80s. But there really isn’t room at Herndon now for more kids, unless the next School Board completely reshuffles the boundaries, so maybe it’s a moot point.

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Oh McLean neighborhoods will have strong opinions about new boundary proposals.

Langley doesn't get first say about that.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh McLean neighborhoods will have strong opinions about new boundary proposals.

Langley doesn't get first say about that.

So, McLean will be the new Langley?

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Anonymous wrote:Oh McLean neighborhoods will have strong opinions about new boundary proposals.

Langley doesn't get first say about that.

So, McLean will be the new Langley?

Could be.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh McLean neighborhoods will have strong opinions about new boundary proposals.

Langley doesn't get first say about that.

So, McLean will be the new Langley?

Could be.

That is not going to happen, at least through a boundary change that just involves those two schools.

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People have gotten tired of the obnoxious, entitled Langley families constantly claiming that, if they don’t get their way, they will take all their marbles and go home. Time to call their bluff. Let them move to Ashburn if they can’t handle being part of the same county as Herndon.

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What do you think happened in Herndon? MC and UMC families who were unhappy with the schools for whatever reason moved, went private, or started homeschooling.

I know a woman who loves her neighbors. She lives in one of those areas with beautiful, well-maintained homes with mature trees and nice landscaping. She decided against Herndon schools but didn't want to move, so they stayed put and opted out.

I met a GF resident who is now an obnoxious Langley parent after leaving Herndon (where she was holy I am sure) due to the schools.

Herndon has at least one homeschool group. I guess they are obnoxious and entitled because they refuse to send their children to public school in Herndon. They live in Herndon, so maybe that saves them.

Herndon parents opted out if they decided the school wouldn't work for their children.

Why shouldn't we follow their example?

No one wants to talk about all the "obnoxious, entitled" Herndon parents who actually DID "take all their marbles and go home?"

No. They want to continue to blame Langley and Great Falls as if we plotted the downfall of Herndon schools.

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The Langley parents are nailing down their reputations as bullies in this thread. Wow.

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Anonymous wrote:The Langley parents are nailing down their reputations as bullies in this thread. Wow.

How so?

By asking how we are to blame that Herndon parents don't like their high school?

And if we have had a reputation of being bullies. EXACTLY what have we done in past years to harm Herndon parents?

Did we push you down on the playground or something?

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Anonymous wrote:The Langley parents are nailing down their reputations as bullies in this thread. Wow.

X1,000

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There is so much worry and fighting and really nothing material is going to happen until a new high school is built. People need to chill out and save their outrage for something else. I keep seeing dramatic threads on DCUM on this whole Herndon, Langley, One Fairfax drama, but really nothing is going to happen for like...15-18 years? So, well after kids who are learning how to poop and pee in the potty will be in high school? Possibly after a baby who is currently crowning in INOVA fairfax?

Let's give it a rest and complain about something else. ANYTHING.

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Anonymous wrote:There is so much worry and fighting and really nothing material is going to happen until a new high school is built. People need to chill out and save their outrage for something else. I keep seeing dramatic threads on DCUM on this whole Herndon, Langley, One Fairfax drama, but really nothing is going to happen for like...15-18 years? So, well after kids who are learning how to poop and pee in the potty will be in high school? Possibly after a baby who is currently crowning in INOVA fairfax?

Let's give it a rest and complain about something else. ANYTHING.

I don't think GF is worried.

We are sick of being blamed.